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diverdown 01-01-2017 10:53 PM

any suggestions for modifications on a 507c63
 
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Hi guys, this is my first time posting here but have been reading lots of great posts and suggestions. I purchased a 507 in April and have slowly been gathering parts ( modifications ) The car has 6000miles on it but the previous owner drove under I believe a delivery truck and folded the hood and one fender as well as rad,a/c condenser etc. When I saw this come up I jumped on it and sold my E46 supercharged M3 and now have a little bit of room to play as the car was substantially less due to the accident.
I purchased some things so far but was wondering if there are any other suggestions that should be done to make an already great looking and from your guys posts great driving car. The motor and everything is untouched but my modifications so far from Ramspeed are headers (shorty) full cat back exhaust with valve for quite operation as need be European ecu tune ,cf air box with twin air filters, cf rear spoiler ( just a small one ) black series full body kit as well as fenders and side skirts in cf and a cf hood. The car starts but I have never driven it it was driven on to the flat bed that picked it up but has not been startted since . I will include some pictures of the car and my toy the m3 I miss . If anyone has sugestions on aftermarket rads, headlights or sugestions that would be great Thanks in advance

BLKROKT 01-01-2017 10:58 PM

250 shot of nitrous and a can of Boostane

diverdown 01-01-2017 11:07 PM

Thanks for the input. I had a zex kit on a previous car many years ago ( Prelude ) might be a good way to go. Thanks

nandra01 01-01-2017 11:11 PM

You can do a wide range of modifications to your C63 507 such as under the hood tuning from RENNtech such as a carbon fiber air box and or there performance packages from r1, r2 or r3 which depending on tune level add ECU upgrades, throttle body upgrade, aswell upgrades to the transmission etc. You could also add an exhaust such as IPE or Brabus. for a bodykit that is your choice, however you could add carbon fiber hood vents and other bits and pieces to the car like a carbon front spliter and deck lid spoiler.

In my personal opinion you should restore the car to stock, using MB parts before adding any other modifications. if any mods are done to keep them easy to reverse when selling the car if the future owner doesn't want the mods.

chrisridebike8 01-01-2017 11:38 PM

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...46f547a349.jpg

realjones88 01-02-2017 12:12 AM

what is that like $10K in damage?

mr747 01-02-2017 12:43 AM


Originally Posted by chrisridebike8 (Post 7011731)

:)

diverdown 01-02-2017 12:04 PM

Thanks nandra This is the stage || I believe modification I have coming. just wasn't sure if there is anything I'm overlooking . I have the larger air box and headers exhaust to go with this setup as well as an ecu tune. Thanks for your help

diverdown 01-02-2017 12:08 PM

Hi realjones 88 Yes its about 10 grand.The headlights are the most expensive and the rest is just small stuff. The hood for the 507 was hard to find and more then a carbon fibre one so I am going the carbon route
Thanks

Surge 01-03-2017 11:08 PM

Are you sure the frame isn't bent? It looks damaged to me, from your first photo.
I would focus on repairing the car back to stock first, not on mods at this stage!

chrisridebike8 01-04-2017 01:35 AM

Shorty headers, renntech mods, and stuff from brabus. Yeah no. Seriously though. This stuff has been covered to dead and no offense, but almost no one on these forums has any of that stuff suggested by nandra and for good reason. Search. It's even a giant sticky at the top of the C63 section.

SuperFastYo 01-04-2017 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by chrisridebike8 (Post 7013873)
Shorty headers, renntech mods, and stuff from brabus. Yeah no. Seriously though. This stuff has been covered to dead and no offense, but almost no one on these forums has any of that stuff suggested by nandra and for good reason. Search. It's even a giant sticky at the top of the C63 section.

yea I was reading nandra's response and thinking nobody here did any of that haha

INS1GNIA 01-04-2017 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by diverdown (Post 7011709)
The car starts but I have never driven it it was driven on to the flat bed that picked it up but has not been startted since .

Hmmmm....

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...9d10a4655b.jpg

Surge 01-04-2017 02:11 PM

You are probably looking at $8-10K in repairs alone. And that's if the frame is not bent.
I was quoted almost $2K just to replace my A/C condenser - and it was just nicked by a stone. You're going to need that, a rad, oil coolers, trans cooler, steering cooler, bumper, etc.

Not trying to be a downer... hope the car was basically free.

C SEXY 3 01-04-2017 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by Surge (Post 7014416)
You are probably looking at $8-10K in repairs alone. And that's if the frame is not bent.
I was quoted almost $2K just to replace my A/C condenser - and it was just nicked by a stone. You're going to need that, a rad, oil coolers, trans cooler, steering cooler, bumper, etc.

Not trying to be a downer... hope the car was basically free.

2k for AC?! I had mine done independent tech for 1100, that is with the unit and labor.

SuperFastYo 01-04-2017 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by C SEXY 3 (Post 7014465)
2k for AC?! I had mine done independent tech for 1100, that is with the unit and labor.

Isn't Canada more expensive right now though?

Surge 01-04-2017 03:02 PM

Yup, our Canadian $ is about 65 cents to a US dollar.
The condenser alone is $800 Canadian, and that's if ordering from a US online site. (I go to the US often and can get it shipped there).

So add 2-3 hours of labor, 13% sales tax and you're still at about $1500 Cdn, or about $1100 USD... so yeah, about what you paid C Sexy 3.

Would like to DIY, but don't think it's for me. Plus, you have to recharge the system and add some compressor lubricant.

C SEXY 3 01-04-2017 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by SuperFastYo (Post 7014474)
Isn't Canada more expensive right now though?


Originally Posted by Surge (Post 7014478)
Yup, our Canadian $ is about 65 cents to a US dollar.
The condenser alone is $800 Canadian, and that's if ordering from a US online site. (I go to the US often and can get it shipped there).

So add 2-3 hours of labor, 13% sales tax and you're still at about $1500 Cdn, or about $1100 USD... so yeah, about what you paid C Sexy 3.

Would like to DIY, but don't think it's for me. Plus, you have to recharge the system and add some compressor lubricant.

Oops my bad didn't notice that haha.

Surge 01-04-2017 03:23 PM

Anyone who bought the C63 507 new in Canada has the last laugh though...
The cars were a full $20K LESS in Canada, not even considering the exchange rate... even less expensive if you took that into account.

Adi-Benz 01-04-2017 04:05 PM

that's why you wait and buy the Alfa Romeo Guilia Quad with canadian spec-manual for cheaper and import it to the US*

Surge 01-04-2017 04:10 PM

absolutely! Or just about any car now. For example a 2016 C63S Coupe is US$64,500 in Canada.

C63fora2w1 01-04-2017 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by Surge (Post 7014536)
absolutely! Or just about any car now. For example a 2016 C63S Coupe is US$64,500 in Canada.



How much does it cost to import one to the US ??

Surge 01-04-2017 05:37 PM

It doesn't cost any more than a few hundred for US customs forms and paperwork. There is free trade between Canada and the US.
Depending on your state or federal rules, you may have to pay duty because it's made in Germany (note that the C class sedans are made in the USA, including the C63... so no duty for these).

C63fora2w1 01-04-2017 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by Surge (Post 7014631)
It doesn't cost any more than a few hundred for US customs forms and paperwork. There is free trade between Canada and the US.
Depending on your state or federal rules, you may have to pay duty because it's made in Germany (note that the C class sedans are made in the USA, including the C63... so no duty for these).



I wonder how hard it would be to get a bank to finance a car from Canada ?

Surge 01-04-2017 05:47 PM

It should not be any different than getting a bank to finance a car bought in the US. You just give them the VIN # - they don't need to know where the car was purchased. They all come from the same factory :)

Also, the warranty is completely valid. Do not believe any dealer that tells you otherwise. The simple story is that you moved from Canada to the US, and brought the car with you. This happens ALL the time. If you want to be sure, call MB USA (not a dealer), and tell them you are moving from Canada to the USA and is the warranty valid. They will say it is.

C63fora2w1 01-04-2017 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by Surge (Post 7014640)
It should not be any different than getting a bank to finance a car bought in the US. You just give them the VIN # - they don't need to know where the car was purchased. They all come from the same factory :)

Also, the warranty is completely valid. Do not believe any dealer that tells you otherwise. The simple story is that you moved from Canada to the US, and brought the car with you. This happens ALL the time. If you want to be sure, call MB USA (not a dealer), and tell them you are moving from Canada to the USA and is the warranty valid. They will say it is.



Very good point.. sometimes the less info you give the better.

Surge 01-04-2017 05:52 PM

I can recommend a dealer in Toronto if you end up doing it. Always good to deal with the sales manager, as they are not paid on commission.

Surge 01-04-2017 05:53 PM

Check out autotrader.ca

BTW - what happened to autotrader.com ?

C63fora2w1 01-04-2017 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by Surge (Post 7014647)
I can recommend a dealer in Toronto if you end up doing it. Always good to deal with the sales manager, as they are not paid on commission.



PM me the info I'm shopping and always looking for a deal.

C63fora2w1 01-04-2017 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by Surge (Post 7014648)
Check out autotrader.ca

BTW - what happened to autotrader.com ?





Nothing I have been on it all day..

Adi-Benz 01-04-2017 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by C63fora2w1 (Post 7014650)
Nothing I have been on it all day..

Same. Well, it works lol haven't been on it all day.

MBNRG 01-04-2017 07:41 PM

Diver,

As others have stated, frame appears likely compromised/bent. Restoring to stock with all OEM parts would be a good way to go.

Difficult to see from first photo, but right wheel arch Aux Oil Cooler also appears damaged (possibly). If so, def recommend the 440 Cooling Upgrade:
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...ing-c63-8.html

diverdown 01-04-2017 10:14 PM

The frame is good but thanks for the concern, I had a body shop who is doing all the body work look at it. it still needs to go to a shop to have it put on a hoist and measured but the guy has been in business for a long time and said that there should be no concerns, I had driver take my flatbed to the dealer where the car came from and he informed me they fired it up and drove it on, I on the other hand have never started it as there is no rad or oil cooler and think the guy who drove it on is an idiot as all essential items are damaged and were leaking coolant once it arrived at my place I have a kit ordered and the stage two mods, the oil cooler is bent and I will look into the cooling package.Thanks for the advice. someone said they hope I got the car for cheap.. I paid quite a bitt of money for it but feel as thou I have a nice track car. I also would not have someone cut into the original body or apply paint, or remove mint body parts to an immaculate c63 so this way it won't hurt as much as its only going to get better. I saved or at least hope to of saved some money on the purchase but you guys are right the US dollar beats us up pretty good. The body parts are all coming directly from Germany and claim to be of top quality and can keep you guys informed if interested Its suppose to arrive here by boat first week of feburary as well as the header and exhaust and the carbon parts by air as well as the ecu shortly after. I appreciate your guys input and am not looking for dumb comments. Its a sweet car and if I wanted a new one I would of bought new especially with finance rates on new cars but decided to go this route. Once this car is together and rolling next winter I hope to do the same as I did to the m3 and have a supercharger installed .I love the track and tacking the wife out on weekends I wanted a comfortable car that has power and all the options of modern cars as well as something that I can go to the track with the boys and smoke some tires and kick some domestic car ass.I also wanted something different something unique and I think this car is going to be all that.Thanks for the guys with the advice and hope this answered all comments /questions made.

BLKROKT 01-04-2017 10:20 PM

Good luck dude. Looking forward to following your progress. :y

diverdown 01-04-2017 10:20 PM

There was a question made about importing US Mercedes into Canada. You need to pay taxes on the value of the car, you need to hire a broker that was $250 you need to pay an RIV inspection fee of $75 and then you need to pay Mercedes a BS fee for a recal clearance letter that I think was $450 bucks saying it was admisable into Canada and then the final kick is you need to pay a $2500 luxury vehicle tax ( gas guzzler tax ) apparently if I bought a G63 that would of been $4500
Its an easy thing to do and I've done it several times just beware of the fees and have all your paperwork in order before crossing

diverdown 01-04-2017 10:34 PM

hope she looks like this
 
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This is the kit and what I hope the car to look like I bought a carbon bs hood and a small carbon spoiler and black series tips for the exhaust as well as an all black grill and badges getting excited

C63fora2w1 01-05-2017 12:17 AM

Acully I was asking about importing a car from Canada to the US to take advantage of the exchange rate.

C63fora2w1 01-05-2017 12:20 AM


Originally Posted by diverdown (Post 7014939)
The frame is good but thanks for the concern, I had a body shop who is doing all the body work look at it. it still needs to go to a shop to have it put on a hoist and measured but the guy has been in business for a long time and said that there should be no concerns, I had driver take my flatbed to the dealer where the car came from and he informed me they fired it up and drove it on, I on the other hand have never started it as there is no rad or oil cooler and think the guy who drove it on is an idiot as all essential items are damaged and were leaking coolant once it arrived at my place I have a kit ordered and the stage two mods, the oil cooler is bent and I will look into the cooling package.Thanks for the advice. someone said they hope I got the car for cheap.. I paid quite a bitt of money for it but feel as thou I have a nice track car. I also would not have someone cut into the original body or apply paint, or remove mint body parts to an immaculate c63 so this way it won't hurt as much as its only going to get better. I saved or at least hope to of saved some money on the purchase but you guys are right the US dollar beats us up pretty good. The body parts are all coming directly from Germany and claim to be of top quality and can keep you guys informed if interested Its suppose to arrive here by boat first week of feburary as well as the header and exhaust and the carbon parts by air as well as the ecu shortly after. I appreciate your guys input and am not looking for dumb comments. Its a sweet car and if I wanted a new one I would of bought new especially with finance rates on new cars but decided to go this route. Once this car is together and rolling next winter I hope to do the same as I did to the m3 and have a supercharger installed .I love the track and tacking the wife out on weekends I wanted a comfortable car that has power and all the options of modern cars as well as something that I can go to the track with the boys and smoke some tires and kick some domestic car ass.I also wanted something different something unique and I think this car is going to be all that.Thanks for the guys with the advice and hope this answered all comments /questions made.

Actually I applaud you and wish you all the success possible. I always appreciate it when someone is not willing to listen to the nay sayers and forge ahead. I just hope the costs don't spiral out of control on you but it sounds like you have a good idea of whats going on. :bow:

motoguy 01-05-2017 12:32 AM

what did you pay for this?

motoguy 01-05-2017 12:33 AM

black series conversions never look good!

BLKROKT 01-05-2017 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by motoguy (Post 7015048)
black series conversions never look good!

Untrue. Wobble64's is flawless. As are many other member conversions.

It's about using OE or high-quality aftermarket parts.

Adi-Benz 01-05-2017 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by BLKROKT (Post 7015195)
Untrue. Wobble64's is flawless. As are many other member conversions.

It's about using OE or high-quality aftermarket parts.

With BLK on this one. You can go the cheap route and it will give you a cheap look. If you want it to look OEM you have to go with good parts.

diverdown 06-03-2018 10:32 PM

Thought I’d share
 
Thought I’d share as I have not been on here for some time. The c63 507 is awesome. It sounds amazing with the full bi mogul exhaust. The car is elegant and super comfy to cruise in and at the track this thing wakes up and kicks a**. It’s not an m3 but the only time I miss that ride is in corners at the track. The 63 is totally usable power. With the tune it has even more punch and now that I’ve driven it for a year ( well parked winter till April ) the car seems that much better. It turns heads/looks sharp/and my 3 year old loves it when we cruise with the roof open
Awesome driver great track toy. Thanks for all those who made suggestions https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...51ce3e017.jpeg

Before tint and wax
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...ed90a2df8.jpeg

Fall last year. All done
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...81af4675f.jpeg

At shop before tint and tune
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...b992db8bd.jpeg

All ser
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...bd94e8774.jpeg

Carbon hood before changing out the hood scoops
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...e75432e30.jpeg

All done

BLKROKT 06-03-2018 10:39 PM

Looks sharp :y

What BS Kit is that and where did you get it?

diverdown 06-03-2018 10:44 PM

Thanks. All parts and tune came directly from Germany. The place I used was RamSpeed they do only high end cars. They have done many 63s good quality , great guys to deal with. Shipping takes a while but great overall

SuckaGDog 06-03-2018 10:45 PM

Is that a rep BS body kit? Looks leaps and bounds better than when you got it! Great work.
Edit: BLKROKT beat me to it.


Specs on the wheels?

diverdown 06-03-2018 11:07 PM

Thanks
 
the 507 looked like a refined Buisness car stock. Looked like you were going to work in comfort
Now it scares people when you fire it up and when you look at the back side it screams Buisness. It’s super fat /wide and it does not scream office anymore. All Buisness
wheels are 19x9.5 with Michelin ps4s 255-35x19
and 19x11 running 295-30-19
rims are custom one offs


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