Takada airbag recall
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"The issue involves defective inflator and propellant devices that may deploy improperly in the event of a crash, shooting metal fragments into vehicle occupants."
http://blog.caranddriver.com/massive...cted-vehicles/
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Originally Posted by Jasonoff
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Thus far in the recall, a limited number of images of actual injuries has emerged.
But on Capitol Hill today, at the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation, Senators saw a photo of what can happen when a Takata airbag's inflator shatters, sending shrapnel into the face, neck, and torsos of vehicle occupants.
Appearing as a witness, Stephanie Erdman testified about her 2013 accident in a 2002 Honda Civic in Florida. She was driving, and when the crash occurred — described in her testimony as a "moderate frontal impact" — her airbag deployed, the inflator casing fragmented, and a piece of shrapnel was embedded in her nose, puncturing her right sinus near her right eye.
An EMT took this photo as she was being removed from the scene of the accident and taken to the hospital:
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Holy **** that's a huge piece of metal. Calling it "shrapnel" doesn't cover that at all.
****ing criminal decision-makers at Takada whose cost cutting caused this, should all be put in jail.
****ing criminal decision-makers at Takada whose cost cutting caused this, should all be put in jail.
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Huh? Where does it say chapter 7 in that link?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...n-as-next-week
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Originally Posted by bloomberg
The supplier is expected to seek protection in its home country first, with its U.S. subsidiary filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy shortly thereafter, according to a person familiar with the matter, who asked not to identified because the matter isn’t public and the timing could change. Trading on Takata shares were suspended by Tokyo Stock Exchange from 8:20 a.m. to confirm the authenticity of media reports, the exchange said on its website.
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I think what he is referring to there is that IF IT WAS chapter 7, Takada would be done, and it's physical assets etc would be sold off. Chapter 11 allows a company time to restructure, work out deals with creditors etc and carry on. So he's pointing out that while they may be in the hurt locker, they aren't necessarily going out of business.
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I think what he is referring to there is that IF IT WAS chapter 7, Takada would be done, and it's physical assets etc would be sold off. Chapter 11 allows a company time to restructure, work out deals with creditors etc and carry on. So he's pointing out that while they may be in the hurt locker, they aren't necessarily going out of business.
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604 C63 (06-17-2017)
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Saw this info posted elsewhere.
CNN
Federal safety regulators said it could take until 2023 before all the vehicles with recalled Takata airbags to be fixed, a full 15 years after the first car was recalled.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration took steps Friday to speed up the recall of Takata airbags at danger of exploding. But the agency overseeing the recall says the limited availability of replacement parts means the final repairs are still seven years away.
CNN
Federal safety regulators said it could take until 2023 before all the vehicles with recalled Takata airbags to be fixed, a full 15 years after the first car was recalled.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration took steps Friday to speed up the recall of Takata airbags at danger of exploding. But the agency overseeing the recall says the limited availability of replacement parts means the final repairs are still seven years away.
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Mercedes should just upgrade everyone to a facelift wheel and new airbag. Or the w205 wheel and airbag
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Which cars are under recall? Many core models from 2005-2014. NHTSA said its Jan. 22, 2016, recall expansion would add Mercedes-Benz cars and vans — the first time Takata recalls directly involved the brand, owned by Germany’s Daimler AG. On Feb. 9, Daimler responded with more details on the recalls for Mercedes-Benz cars and Daimler vans sold under various brands.
Mercedes spokeswoman Donna Boland told Cars.com that the recalled cars would include "various" C-Class, E-Class, SLK-Class and SLS-Class cars and GL-Class, M-Class and R-Class SUVs, all from the 2005-2014 model years. Daimler vans recalled include various Sprinter vans sold under the Dodge, Freightliner and Mercedes-Benz brands from the 2007-2014 model years.
All the cars and trucks are being recalled for driver-side airbag inflators, Boland said. However, she did not provide a schedule for owner notification and offered no more specifics on particular model years or production date ranges for each vehicle under recall.
Which cars are under recall? Many core models from 2005-2014. NHTSA said its Jan. 22, 2016, recall expansion would add Mercedes-Benz cars and vans — the first time Takata recalls directly involved the brand, owned by Germany’s Daimler AG. On Feb. 9, Daimler responded with more details on the recalls for Mercedes-Benz cars and Daimler vans sold under various brands.
Mercedes spokeswoman Donna Boland told Cars.com that the recalled cars would include "various" C-Class, E-Class, SLK-Class and SLS-Class cars and GL-Class, M-Class and R-Class SUVs, all from the 2005-2014 model years. Daimler vans recalled include various Sprinter vans sold under the Dodge, Freightliner and Mercedes-Benz brands from the 2007-2014 model years.
All the cars and trucks are being recalled for driver-side airbag inflators, Boland said. However, she did not provide a schedule for owner notification and offered no more specifics on particular model years or production date ranges for each vehicle under recall.
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For Canuck owners of C class here is a link to the current data base of TC. My car is not yet included in any air bag recall.
http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/...&ft=&ls=0&sy=0
http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/...&ft=&ls=0&sy=0
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My son received terrible injuries from a Takata airbag that exploded as a result of a relatively minor mishap. Holding your son's hand while doctors pluck out shattered teeth and close gaping facial and arm wounds is gut wrenching. I could only sit and wait while they did surgery to plate shattered facial bones and jaw. The injuries scarred him for life. Honda finally stepped up to the plate and did their best to make it right. If you're driving a car with one of those air bags in a 10+ year old car (not only Honda), you might be better off with it disconnected until replaced and in the interim, drive much more conservatively and defensively.
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That's horrifying. When I finish taking my dash apart I'm just removing that thing from the car altogether.
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to find out if your car is involved
Daimler (Mercedes-Benz)
Which cars are under recall? Many core models from 2005-2014. NHTSA said its Jan. 22, 2016, recall expansion would add Mercedes-Benz cars and vans — the first time Takata recalls directly involved the brand, owned by Germany’s Daimler AG. On Feb. 9, Daimler responded with more details on the recalls for Mercedes-Benz cars and Daimler vans sold under various brands.
Mercedes spokeswoman Donna Boland told Cars.com that the recalled cars would include "various" C-Class, E-Class, SLK-Class and SLS-Class cars and GL-Class, M-Class and R-Class SUVs, all from the 2005-2014 model years. Daimler vans recalled include various Sprinter vans sold under the Dodge, Freightliner and Mercedes-Benz brands from the 2007-2014 model years.
All the cars and trucks are being recalled for driver-side airbag inflators, Boland said. However, she did not provide a schedule for owner notification and offered no more specifics on particular model years or production date ranges for each vehicle under recall.
Which cars are under recall? Many core models from 2005-2014. NHTSA said its Jan. 22, 2016, recall expansion would add Mercedes-Benz cars and vans — the first time Takata recalls directly involved the brand, owned by Germany’s Daimler AG. On Feb. 9, Daimler responded with more details on the recalls for Mercedes-Benz cars and Daimler vans sold under various brands.
Mercedes spokeswoman Donna Boland told Cars.com that the recalled cars would include "various" C-Class, E-Class, SLK-Class and SLS-Class cars and GL-Class, M-Class and R-Class SUVs, all from the 2005-2014 model years. Daimler vans recalled include various Sprinter vans sold under the Dodge, Freightliner and Mercedes-Benz brands from the 2007-2014 model years.
All the cars and trucks are being recalled for driver-side airbag inflators, Boland said. However, she did not provide a schedule for owner notification and offered no more specifics on particular model years or production date ranges for each vehicle under recall.
guys: I found this MB site to enter VIN to find out if your car is affected by the recall: https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/recall
thanks
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Yeah, injury cases that I've read about seem quite severe. There may be no such thing as "minor injuries" from a faulty deployment.
Bill 6 hours ago
My son received terrible injuries from a Takata airbag that exploded as a result of a relatively minor mishap. Holding your son's hand while doctors pluck out shattered teeth and close gaping facial and arm wounds is gut wrenching. I could only sit and wait while they did surgery to plate shattered facial bones and jaw. The injuries scarred him for life. Honda finally stepped up to the plate and did their best to make it right. If you're driving a car with one of those air bags in a 10+ year old car (not only Honda), you might be better off with it disconnected until replaced and in the interim, drive much more conservatively and defensively.
Bill 6 hours ago
My son received terrible injuries from a Takata airbag that exploded as a result of a relatively minor mishap. Holding your son's hand while doctors pluck out shattered teeth and close gaping facial and arm wounds is gut wrenching. I could only sit and wait while they did surgery to plate shattered facial bones and jaw. The injuries scarred him for life. Honda finally stepped up to the plate and did their best to make it right. If you're driving a car with one of those air bags in a 10+ year old car (not only Honda), you might be better off with it disconnected until replaced and in the interim, drive much more conservatively and defensively.
The passenger side is more involved but worth it.
We got along for decades before lap belts came in. Then we got shoulder belts before air bags. We can probably get along without air bags for a while.
The thing is I have only heard about the issue in respect to the bags in the wheel and dashboard. What about the ones in the headliners, doors and/or seats? To change the headliner ones is not easy. From crash experience the headliner has to come out and the only way to do that is to take out the rear window and that also destroys a major wiring harness.
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For Canuck owners of C class here is a link to the current data base of TC. My car is not yet included in any air bag recall.
http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/...&ft=&ls=0&sy=0
http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/...&ft=&ls=0&sy=0
Transport Canada Recall # 2017145
AFAIK they're ALL affected...