FlexFuel for Everyone! Eurocharged ATX E85 Kits NOW AVAILABLE :)
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Honestly i dont see you gaining much if any more performance over e85. E85 is already 105 octane. You gain only so much with n/a. Now boosted well little different. You can try it watch your injector duty cycle. Personally I’d stick with e85.
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Just installed the AFD/EC kit, took about 30 min.
Pretty good set up a few points to note - mine came with no instructions, there is a video on youtube but it doesnt tell you a few things
1. How to place the wires, need to be on the intake side as I cant secure airbox after thinking i could tuck around fuel rail, foam insulator doesnt fit them there.
2. The main unit placement on RHD cars- you cant use the LHD placement ive yet to decide where to put it permanently, it is secured by zipties currently
3. Your existing injector wiring may be brittle - i heard the wire insulation crack on a few of mine, try not to bend them too much.
4. If you dont change injectors you dont need to touch fuel rail, you can remove existing injector plugs with needlenose pliers then new ones push fit just fine.
5. Ethanol sensor plug takes quite a bit of force to click it in.
I do have one question though - how do i remove the new injector plugs from the injector? Im terrible for breaking plastic clips and now all are on I cant see how to remove so i can re route cabling.
Pretty good set up a few points to note - mine came with no instructions, there is a video on youtube but it doesnt tell you a few things
1. How to place the wires, need to be on the intake side as I cant secure airbox after thinking i could tuck around fuel rail, foam insulator doesnt fit them there.
2. The main unit placement on RHD cars- you cant use the LHD placement ive yet to decide where to put it permanently, it is secured by zipties currently
3. Your existing injector wiring may be brittle - i heard the wire insulation crack on a few of mine, try not to bend them too much.
4. If you dont change injectors you dont need to touch fuel rail, you can remove existing injector plugs with needlenose pliers then new ones push fit just fine.
5. Ethanol sensor plug takes quite a bit of force to click it in.
I do have one question though - how do i remove the new injector plugs from the injector? Im terrible for breaking plastic clips and now all are on I cant see how to remove so i can re route cabling.
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the video should start at 4:51, if not skip to that time and you'll see kind of how its done from far away from an ex mercedes mechanic.
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I'm still on the fence about doing this. I'm ready but it seems like the drawbacks can get you. I looked through all the pages and it seems it's best to do this with new injectors. I have not seen a kit that includes everything in one including injectors. At least I have not found one yet. On average are you guys happy with the install and performance upgrade of the E85 setup?
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I'm still on the fence about doing this. I'm ready but it seems like the drawbacks can get you. I looked through all the pages and it seems it's best to do this with new injectors. I have not seen a kit that includes everything in one including injectors. At least I have not found one yet. On average are you guys happy with the install and performance upgrade of the E85 setup?
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I'm still on the fence about doing this. I'm ready but it seems like the drawbacks can get you. I looked through all the pages and it seems it's best to do this with new injectors. I have not seen a kit that includes everything in one including injectors. At least I have not found one yet. On average are you guys happy with the install and performance upgrade of the E85 setup?
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Did you get a custom dyno tune? Have you ever tracked the car with e85?
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tracking with e85 shouldn't be an issue. you'll find lost power because alcohol when converting to a gas will lower combustion temperatures. when its hot outside with gasoline i feel a power loss. with ethanol i feel almost no loss, or very little.
I'm very happy as well. Some folks are really dialed in, some folks may be overthinking it. For me, I'm mostly stock. So my approach was simply to install new stock injectors on my 70k motor, and install the rest. No custom tune or E85 map yet. Works great! On the wish list sure, an E85 map, but that's just icing. And yeah I track my car with E85.
