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You would need to do some serious work to an A4 (even with a 3.0t) to come even close to competing with a tuned C63 (with exhaust nonetheless) from a roll. I call BS here. Unless of course there are additional mods to that A4 that are not being disclosed.
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It's actually an S4 and posted in the S4 forum even though he says A4.
I came form an S4 and they do respond well to tuning - no comparison car wise, the C63 is such a better car in every way, I liked my S4, I love my C63, they are in a totally different class - S4 guys think they all have RS4's and that they compete with M3's and C63's where they really have 335i or C45 type competition.
My tuned 335i will give my C63 a run also, but is still a 335i. Put a tune on the C63 (which is also about half the price of the S4 tunes) and it will walk that S4 (That and the B8 S4 has lots of reliability issues, was afraid of it, DSG's had a lot of issues, 3.0T drinks oil and a lot where rebuilt under warranty for consumption issues.)
I have had the pleasure of running a few S4's / RS5's. They are nice to look at......the big NA engine in the C63 is a marvel, totally linear power. Really I had no issues pulling on any of them.
It's actually an S4 and posted in the S4 forum even though he says A4.
I came form an S4 and they do respond well to tuning - no comparison car wise, the C63 is such a better car in every way, I liked my S4, I love my C63, they are in a totally different class - S4 guys think they all have RS4's and that they compete with M3's and C63's where they really have 335i or C45 type competition.
My tuned 335i will give my C63 a run also, but is still a 335i. Put a tune on the C63 (which is also about half the price of the S4 tunes) and it will walk that S4 (That and the B8 S4 has lots of reliability issues, was afraid of it, DSG's had a lot of issues, 3.0T drinks oil and a lot where rebuilt under warranty for consumption issues.)
I don't know. I've gotten spanked pretty hard by some 135i and 335i's with stock internals. And I have a tune and headers. I am always wary of those N54 cars. Most have nothing on us. But every once in awhile you encounter one that makes your jaw drop.
With Turbo Upgrades the N54's make 500+ Wheel. They are very quick cars. But as you mentioned they are relatively uncommon.
Originally Posted by chrisridebike8
I don't know. I've gotten spanked pretty hard by some 135i and 335i's with stock internals. And I have a tune and headers. I am always wary of those N54 cars. Most have nothing on us. But every once in awhile you encounter one that makes your jaw drop.
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Originally Posted by chrisridebike8
I don't know. I've gotten spanked pretty hard by some 135i and 335i's with stock internals. And I have a tune and headers. I am always wary of those N54 cars. Most have nothing on us. But every once in awhile you encounter one that makes your jaw drop.
335's have a lot more tuning options, I make about 400 change HP and TQ at the wheels, E85 a bit more - guys are making close to 500 WHP on stock turbo frames and as high as 700 on aftermarket turbos - S4 is stuck at a tune a pulley right now and might get close to 400 awhp but they are not making much more than that and there is not a good supercharger upgrade option. I am not too afraid of a tuned S4, but watch out for those N54's for sure.
335's have a lot more tuning options, I make about 400 change HP and TQ at the wheels, E85 a bit more - guys are making close to 500 WHP on stock turbo frames and as high as 700 on aftermarket turbos - S4 is stuck at a tune a pulley right now and might get close to 400 awhp but they are not making much more than that and there is not a good supercharger upgrade option. I am not too afraid of a tuned S4, but watch out for those N54's for sure.
Oh no. I totally understand. I have friends with S4s and 135s. Turbos are much easier to make power in the aftermarket. I'm never scared of an S4, especially from a roll. One guy was trolling at a recent Cars and Coffee saying that he smokes C63s all the time with his STOCK S4. I laughed and said a stock C63 makes more at the wheels than an S4 even makes at the crank. He asked me to run and I didn't even bother. Might as well run as civic. His only hope would be a dig race in the wet. S4 guys...always out to prove something.
I raced 2 heavily modified S4's in the track and beat both of them by about 0.3 seconds or so. Both guys had upgraded superchargers, headers, exhaust, .. etc.
I only had headers + OE tune on my car. My Airboxes were US OEM with charcoal. My street tires were mismatched and bad as well. No LSD or whatsoever. While the may look nice, they're not on the same level as the AMG imo.
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Originally Posted by xKryptonite
I raced 2 heavily modified S4's in the track and beat both of them by about 0.3 seconds or so. Both guys had upgraded superchargers, headers, exhaust, .. etc.
I only had headers + OE tune on my car. My Airboxes were US OEM with charcoal. My street tires were mismatched and bad as well. No LSD or whatsoever. While the may look nice, they're not on the same level as the AMG imo.
Trap speed will tell it all also, the ET is close to the C63 due to the traction, but typically the trap speed will be 5 mph slower, so you are pulling away fairly hard at the 1/4. Even the supercharger upgrades only get them to about the same HP crank and 50 ft-lbs less torque than a stock C63. A fully upgraded S4 is just getting to C63 levels of performance. C63 is starting there and no competition with upgrades.
S4 guys should worry about the cla45 amg, it is faster stock and modifies pretty well or even a C450, but they don't play on this level, the C63 was a major upgrade to my modified B8 S4.
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People always laughed me off here when I would say my FBO 135i would give my tuned c63 a run for it's money. Just hard to tell someone a $15k car can keep up with their AMG.
However, Audi's generally are slower than the counterpart minus the rs7. I've had an RS4 and it was fun, amazing in the snow, and really nice to look at but wasn't the c63 and my 135i would have no problem outrunning it.
People always laughed me off here when I would say my FBO 135i would give my tuned c63 a run for it's money. Just hard to tell someone a $15k car can keep up with their AMG.
However, Audi's generally are slower than the counterpart minus the rs7. I've had an RS4 and it was fun, amazing in the snow, and really nice to look at but wasn't the c63 and my 135i would have no problem outrunning it.
I had a tuned 335, which produced 400/400, and while it didn't handle like an M3 it did put out exactly 50% more torque. Car pulled great. But you know what? I didn't love it. It was just kinda "meh". It was a very competent car, and did everything well and easily and with little drama, but it just had no personality. It was like being in a comfortable relationship with a nice girl who does absolutely nothing that turns you on. You keep thinking "am I nuts?" I should be loving this arrangement, but you only just like it. Felt absolutely no connection or bond with what was by all rights a great little car.
10-03-2016, 01:32 PM
