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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 04:57 PM
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A C63 is roughly 8x the car of a C350. No offense at all, but to say it's not THAT much better, is like saying a Bentley Mulsanne is not THAT much better than an S550...
It really isn't that much better than a C350. In a straight line, it would leave the C350 in the dust. However, it still shares the same chassis, same interior, and same transmission, albeit with a single clutch. Shift times are marginally improved over a C350 with DHP, and suspension and steering components are simply strengthened and stiffened. The C63 is actually heavier due to the larger engine, so on a track, it is not "8x" the car of a C350. I'm not saying the changes are not significant, but I'm stating that the upgrade is simply not worth switching from a newer C350 to an older C63.

Be satisfied with your C350, and when the time comes, upgrade to a Porsche. Much smarter decision than spending a huge portion of your income on a car and leaving no money to save for investments. Just my 2 cents.
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It really isn't that much better than a C350. In a straight line, it would leave the C350 in the dust. However, it still shares the same chassis, same interior, and same transmission, albeit with a single clutch. Shift times are marginally improved over a C350 with DHP, and suspension and steering components are simply strengthened and stiffened. The C63 is actually heavier due to the larger engine, so on a track, it is not "8x" the car of a C350. I'm not saying the changes are not significant, but I'm stating that the upgrade is simply not worth switching from a newer C350 to an older C63.

Be satisfied with your C350, and when the time comes, upgrade to a Porsche. Much smarter decision than spending a huge portion of your income on a car and leaving no money to save for investments. Just my 2 cents.
Other than Brembo 6/4 pot brakes, a 6.2L V8 engine, transmission tuning (that is not single clutch), limited slip differential, best in class AMG seats, wider body panels and bumpers, quicker steering rack, completely different AMG suspension, and longer front end, yup, I would agree that the car is very similar to a C350.

I do agree with you though, that spending a huge part of your income on a car is a bad idea.
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AMG3.2
Other than Brembo 6/4 pot brakes, a 6.2L V8 engine, transmission tuning (that is not single clutch), limited slip differential, best in class AMG seats, wider body panels and bumpers, quicker steering rack, completely different AMG suspension, and longer front end, yup, I would agree that the car is very similar to a C350.

I do agree with you though, that spending a huge part of your income on a car is a bad idea.
Well if you've got the money and budget to buy a C63, then by all means, I'm not telling you to stick with a C350. But in OP's case, it is not worth pouring all your money for a C63, when maybe later you can upgrade to something much better than a C63.

Sure, the C63 is a great car, but it isn't "great" enough to make me pour my life savings into it, especially when I already have a Mercedes, let alone a C350. Just different perspective I guess.
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by bowenxue98
It really isn't that much better than a C350. In a straight line, it would leave the C350 in the dust. However, it still shares the same chassis, same interior, and same transmission, albeit with a single clutch. Shift times are marginally improved over a C350 with DHP, and suspension and steering components are simply strengthened and stiffened. The C63 is actually heavier due to the larger engine, so on a track, it is not "8x" the car of a C350. I'm not saying the changes are not significant, but I'm stating that the upgrade is simply not worth switching from a newer C350 to an older C63.

Be satisfied with your C350, and when the time comes, upgrade to a Porsche. Much smarter decision than spending a huge portion of your income on a car and leaving no money to save for investments. Just my 2 cents.
Im sorry but this is what someone tells themselves to make them feel better that they don’t have a c63. It is a compleatly different driving experience all together. To say it isn’t much better, you don’t own one. Clearly you wish you had one if you are on this c63 W204 forum. The c350 is a nice car but it can’t hold a candle to a c63.
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bowenxue98
I wouldn't recommend upgrading to the C63. It's just not a smart financial decision, and its not THAT much better than the C350. I'm in the same situation as you, stuck with a slower C350 or I can choose the option of upgrading to an older C63. But I'd rather wait and save up, and buy something that doesn't depreciate as fast as the recent crypto market :O

I'm planning to save up and build my career and hopefully after I graduate I can afford a much better car than a C63, possibly an used Porsche Cayman S. :P

Out of curiosity what is your background?
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 09:18 PM
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Old Apr 11, 2018 | 01:39 AM
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Dude seriously a c350 isn't even worth mentioning. If you've never had a C63 why are you guys giving your opinion like its valid. And enough of all you guys who dont even own a c63 creating profiles and clogging up forums with stupid questions. Come back when you guys buy the car. Till then, like 50 said.....
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Old Apr 11, 2018 | 01:40 AM
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Old Apr 11, 2018 | 10:01 AM
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Old Apr 11, 2018 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by AMG3.2
Other than Brembo 6/4 pot brakes, a 6.2L V8 engine, transmission tuning (that is not single clutch), limited slip differential, best in class AMG seats, wider body panels and bumpers, quicker steering rack, completely different AMG suspension, and longer front end, yup, I would agree that the car is very similar to a C350.

I do agree with you though, that spending a huge part of your income on a car is a bad idea.


I wouldn't compare a regular W204 to a C63.. very different animals (I have both). The steering feel alone makes both models incomparable. That being said, I would not buy a C63 at the age of 19 unless you're unusually well seated financially. Insurance will be high, fuel costs are high, maintenance costs can be high. On top of that, I've never seen a combination of high powered cars and drivers with less experience end well.. Not that I'm passing judgement, I'm pretty much speaking for myself. I wouldn't have trusted 19 year old me with a 450hp+ car. Pretty sure the only reason I've never had any accidents is because I drove a base model 8th generation civic for the first 4 years of having my license.
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Old Apr 11, 2018 | 11:32 AM
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Are you driving since 16 or since 18?

I´m 44, own a C63 for 2 years now (after a 335i). It´s easy to get in trouble when you have huge torque and RWD... I´d be concerned with my boy driving it... Don´t know how good driver you are, but you are probably not enough experienced ... just be carefull and do not turn stability control off.
And, as with ANY other car, don´t ever drink and drive... don´t ever street race.

Enjoy this monster car! I wish I could have had one this young... wow, congrats!!! Well, now I´d be happy with something like a Chiron, which a can´t afford, lol.
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Old Apr 11, 2018 | 01:25 PM
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I wouldn't compare a regular W204 to a C63.. very different animals (I have both). The steering feel alone makes both models incomparable. That being said, I would not buy a C63 at the age of 19 unless you're unusually well seated financially. Insurance will be high, fuel costs are high, maintenance costs can be high. On top of that, I've never seen a combination of high powered cars and drivers with less experience end well.. Not that I'm passing judgement, I'm pretty much speaking for myself. I wouldn't have trusted 19 year old me with a 450hp+ car. Pretty sure the only reason I've never had any accidents is because I drove a base model 8th generation civic for the first 4 years of having my license.
Guys, I'm not saying the C350 comes close to a C63 in terms of performance. I'm just stating that the increase in performance is not worth spending the large percentage of your savings into it. I've been to several track days and the group I go with have all sorts of performance cars. Two of my friends has a Porsche 911 and a C63. What I'm saying is C63 >> C350 but Porsche >>>> C63. If you save up and invest your money, you'll be able to afford a Porsche, hopefully. If you spend it all on a C63 now, you'll never be able to afford the Porsche.

At the end of the day, get what you want. Its your money.
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Old Apr 11, 2018 | 01:31 PM
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$4k a month (post tax) is really great for your age but I wouldn’t do it unless your parents are rich. I made 4k a month when I graduated university and I can’t imagine owning a c63 on that kind of income.

I think you should take home closr to 5 figures a month before this car can be comfortably fit into a budget. Unless you’re okay with spending 1/4 to 1/2 your net income on car payments + gas + insurance + tires + oil changes + fluids etc...

I would budget 1k/month for the car, and that is without car payments.

I wouldn’t do it at your age. Build your equity for the future my man

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Old Apr 11, 2018 | 01:33 PM
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Guys, I'm not saying the C350 comes close to a C63 in terms of performance. I'm just stating that the increase in performance is not worth spending the large percentage of your savings into it. I've been to several track days and the group I go with have all sorts of performance cars. Two of my friends has a Porsche 911 and a C63. What I'm saying is C63 >> C350 but Porsche >>>> C63. If you save up and invest your money, you'll be able to afford a Porsche, hopefully. If you spend it all on a C63 now, you'll never be able to afford the Porsche.

At the end of the day, get what you want. Its your money.
Well, a 2012 C63 (w/ or w/o P30) is faster than a 2012 911 7MT. The PDK is faster, thou (4.6s 0-60 drops to 3.0s).

So Porsche 911 performance is not at all >>>> C63.
C63 > 911 7MT
911 PDK > C63

At least in straight line. Add curves, and 911 gets better.
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Old Apr 11, 2018 | 01:35 PM
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Well, a 2012 C63 (w/ or w/o P30) is faster than a 2012 911 7MT. The PDK is faster, thou (4.6s 0-60 drops to 3.0s).

So Porsche 911 performance is not at all >>>> C63.
C63 > 911 7MT
911 PDK > C63

At least in straight line. Add curves, and 911 gets better.
No, not talking about straight line. Where's the fun in drag racing stock cars?
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Old Apr 11, 2018 | 02:27 PM
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Guys, I'm not saying the C350 comes close to a C63 in terms of performance. I'm just stating that the increase in performance is not worth spending the large percentage of your savings into it. I've been to several track days and the group I go with have all sorts of performance cars. Two of my friends has a Porsche 911 and a C63. What I'm saying is C63 >> C350 but Porsche >>>> C63. If you save up and invest your money, you'll be able to afford a Porsche, hopefully. If you spend it all on a C63 now, you'll never be able to afford the Porsche.

At the end of the day, get what you want. Its your money.
In OP's specific case, I agree with you that he should not be purchasing the C63. However, I could not disagree more with your statement that the jump from C350 to C63 is not worth the additional cost. If you're stating that as a blanket statement, we'll just have to greatly agree to disagree.

Also, if OP can buy a C63 at a relatively young age without committing financial suicide, there's no reason he can't purchase both a C63 by 24 years of age and Porsche down the road... I bought my C63 for cash at 23, and there's no reason I can't have a Porsche 911 down the road... So again, not sure why you're saying that if you buy a C63 now, you can't have a Porsche later....

OP - buy a clean E46 M3 and call it a day.
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Old Apr 11, 2018 | 02:34 PM
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In OP's specific case, I agree with you that he should not be purchasing the C63. However, I could not disagree more with your statement that the jump from C350 to C63 is not worth the additional cost. If you're stating that as a blanket statement, we'll just have to greatly agree to disagree.

Also, if OP can buy a C63 at a relatively young age without committing financial suicide, there's no reason he can't purchase both a C63 by 24 years of age and Porsche down the road... I bought my C63 for cash at 23, and there's no reason I can't have a Porsche 911 down the road... So again, not sure why you're saying that if you buy a C63 now, you can't have a Porsche later....

OP - buy a clean E46 M3 and call it a day.
The only way buying sports cars such as these at 19YO is not financial suicide is if OP has loaded parents, bought cryptos 3 years ago, or who knows.
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Old Apr 11, 2018 | 02:51 PM
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Sounds like you should of bought the C63 over the C350 in the first place. To be honest I would not bother. You have a car near paid off why not keep it? To get a C63 would be a jump in price. Better off driving the C350 and then maybe buying a last year model (2014 C63) in a couple years down the road. Or like some said buy the C63 later and keep the C350?
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Old Apr 12, 2018 | 04:16 AM
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Guys, I'm not saying the C350 comes close to a C63 in terms of performance. I'm just stating that the increase in performance is not worth spending the large percentage of your savings into it. I've been to several track days and the group I go with have all sorts of performance cars. Two of my friends has a Porsche 911 and a C63. What I'm saying is C63 >> C350 but Porsche >>>> C63. If you save up and invest your money, you'll be able to afford a Porsche, hopefully. If you spend it all on a C63 now, you'll never be able to afford the Porsche.

At the end of the day, get what you want. Its your money.
a few people track their c63
i have and on the track I absolutely whipped everything only Porsche I’ve had give me trouble was a 911 turbo so yeah if you’re going to spend double the amount or more on a Porsche turbo then you may have a better car but the poor mans porsches no chance
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After reading this thread, I felt that I had to give my .02. I was in this exact situation last year. I am 19 as well and bought a 2014 c63 coupe in December. All I can say is that it was the best decision i have ever made. My previous car was a 2014 c350 coupe. While it was a nice car, once you drive a c63, a c350 will be a joke. It is a totally different feel. The driving feel is 15x better, the sound is spectacular, and overall the car just feels more put together than a c350. Don't get me wrong, I loved my c350 and it was a great car... but to say that a C63 "really isn't that much better than a C350" is ludicrous. If you were blindfolded and driven in both cars, you would think you are in two drastically different cars. If you can afford it and still feel comfortable financially, GO FOR IT!!! Felt the need to give my opinion since I was in your very shoes just a few months ago. Good luck!
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After reading this thread, I felt that I had to give my .02. I was in this exact situation last year. I am 19 as well and bought a 2014 c63 coupe in December. All I can say is that it was the best decision i have ever made. My previous car was a 2014 c350 coupe. While it was a nice car, once you drive a c63, a c350 will be a joke. It is a totally different feel. The driving feel is 15x better, the sound is spectacular, and overall the car just feels more put together than a c350. Don't get me wrong, I loved my c350 and it was a great car... but to say that a C63 "really isn't that much better than a C350" is ludicrous. If you were blindfolded and driven in both cars, you would think you are in two drastically different cars. If you can afford it and still feel comfortable financially, GO FOR IT!!! Felt the need to give my opinion since I was in your very shoes just a few months ago. Good luck!
So net, we can approximate that a C63 is roughly 8-15x better than a C350.
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So net, we can approximate that a C63 is roughly 8-15x better than a C350.
Just remember, if you get the C63 now, you can’t get the Porsche later.
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