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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 10:39 AM
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YOUR OPINION 2012 C63 $40K OTD

Hello everyone,

Can you please give me your opinion on my offer to the dealer

I offered $40k OTD for an California 2012 C63 Sedan Metallic Black with two tone leather interior and carbon fiber accents, clean CarFax, Clean PPI
36,000 Miles with P31, 471, U70

sold as is with no Warranty.

Dealer asking price is $42,790 plus tax and fees.

Based on my research and Values on KBB and Edmunds I thought $40k OTD was a very reasonable offer, but the dealer told me that my offer of $40k was way under their cost and now way that could do that.

I liked to hear what you guys think

Thanks,

Tim
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 10:59 AM
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42k is already really good. Out here in LA/OC you wont find that good of a price.
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 11:09 AM
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I picked up a 2013 with same mileage but no P31, etc. for $39990. OTD put me right at $42500 so I think their pricing is reasonable. The market isn't dropping much on the 12+ even if a lot of the cars are sitting for a long time.
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 11:15 AM
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That's a good price. You can always buy an extended warranty ($3-4K) and I would suggest it, parts are expensive. The price on the car is about in line with what I paid for mine.
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 11:15 AM
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has extended warranty? cpo?
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 11:16 AM
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You telling them 40k out the door puts the car at 37 or so... that's 5k less than what they are asking, I doubt they will move that much
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 11:23 AM
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Yes I got a quote for 2 year extended mercedes warranty for $3,707 from a Mercedes Dealership in North Carolina

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That's a good price. You can always buy an extended warranty ($3-4K) and I would suggest it, parts are expensive. The price on the car is about in line with what I paid for mine.
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 11:24 AM
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No not CPO'd no Extended Warranty. "AS IS" I was planning to buy the Extended Warranty from a Mercedes Dealership in North Carolina for $3,707. 2 years Unlimited

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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 11:28 AM
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I'd offer 42k out the door. Try that and see what they say.

Also, shipping from California to North Carolina is going to cost you about $1500-$1800. Shipped mine from Chapel Hill to the Bay Area.
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 11:33 AM
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Let me clarify that.

Car is here in California, but I can buy the Extended Warranty from
Jeff Jackson @ Tafel Motors in Kentucky 40207

I am pretty firm on my offers as with the Extended warranty it will put right around $43,800

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I'd offer 42k out the door. Try that and see what they say.

Also, shipping from California to North Carolina is going to cost you about $1500-$1800. Shipped mine from Chapel Hill to the Bay Area.

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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by silversleeper48
Let me clarify that.

Car is here in California, but I can buy the Extended Warranty from
Jeff Jackson @ Tafel Motors in Kentucky 40207
either way, still ask for 42k out the door. I still don't think you'll close it that low but pretty close to it. Thats your best bet, report back!
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 11:58 AM
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Yeah, I'll check that out and let you know. However it is kinda disappointing to spend 30 mins at the dealer and sit down and put $40k on the table and to have them tell me that's way too low and not come back with a counter offer. Instead they try and go over the options on the car that I am will aware of and spoke about all of them on the test drive.


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either way, still ask for 42k out the door. I still don't think you'll close it that low but pretty close to it. Thats your best bet, report back!
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 12:10 PM
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I think thats a little low.

I have a 2012 C63 Sedan. Sapphire Grey Metallic (gorgeous color, get lots of compliments on it), two-tone black/white interior. CF trim with additional CF on the AC surround, shifter surround and cup holder area, interior is immaculate minus the driver side bolster, exterior is also in great shape minus the rear bumper which took a little hit, but not really noticeable. Car came fully loaded minus the P31 pack and LSD, but I did a Eurocharge tune on there as well. Car has 26500 miles on it. I wouldn't let it go for less than $44 in so cal.
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by silversleeper48
Yeah, I'll check that out and let you know. However it is kinda disappointing to spend 30 mins at the dealer and sit down and put $40k on the table and to have them tell me that's way too low and not come back with a counter offer. Instead they try and go over the options on the car that I am will aware of and spoke about all of them on the test drive.
I'm guessing not making a counter offer is part of their strategy to sell you the car.....I'm sure there is another one out there, but if you really like it, just go for it, seems like a reasonable offer for an out of warranty AMG, good luck
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by silversleeper48
Yeah, I'll check that out and let you know. However it is kinda disappointing to spend 30 mins at the dealer and sit down and put $40k on the table and to have them tell me that's way too low and not come back with a counter offer. Instead they try and go over the options on the car that I am will aware of and spoke about all of them on the test drive.
but lets be honest, youre trying to sell your car for 42k and a buyer is coming in 5k (cause of taxes, reg, etc) lower than what you already have it for (which is actually a good deal). You're gonna tell him no too. 5k is a good chunk of change.
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 12:52 PM
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Very true, but if it was a Private Party sale and if the seller would lower the sale price number on the Bill Of Sale The seller would get almost the asking price and I would pay less tax at DMV, so in a way that would be a win/win. With the dealer I am dealing with that is not possible.


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but lets be honest, youre trying to sell your car for 42k and a buyer is coming in 5k (cause of taxes, reg, etc) lower than what you already have it for (which is actually a good deal). You're gonna tell him no too. 5k is a good chunk of change.
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Originally Posted by silversleeper48
Very true, but if it was a Private Party sale and if the seller would lower the sale price number on the Bill Of Sale The seller would get almost the asking price and I would pay less tax at DMV, so in a way that would be a win/win. With the dealer I am dealing with that is not possible.
If you want to go with a private seller, wait for a private seller to sell.

There's no shortage of AMG's in California.
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 02:37 PM
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42k is not a bad price. I would get the extended warranty unless you plan on modding the car.
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 06:53 PM
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If they wouldn't even give you a counter offer that tells you your offer was way too low and they think they can sell it to someone else for more. If it was a trade in it's not costing them any money really to have it sit on the lot for another month.

$42K OTD is probably more reasonable.
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Originally Posted by silversleeper48
Very true, but if it was a Private Party sale and if the seller would lower the sale price number on the Bill Of Sale The seller would get almost the asking price and I would pay less tax at DMV, so in a way that would be a win/win. With the dealer I am dealing with that is not possible.
Not only is that not possible, it's totally irrelevant. You aren't buying private plus you are saying 'if only I could find a private seller who would commit tax fraud'. That's not a basis for financial calculations or a valuation. Sorry, but its true. Remember also, paying that lower number on the BofS can bite you on the *** if you have an accident and want an insurance company to make you whole.

Essentially you are 5k under and so I understand why they don't counter. Basically they always have a counter-offer out there, and its full price. Toss a couple grand more in there and they will start talking. If they don't, walk away. They'll come calling tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by AMG3.2
I'd offer 42k out the door. Try that and see what they say.

Also, shipping from California to North Carolina is going to cost you about $1500-$1800. Shipped mine from Chapel Hill to the Bay Area.
Or you could fly out there and drive it home and save about $1200.. thats what I would do but you do whats best for you.
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Originally Posted by silversleeper48
Hello everyone,

Can you please give me your opinion on my offer to the dealer

I offered $40k OTD for an California 2012 C63 Sedan Metallic Black with two tone leather interior and carbon fiber accents, clean CarFax, Clean PPI
36,000 Miles with P31, 471, U70

sold as is with no Warranty.

Dealer asking price is $42,790 plus tax and fees.

Based on my research and Values on KBB and Edmunds I thought $40k OTD was a very reasonable offer, but the dealer told me that my offer of $40k was way under their cost and now way that could do that.

I liked to hear what you guys think

Thanks,

Tim

I think that you can do better. I just did a quick search on Autotrader and found better deals.. There are 13 cars availbe with 30-50k miles for less money..

2011 32k miles $33.5k in TX

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...36028282&Log=0


Here is another one in San Francisco 2011 with 38,000 miles for 33k.

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...36621664&Log=0
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 09:02 PM
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I think that you can do better. I just did a quick search on Autotrader and found better deals.. There are 13 cars availbe with 30-50k miles for less money..
The two you linked are pre-facelift which is why they are going for significantly less money.
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Originally Posted by C63fora2w1
I think that you can do better. I just did a quick search on Autotrader and found better deals.. There are 13 cars availbe with 30-50k miles for less money..

2011 32k miles $33.5k in TX

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...36028282&Log=0


Here is another one in San Francisco 2011 with 38,000 miles for 33k.

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...36621664&Log=0

They may or may not be in as good of a shape as the one he is asking about.
Also 2011 is the pre facelifted one and the facelifted models tend to be higher priced for a reason. Yes better deals can be found, but you have to look at the car carefully and see if it is a better deal.
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Originally Posted by Mazspeed
They may or may not be in as good of a shape as the one he is asking about.
Also 2011 is the pre facelifted one and the facelifted models tend to be higher priced for a reason. Yes better deals can be found, but you have to look at the car carefully and see if it is a better deal.
Ultimately you have to decide whats best for you. Is a facelifed car worth 8-9k more to you ? IDK but value is important to me so I would be be looking for the best deal.

To me this is a good deal on a 12' car http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...38847329&Log=0 You be the judge.
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