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From what I've read on various threads, it looks like you would unplug the 3.5" plug from the USB thing and plug it into your AUX AUDIO IN port. On my 2013 model, this is in the compartment in between the front seats. You should be able to run the cable under the console. So when you want to listen to Navigation commands (or anything else coming out of the Android device) you would switch to AUX input. The rest of the time you would still have music from the original system and whatever vision you want on thew Android device.
That's what I'm thinking, but the other stereos have the aux cable plug coming off the marked aux rca connectors.
I connected it all up today and can't get it to turn on. There's a jumper switch on the box which when I set it to 'on' a clock comes up on the new screen, but the unit is not starting up with the key acc positions.
There is a red aux power wire that might be the trigger for the unit to start, but everything else seems pretty well integrated so I'd be suprised if I have to do some wiring but I'll try that next.
there is nowhere to stuff the box behind the dash it'll have to go in glove box eventually
The actual screen itself is very well done. It fits on the outside of where the old one was and slides to the left and locks in place. Really hoping I can get it all to work!
Making progress The original screen is small and not centered and has artifact at the bottom. I also got it to switch to the android screen and connect to bluetooth.
My main issue now is that the radio / display powers off after about 1 minute.. Gotta figure that out next so I can work on the other stuff.
I'm curious about one thing...I was looking at my car yesterday and the space where that unit fits appears to be partially obstructed by the steering wheel when driving. I'm curious to see how it looks installed and if you can see the entire display when behind the wheel.
Possibly the far left corner. I think it's going to depend on things like how far back your seat is, your you're steering wheel height, ect.. Also the display is so wide and spread out I'm not sure how much of a inconvenience it's going to be. But I won't know for sure till I get everything working and back in place
FWIW the original gremlin I was chasing with the no power for 2 days was just the new connector not being plugged far enough into the back of the factory unit ��. I was looking at wiring diagrams and circuit testing connections for hours before I figured it out lol.
Possibly the far left corner. I think it's going to depend on things like how far back your seat is, your you're steering wheel height, ect.. Also the display is so wide and spread out I'm not sure how much of a inconvenience it's going to be. But I won't know for sure till I get everything working and back in place
FWIW the original gremlin I was chasing with the no power for 2 days was just the new connector not being plugged far enough ionto the back of the factory unit ��. I was looking at wiring diagrams and circuit testing connections for hours before I figured it out lol.
That’s a pain in the *** but happy you figured it out and that nothing was really broken.
Agree about seating position, wheel position etc. I’m short, I probably would suffer from more obstruction that someone taller.
So I worked on some last night. At one point I was about to throw the whole unit in the trash. At another point I was sure I had it all working and was about ready to install the whole thing in my my car and finish the install. Now I'm back in the middle
I got it set so the full Factory screen shows up on the entire Monitor and got Bluetooth music and call streaming to work on the new Android unit.
Now when I turn it back on today however one of the changes thst I did s making the Android screen come up but the factory stereo play so I got them disconnected. Dang it. Once I get the correct jumper switch positions on the boxes to work with our car it'll be perfectly easy for someone to buy the stereo just set the jumper switch to how I have them and it should work flawlessly
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it's just getting there...but honestly the big screen is so much nicer than the small one I might keep it just for the factory display if I never got the rest figured out 😊
I should note for those of us who have the HK and Amplified system you do not need one of the fiber optic to RCA boxes to make the stereo work. It hooks up pretty much in that aspect exactly like the 10.25 in Android widescreen. You do need a connetor that plugs into the box and runs to the AUX Jack in the middle of the car .
Sound quality, if you get the right balance between the factory volume and the volume on the Android system was pretty decent.
Okay I pretty much got everything working. Switching back and forth between both screens , streaming Spotify music from my phone to the Android unit, music playing from the original stereo,
, even tethered my phone to it so I could access the internet on the android system itself and it also has a function where you can mirror your Android phone screen onto the display. It apparently will not support playing music off of a iPod directly plugged into the USB However. I think my ipod has bluetooth so I should be able to do it that way.
so I'm going to go ahead and get the screen installed back and then work on putting the box unit in the glove box. Theres no room behind the dash at all. So then I can then at least drive the car and work at my own pace with getting the GPS maps, backup camera, Etc connected up. Will have to make a hole in the side of glove box for wiring to come through.
I wish it was a smaller footprint install size wise with the box and cables and all ( more like the 10.25 stick on screen) but it will look factory when done.
once I get everything done I'll let this rambling thread drop off and make a short more concise how to install /settings / etc one.
Here's a set of instructions to look at although it's for the pre facelift. Post is pretty much the same with different disassembly. This vendor took the time to help me with my issues even though I bought the stereo from another company (who spoke no english) and always returned daily email questions and types in good English! . He will sell it for 499 and will include the cable which I paid $60 extra to get from my vendor 😶 . He's on ebay but I don't know what price it's listed there.
Thanks for putting up the work on the install and issues faced.
The supplier you linked to is now at US$399 for an android 7.1 unit which is a much more modest price than CKMs US$749.00 (I have not checked carefully to see if there any any differences in product).
Thanks for putting up the work on the install and issues faced.
The supplier you linked to is now at US$399 for an android 7.1 unit which is a much more modest price than CKMs US$749.00 (I have not checked carefully to see if there any any differences in product).
Yep that is for the Pre-Facelift, not a bad price.
I just noticed that this version that Kavik is installing looks like it sits sunk into the dash like the stock screen. I would think that would make it difficult to reach the touch screen while driving.
The other version sold by CKM sits out away from the dash similar to the latest OEM screens which would make it easier to reach, unless you have freakishly long arms then it wouldn't matter LOL!!
The CKM unit sells for $599.00.
Last edited by JRHolt; 07-27-2018 at 01:02 PM.
Reason: Added price
I just noticed that this version that Kavik is installing looks like it sits sunk into the dash like the stock screen. I would think that would make it difficult to reach the touch screen while driving.
The other version sold by CKM sits out away from the dash similar to the latest OEM screens which would make it easier to reach, unless you have freakishly long arms then it wouldn't matter LOL!!
The CKM unit sells for $599.00.
Yes, two completely different units. The screen sizes are different (this is a little smaller than CKM's 10.25"), they mount in different places and the software that's installed to power the displays isn't the same either. Since they can both use the factory controls to control them, there should be no need to actually use the touch screen to do much in either instance.
I actually actually got everything to fit behind the dash, so only thing in the glove box is two of the three usb ends. Tight fit though. Just need to get trim on which is a PITA, not sure if its the display being large., but I may pop the display off, put on the trim, then put the display on
again. I just ran the other usb and the aux cable along the side of the center console for now, I will eventually open it up and run them properly.
I put the mic above the steering wheel, just kinda wedged it there, and the extra speaker in the netting by the pass floorboards. I installed the front half of a wireless receiver for a backup camera and tested it before I closed it up, It came on automatically when I shifted into reverse and the screen had the built in line grid on it.
Done for now!! just need to do the center cables under the center console. A few observations: The left side of display is a little blocked by the steering wheel, doesn't bother me, but might to some people. So far functionally, everything works, internet via tethering (wired or wireless), torque pro w/ OBD (downloaded from play store), backup camera, Bluetooth streaming music (spotify).... The box settings that worked fo me were switch 2 and 4 on, the others off. The original stereo screen/functions exactly like stock still. It's a touch distorted display wise, when it is converted from the original size to fill the new screen the very top edge is cut off a little. Using the touch screen is not as bad as I thought with the positioning. If I was going to be using it a lot or the passenger was going to be using it a lot (like on a family sedan instead of my play car) I would probably do the 10.25 "stick on" type screen. However for keeping the stock location, look and getting torque pro/internet I'm pretty happy. Makes the car seem a lot newer even though it is already a 2013! Fitment is good, and you can actually remove the screen once the install is done and get to the upper box without taking apart the dash or removing any trim, if you wanted to change something later or connect a dvd or something, Sound quality through the android system is good, there is a hum at high volumes sometimes, I will probably put a plug on noise filter on the aux port. As far as factory controls with the android screen, volume and switching tracks for music is supported on the steering wheel and the front stereo controls, but you cant use the center console turn wheel to move around the android screen, you have to use touch screen feature, Feel free to ask if you have any specific questions you want me to check, as I haven't played with all the features yet.
yeah but it looks crappy like you tapped an iPad to the dash not a fan
I'm not a big fan of the huge displays that look like they are an afterthought on any of the post W204 cars. Just ugly. Anyone know of a vendor making a replacement for the PFL Comand? It'd be nice to have car play or the GOOG version on the PFL cars. I'm pretty sure that monster display sittting where it is would be just aesthetically horrible imho.
I'm not a big fan of the huge displays that look like they are an afterthought on any of the post W204 cars. Just ugly. Anyone know of a vendor making a replacement for the PFL Comand? It'd be nice to have car play or the GOOG version on the PFL cars. I'm pretty sure that monster display sittting where it is would be just aesthetically horrible imho.
The same vendor makes a pre version, the instructions I linked to show that version, but I think it doesn't retract once installed.
"If your Mercedes Benz W204 comes with original 5.8 inch small screen and a working aux function, you can order and install this unit in your car, this head unit can also fit factory 7 inch screen w204 now."
But yes you are right it doesn't fold. But it's only 8" not that big 10"
07-23-2018, 06:45 PM
