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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 02:40 PM
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I went in for an oil change; however, only 2000 km had gone by so my mechanic said there was no need to change the filter. He put in around 9.2 liters which is what I usually put in when changing the filter as well. I got home (100 km drive) and checked the oil after 20 minutes. The oil totally covered the second red plastic piece. I figure half a liter to a liter too much. I am so pissed and terrified that perhaps I caused damage to the engine. He told me to drive back and he'll take out the extra oil. My reply was "no way." Could this extra oil have caused damage? I drove normally; not spirited.
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 03:07 PM
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Nah you're fine. I overfilled by well north of 1L by mistake once, and was fine. I usually make sure the oil covers that second mark also. And I only change my filter about every other time as I put maybe 2-3k miles on each oil before changing.
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 03:35 PM
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Second that. Ur fine.
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 03:39 PM
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Second that. Ur fine.
I've read so many "stories" on oil expansion and the rods dipping into the oil in the sump or the crank going "bad." I am no mechanic and I am slightly pessimistic so I tend to believe everything I read. I did notice my oil temp was really fluctuating though. 78 to 83 and then back. Sucks
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by shamrode
I've read so many "stories" on oil expansion and the rods dipping into the oil in the sump or the crank going "bad." I am no mechanic and I am slightly pessimistic so I tend to believe everything I read. I did notice my oil temp was really fluctuating though. 78 to 83 and then back. Sucks
You're fine. The only way you can cause damage to your motor from overfilling is by taking it to the track immediately after overfilling your oil. Driving it home from an oil change will not damage your motor.
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 03:46 PM
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You're fine. The only way you can cause damage to your motor from overfilling is by taking it to the track immediately after overfilling your oil. Driving it home from an oil change will not damage your motor.
Is it technically possible to get out the oil through the dipstick hole. Can it be siphoned with only a tube and sucking on the end?
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 03:49 PM
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Is it technically possible to get out the oil through the dipstick hole. Can it be siphoned with only a tube and sucking on the end?
Yes, you can siphon it out via the dipstick hole. It'll be a lot easier if you have a mityvac or other suction type evacuators. For ****s and giggles, you can make a video of yourself sucking the oil out with a straw. lolz
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 03:50 PM
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I use this evacuator for my oil changes.
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 03:53 PM
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LOL....would be funny

I can't just get one here where the car is. : (
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you should be alright although i will siphon it as soon as possible.

also, i dont see the point of changing oil when you dont change your filter. not only its cheap, but it negates the point of changing your oil. its ok if youre just toppin up but to change the oil and leave the old filter? like flushing money down the toilet.

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you should be alright although i will siphon it as soon as possible.

also, i dont see the point of changing oil when you dont change your filter. not only its cheap, but it negates the point of changing your oil.
I believe that I changed the oil because it degrades and loses essential components. This doesnt happen to the filter.
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by shamrode
I believe that I changed the oil because it degrades and loses essential components. This doesnt happen to the filter.
mate even my 7 year old nephew knows that the filter doesnt degrade like the oil. thing is...its like running your fresh fluids to a dirty filter. youre just contaminating your new oil.

do you wash your feet and then put your dirty socks back on?

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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 05:02 PM
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I put in 8.5L the first time because the conversion was like 1L to 1.057qt, which looks almost equivalent until you multiply it by 8.5 and instead of 8.5qt, I had about 8.9qt. and that was without dumping the cooler. drove cross country just fine like that.
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 05:04 PM
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Lol OCD much.

The filter is a cartridge not a container type, most its going to soak up is 50ml.

If he didn't drain the oil cooler, that would add about 300ml.
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 05:10 PM
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Lol OCD much.

The filter is a cartridge not a container type, most its going to soak up is 50ml.

If he didn't drain the oil cooler, that would add about 300ml.
I didnt get what you said. Over my head.
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by shamrode
I didnt get what you said. Over my head.
A used oil filter doesn't hold enough oil to "contaminate" the other 10L of fresh oil. And a 3k old filter doesn't really filter any measurable amount less well than a new filter.
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by shamrode
I went in for an oil change; however, only 2000 km had gone by so my mechanic said there was no need to change the filter. He put in around 9.2 liters which is what I usually put in when changing the filter as well. I got home (100 km drive) and checked the oil after 20 minutes. The oil totally covered the second red plastic piece. I figure half a liter to a liter too much. I am so pissed and terrified that perhaps I caused damage to the engine. He told me to drive back and he'll take out the extra oil. My reply was "no way." Could this extra oil have caused damage? I drove normally; not spirited.
Your tech put in exactly the desired amount of oil IMO. And before you do another short OCI you might check this out and make up your own mind. (I've seen other tests that corroborate these conclusions).

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=136238
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 05:53 PM
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its not like it takes an extra $100 and an extra hour to change the filter. how much is 10L of oil and how much is an oil filter? ill just keep shaking my head.

let me guess, you vacuum your floor without taking off the mat do ya?
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 05:54 PM
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Your tech put in exactly the desired amount of oil IMO. And before you do another short OCI you might check this out and make up your own mind. (I've seen other tests that corroborate these conclusions).

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=136238
How is your post related?
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by beejAMG
its not like it takes an extra $100 and an extra hour to change the filter. how much is 10L of oil and how much is an oil filter? ill just keep shaking my head.

let me guess, you vacuum your floor without taking off the mat do ya?
I do that all the time, lol! But I personally do change my oil filter with each oil change.
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I don't know about you, but I never did an oil change in my life without replacing the oil filter. Sounds weird a mechanic would say that.
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^ The rule of thumb is that it takes up to 3k miles to fully activate the anti-wear additives in motor oil. Consequently engine wear is highest immediately following an oil change and declines as a function of heat and pressure. You may want to reconsider the wisdom of short OCI's.
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by m a x i m u s
I do that all the time, lol! But I personally do change my oil filter with each oil change.
yeah alright...im guilty of that from time to time...lol

but the oil changing and leaving the old filter....yep, the thread title says it all.
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Originally Posted by beejAMG
yeah alright...im guilty of that from time to time...lol

but the oil changing and leaving the old filter....yep, the thread title says it all.
Why are you passing judgement if the OP likes to put on used his underwear after a shower?
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Why are you passing judgement if the OP likes to put on used his underwear after a shower?
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