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I finally goes to the dyno. Here is the Sheet for v5 GAS over v6 E85 fuel map with the ethanol kit installed. Both whp and torque increase considerably.
I finally goes to the dyno. Here is the Sheet for v5 GAS over v6 E85 fuel map with the ethanol kit installed. Both whp and torque increase considerably.
There is only gas station here in Olathe, KS, but I've had my eye on it for a while. I keep reading all these threads and it gets more and more tempting. May have to check out the place this weekend and maybe pick up the kit .
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Decided to try it out and sent my purchase over the weekend! Can't wait to install and fill up for the first time!
Thank you Dave and the other EC people for checking up and helping out and quick replies, always great service.
Last edited by INS1GNIA; May 31, 2017 at 05:09 PM.
Pulled the trigger this morning, can't wait to install and see what the hype is about on a N/A car, every bit helps. Dave and Adam were easy to talk to and answered any questions I could think of, seemed like good people thank you!
They just finished construction (like, 3 weeks ago) on a gas station 2 miles from my house and next to the highway, offering E85 on 4 of their pumps. My wallet is hella itchy now. Any updates from those of you who've recently purchased yours? I put down 451/389 on a dynojet some months back, and really curious what my gains will be; doubt 475/410 would be unreasonably expected.
They just finished construction (like, 3 weeks ago) on a gas station 2 miles from my house and next to the highway, offering E85 on 4 of their pumps. My wallet is hella itchy now. Any updates from those of you who've recently purchased yours? I put down 451/389 on a dynojet some months back, and really curious what my gains will be; doubt 475/410 would be unreasonably expected.
Pretty much my numbers and I had ROW boxes, V6 tune, under drive pulley, and a 2nd cat delete before switching over. Maybe those magic air box spacers will get me to 500whp!
Is anyone running a step or two colder spark plugs on their setup? Had some misfires happen to the car so its got me wondering about pre detonation being an issue.
Is anyone running a step or two colder spark plugs on their setup? Had some misfires happen to the car so its got me wondering about pre detonation being an issue.
that happened to a buddy of mine too and I would agree a step colder on the plugs should help
Looking at pulling the trigger on this. From what I have read I will not need to upgrade injectors unless I am running FI or LT headers. Correct? Only mod to my car is secondary cats removed and V6 tune.
Looking at pulling the trigger on this. From what I have read I will not need to upgrade injectors unless I am running FI or LT headers. Correct? Only mod to my car is secondary cats removed and V6 tune.
That is correct sir, no injectors needed for that mod package
Call the shop and chat with Adam if you have any further questions.
I'm guessing less gains with race fuel than E85. We used to run Q16 at 18.00 per gallon and we make the same HP/TQ with E85. We really stretch the timing out on our NA racecar to take full advantage of knock resistance.
NA 1847cc Mazda FWIW.
Vince
Crazy gains for NA. Just nuts.. Is it because AMG left a lot on the table? What are the gains with race gas?
The flex fuel kit is for e85 not race fuel. You can put race fuel in your car without this kit just like normal gas. E85 and race gas when tuned for will be similar. The difference being you can run e85 for under 2 bucks a gallon by me allowing you to have that power on a daily basis. I don't think many daily their car on race gas for 9 bucks a gallon.
I'm guessing less gains with race fuel than E85. We used to run Q16 at 18.00 per gallon and we make the same HP/TQ with E85. We really stretch the timing out on our NA racecar to take full advantage of knock resistance.
NA 1847cc Mazda FWIW.
Vince
Do you see much of an increase with just race fuel on the normal street tune? Like an incremental 1-2 degrees perhaps?
Just race car with a stand alone Tec3r computer. Before E85 was around I ran Q16 race fuel and was able to run 10 -15 more advance at 7k RPM. Then with E85 I am able to run the same stupid advance numbers. Same HP gains too.
Vince
Originally Posted by Celicasaur
Do you see much of an increase with just race fuel on the normal street tune? Like an incremental 1-2 degrees perhaps?
Had my W212 on the rollers recently. Pretty normal mods limited to ROW airboxes, secondary cat and resonator delete, and the flex fuel kit. This is with the Eurocharged V7 tune on a nice warm day.
On 93 octane I was seeing approximately 445hp and 408lbft. On E85 (still the stock V7 tune, not an E85 specific tune) those numbers went to 470hp and 420lbft.
Additionally running E85 I can do a full out 20 minute track session at 95 degrees without oil temps hitting more than 270. On 93 I'd be hitting 285 and getting thermal shutdowns, even with a giant secondary oil cooler, so that's another big win
Curious as to what an E85 specific tune would do, but not curious enough to mess with flashing it back and forth with the risk of forgetting. 470hp is already a whole lot of fun on the track!
Let's see some pictures of your engine bays with the flex fuel kit installed.
Is it easy to see the mods with the new fuel rail with ethanol sensor, and the controller mounted in the engine bay.
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