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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 02:19 PM
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the noise in the video is that of a cam adjuster. all brands and engines that have adjustable cam gears sound the same when they get some miles on them. doesn't mean they aren't functioning correctly just that there is some miles and usage on them. when they get loud or not sweeping correctly thus throwing a code is when they need replacing.
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 02:40 PM
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the noise in the video is that of a cam adjuster. all brands and engines that have adjustable cam gears sound the same when they get some miles on them. doesn't mean they aren't functioning correctly just that there is some miles and usage on them. when they get loud or not sweeping correctly thus throwing a code is when they need replacing.

here is photo from internet, by which part of cam adjuster it make that sound? on engine ON they full of oil and it's oil pressure not give them to make any noise, if there is no oil pressure, engine become noise like a hell and no power etc

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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 04:00 PM
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I think it’s the round metal part that makes the noise
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKROKT
I think it’s the round metal part that makes the noise
it's touching with crank sensors, if there is anything wrong even in normal wide values it can be detect by star diagnosis but there is nothing
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 04:03 PM
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main and the most valueble question, why it's comming only on hot engine, nothing on cold, absolutely
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Old Dec 21, 2019 | 12:07 AM
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Do the replacement lifters come with a larger hole at the top?
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Old Dec 21, 2019 | 10:48 AM
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Do the replacement lifters come with a larger hole at the top?
You mean the oil gallery on the side? There are no holes on the top of the lifter.



Tasos uploaded a couple decent vids recently.


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Old Dec 21, 2019 | 12:16 PM
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Ah, thought they might be similar to some other lifters, like these:



Solution to the tapping was increasing the hole size so that more oil could get in (pictured with larger holes). These are much different though.
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Old Dec 21, 2019 | 01:46 PM
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The lifters have holes on the sides. The Tasos video from the other day showed that soaking them in oil does nothing. You have to pump them full of oil right before installing.
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Old Dec 21, 2019 | 01:58 PM
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I think it's somewhat of a bad design in general then (I'll be honest haven't read most of the lifter threads) I wonder if larger holes in the sides will help then.
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Old Dec 21, 2019 | 02:47 PM
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Here is my videos
1st: engine 65 degreese celsium, no sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5a1DzbSFlI

2nd: engine 70 degreese lot of sound

I asked benz dealer about it, they said only oppening will help to determined, no guessing
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Old Dec 21, 2019 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Viktori
Here is my videos
1st: engine 65 degreese celsium, no sound

2nd: engine 70 degreese lot of sound

I asked benz dealer about it, they said only oppening will help to determined, no guessing
That's just the CAs. They start to get noisy over time, don't worry about it.
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Old Dec 22, 2019 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Jasonoff
That's just the CAs. They start to get noisy over time, don't worry about it.
what is CA? cam adjusters? there is not big deal in that sound, but if I will want to sell car, it will be hard with that noise

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Old Dec 22, 2019 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Viktori
what is CA? cam adjusters? there is not big deal in that sound, but if I will want to sell car, it will be hard with that noise
It's a normal noise. Spend 2-3k to replace all the CAs (Cam Adjusters) when you sell if you think it will hurt resale.
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Old Dec 22, 2019 | 08:53 AM
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It's a normal noise. Spend 2-3k to replace all the CAs (Cam Adjusters) when you sell if you think it will hurt resale.
I can spent 800$ for 4 plates, or 200$ for plates from factory turner, but noise not from plates, there is no rattles on cold, what part of ca cause that noise?
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Old Sep 11, 2020 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Viktori
Here is my videos
1st: engine 65 degreese celsium, no sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5a1DzbSFlI

2nd: engine 70 degreese lot of sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ny2V0mDGWc

I asked benz dealer about it, they said only oppening will help to determined, no guessing

Now that I read this, funny. My 09e63 has this same behavior. No noise when cold, but has this same noise when warm. Viktori, did you ever figure anything out with this?
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Old Sep 11, 2020 | 07:09 AM
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nope, it's still there, soon I will replace lifters to black series one and will report if it fix problem, also I have inno lifters intalled, which is not mercedes marked
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Old Sep 11, 2020 | 08:52 AM
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nope, it's still there, soon I will replace lifters to black series one and will report if it fix problem, also I have inno lifters intalled, which is not mercedes marked
Hmm... don’t know if it’s really related to the lifter. Have you thought about the cam adjuster not locking completely? There is a video from Tasos that has him put a wrench to it to check. You can tell right away.
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Old Sep 11, 2020 | 12:04 PM
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Hmm... don’t know if it’s really related to the lifter. Have you thought about the cam adjuster not locking completely? There is a video from Tasos that has him put a wrench to it to check. You can tell right away.
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Old Sep 11, 2020 | 05:50 PM
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Old Sep 11, 2020 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Viktori
I can spent 800$ for 4 plates, or 200$ for plates from factory turner, but noise not from plates, there is no rattles on cold, what part of ca cause that noise?
From your second video it sounds like mine did before I replaced all my lifters (with Inno brand, FCP euro) and did the Tasos pin flip om my CA base plates.
My CA noise was louder than yours but I also had lifter ticking around the middle of the left bank.
All my plates have signs of wear but the pin flip must have worked as they are now quiet 14 months and 7,000klm on.
Used Liqui Moly 5w40 and Ceratec after the change was done and my last oil change used same oil but with MOS2 added.
No ticking so far.
Btw people have reported that they replaced all 4 CA's at stealers and still had the ticking.
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Originally Posted by Viktori
nope, it's still there, soon I will replace lifters to black series one and will report if it fix problem, also I have inno lifters intalled, which is not mercedes marked
problem not fixed and it become even worst
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Old Sep 19, 2020 | 05:29 PM
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I hear a lot of reports about ticking lifters and noisy cam adjusters here. My 2010 C63 doesnt have any of that at 41k miles. Currently running Motul 8100 5w40.

Aside from the noisy, is there any chance of catastrophic failure or engine damage associated with the noisy lifters and cams? If its just the noise, it sucks but it's livable.
My fear is that this could end up being an expensive repair bill, like broken head bolts.

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Old Sep 25, 2020 | 04:17 PM
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ok, problem found and fixed, thats crazy, but it's temp oil sensor beru st011, I have a problem with fuel pressure CHECK ENGINE light on, it's like problem which nobody can fix, but on one forum I found info about temp oil sensor replacement will help,
and it fixed also problem with slapping somehow. Also it's not lifters, it's chain slapping.
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Viktori, how did you diagnose the chain slapping and have you identified a fix?
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