Where can I buy a copy of this book?
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(except for D, who will burn for all eternity in the trunk of his Mustang.)
(except for D, who will burn for all eternity in the trunk of his Mustang.)
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May the Almighty Jim - rambler of ramblers, knower of all things inconsequential, wearer of the holy leather biker garments, and most smug of all the smug - bestow his gracious forgiveness and light on us all.
(except for D, who will burn for all eternity in the trunk of his Mustang.)
(except for D, who will burn for all eternity in the trunk of his Mustang.)
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Update: Mercedes Canada Customer Service offered to try to locate the book for me if it still exists anywhere in the MB system (Canada or U.S.). They said to email them the photos of the cover and first 2 inside pages that I got from the other forum member, and then please give them a few days. So, I guess I'll know in a few days if any copies still are laying around.
Alex, thanks for the suggestion to call them.
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Alex, thanks for the suggestion to call them.
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I don't know, at least yet, that there is anything particularly "special" about the book. I just would like to add it to my car book collection, and to hear what MB itself had to say about the C-class (the book was by MB, not an independent author), which may differ in focus from what the online and paper magazine articles focused on. The online and paper mags restrict their coverage of any given car model to just a few pages at most, whereas an entire book can devote multiple pages to any individual topic or feature. The C series as a whole, and the AMG C63 in particular, are complex cars and getting the MB comments on the design would be interesting to me.
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No. That I downloaded a long time ago from the MB website. 
I have in the past learned some pretty interesting things about specific models of cars by reading books either put out by a manufacturer itself, or from an author who had inside access to the people who actually conceived and/or designed it.
Examples:
- The prototype for the very effective factory headers on the Ford Coyote engine were designed and built by one of the Ford engineers, who also was a hotrodder, in his garage, on a weekend
- Many of the critical limitations of the Chevy SSR retro pickup truck were a result of GM Management forcing a very rapid move from "show vehicle" to production, by using an already EPA certified chassis, the Chevy Trailblazer chassis with pre-certified LM4 truck engine, which was not a good basis for the SSR, and not initially wanting to put the Corvette LS series engine into any other lower priced product (sound familiar to MB's aversion to putting a "510" hp M156 into a "cheaper" car like the C63?)
- The over 500hp V6 engine in the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrafoglio that gets such rave reviews from the car mags is actually 6/8ths of a Ferrari engine, and the entire Giulia car design was managed by a former Ferrari Head of Design. Could that maybe explain why the Giulia, a $50k bargain even in canada with its higher pricing for cars, is getting such rave reviews?
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I have in the past learned some pretty interesting things about specific models of cars by reading books either put out by a manufacturer itself, or from an author who had inside access to the people who actually conceived and/or designed it.
Examples:
- The prototype for the very effective factory headers on the Ford Coyote engine were designed and built by one of the Ford engineers, who also was a hotrodder, in his garage, on a weekend
- Many of the critical limitations of the Chevy SSR retro pickup truck were a result of GM Management forcing a very rapid move from "show vehicle" to production, by using an already EPA certified chassis, the Chevy Trailblazer chassis with pre-certified LM4 truck engine, which was not a good basis for the SSR, and not initially wanting to put the Corvette LS series engine into any other lower priced product (sound familiar to MB's aversion to putting a "510" hp M156 into a "cheaper" car like the C63?)
- The over 500hp V6 engine in the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrafoglio that gets such rave reviews from the car mags is actually 6/8ths of a Ferrari engine, and the entire Giulia car design was managed by a former Ferrari Head of Design. Could that maybe explain why the Giulia, a $50k bargain even in canada with its higher pricing for cars, is getting such rave reviews?
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I'm about to vote for throw under the bus. The continued hate and bullying is getting old and lame. You made your point, we understand that you don't t like him, and we don't need to be reminded about it ten times a day. Block him if be offends you.
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I should watch my mouth, because he's allowed to say whatever he wants?
When he asks a normal on point question I give him a normal on point answer. I think even he will admit that. When he goes on a long rambly diatribe I give him a hard time, and often explain why its wacky, to which he has on multiple occasions responded with a variation on "Ah, I see what you mean. Yeah, I'll chill out on that" only to post a long rambly diatribe in the very next thread. If you are setting off as many people as he has set off, there has to be something to it, and a normal person would look at that. But no. And then he'll light some people up again, and wrap it up with "Who? Me? Whatever do you mean?" He is a stealthy, sneaky form of a troll but a troll none the less.
I find it odd that you have chosen this thread, that post, me as the place to make a stand. Im 100% in the mix with this one, no denying it, but I'm a far cry from leading the charge. No matter. Damn rights I am villager with a torch, and will be as long as Frankenstein wants to keep crashing through the village. If I offend you, then I apologize, but I also suggest that maybe you should block me. I have no beef with you, still don't, but I dont see him changing, and I probably wont either. I may get to where I can ignore him, I may not. Fair enough. I can understand that position, and I wish you nothing but the best.
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yes. I stand corrected.
Interesting you should say that. In my 6 years here, ihave I ever said anything nasty, mean, or disrespectful about YOU? If so, please post up a link.
I highly doubt everyone here hates me though, cos in those 6 years I have given pretty freely of my time to members online and in-person, to work on their cars, give them a ride, go look at cars for out of town buyers, and even give them advice in my own personal field of expertise even though there's no possibility of profit. Hell, I drove the better part of a day in snow to meet one guy who was getting his first C63. I have GIVEN members car parts that I knew they needed, or sold them in turn for a donation to a charity, and driven those parts across the border an hour away in order to ship them. I have contributed to members charities and sent free gift cards to thank them for their contributions here and/or for helping me.
So if everyone here hates me, I'd be shocked. If you hate me, despite me doing nothing to you, I can't help that. If I bug people cos some guy bugs me, well then they have the same issue I do and shouldn't point fingers.
Anyways, have a great day.
Interesting you should say that. In my 6 years here, ihave I ever said anything nasty, mean, or disrespectful about YOU? If so, please post up a link.
I highly doubt everyone here hates me though, cos in those 6 years I have given pretty freely of my time to members online and in-person, to work on their cars, give them a ride, go look at cars for out of town buyers, and even give them advice in my own personal field of expertise even though there's no possibility of profit. Hell, I drove the better part of a day in snow to meet one guy who was getting his first C63. I have GIVEN members car parts that I knew they needed, or sold them in turn for a donation to a charity, and driven those parts across the border an hour away in order to ship them. I have contributed to members charities and sent free gift cards to thank them for their contributions here and/or for helping me.
So if everyone here hates me, I'd be shocked. If you hate me, despite me doing nothing to you, I can't help that. If I bug people cos some guy bugs me, well then they have the same issue I do and shouldn't point fingers.
Anyways, have a great day.
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[QUOTE=604 C63;7167391][QUOTE=BadCompany;7167322]Pretty sure you mean Frankenstein's monster.
yes. I stand corrected.
Interesting you should say that. In my 6 years here, ihave I ever said anything nasty, mean, or disrespectful about YOU? If so, please post up a link.
I highly doubt everyone here hates me though, cos in those 6 years I have given pretty freely of my time to members online and in-person, to work on their cars, give them a ride, go look at cars for out of town buyers, and even give them advice in my own personal field of expertise even though there's no possibility of profit. Hell, I drove the better part of a day in snow to meet one guy who was getting his first C63. I have GIVEN members car parts that I knew they needed, or sold them in turn for a donation to a charity, and driven those parts across the border an hour away in order to ship them. I have contributed to members charities and sent free gift cards to thank them for their contributions here and/or for helping me.
So if everyone here hates me, I'd be shocked. If you hate me, despite me doing nothing to you, I can't help that. If I bug people cos some guy bugs me, well then they have the same issue I do and shouldn't point fingers.
Anyways, have a great day.
Whoa! I was totally kidding with you (I thought that my Frankenstein comment would have indicated that). I was only saying that tongue-in-cheek because you seem to be getting a lot of hate for little reason - hence the "everyone hates you because you can't even get the Frankenstein's monster thing right."
yes. I stand corrected.
Interesting you should say that. In my 6 years here, ihave I ever said anything nasty, mean, or disrespectful about YOU? If so, please post up a link.
I highly doubt everyone here hates me though, cos in those 6 years I have given pretty freely of my time to members online and in-person, to work on their cars, give them a ride, go look at cars for out of town buyers, and even give them advice in my own personal field of expertise even though there's no possibility of profit. Hell, I drove the better part of a day in snow to meet one guy who was getting his first C63. I have GIVEN members car parts that I knew they needed, or sold them in turn for a donation to a charity, and driven those parts across the border an hour away in order to ship them. I have contributed to members charities and sent free gift cards to thank them for their contributions here and/or for helping me.
So if everyone here hates me, I'd be shocked. If you hate me, despite me doing nothing to you, I can't help that. If I bug people cos some guy bugs me, well then they have the same issue I do and shouldn't point fingers.
Anyways, have a great day.
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[QUOTE=BadCompany;7167395][QUOTE=604 C63;7167391]
gotcha. Thank you for saying so. That possibility occurred to me right after I pressed send LOL. It's true that "The Octagon" is getting inside my head a little bit lately, and I've had a couple people blindside me just today. I've worked hard to not get into the mix with most members here, like yourself, so again, thank you for clarifying.
Pretty sure you mean Frankenstein's monster.
Whoa! I was totally kidding with you (I thought that my Frankenstein comment would have indicated that). I was only saying that tongue-in-cheek because you seem to be getting a lot of hate for little reason - hence the "everyone hates you because you can't even get the Frankenstein's monster thing right."
Whoa! I was totally kidding with you (I thought that my Frankenstein comment would have indicated that). I was only saying that tongue-in-cheek because you seem to be getting a lot of hate for little reason - hence the "everyone hates you because you can't even get the Frankenstein's monster thing right."
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[QUOTE=604 C63;7167407][QUOTE=BadCompany;7167395]
gotcha. Thank you for saying so. That possibility occurred to me right after I pressed send LOL. It's true that "The Octagon" is getting inside my head a little bit lately, and I've had a couple people blindside me just today. I've worked hard to not get into the mix with most members here, like yourself, so again, thank you for clarifying.
You still be a cool dude with me D.
gotcha. Thank you for saying so. That possibility occurred to me right after I pressed send LOL. It's true that "The Octagon" is getting inside my head a little bit lately, and I've had a couple people blindside me just today. I've worked hard to not get into the mix with most members here, like yourself, so again, thank you for clarifying.
