New Billet camshaft for 156/159 video by Tasos
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This is a $10-15k job when it’s all said and done. Will want to replace lifters maybe with the SLS BS, stronger valve springs also from SLS, maybe do some head work or at least a valve job while it’s apart, replace cam adjusters, all seals gaskets and bearings, labor if you’re not doing it yourself, plus custom tuning. Unfortunately it’s not really “marginally” more than headers.
labor shouldnt be much more than headers either honestly you don’t need to pull the heads or anything to do cams... the tubing is apparently a biatch but I haven’t tuned a m156 so can’t confirm that.
Vrp you have a video you said of the clk with your cams, where can we view it? Do you have a dyno with it ?
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Our cams have been out for a while now
https://www.vrpspeed.com/product/vrp156camshafts/
https://www.vrpspeed.com/product/vrp156camshafts/
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This is a $10-15k job when it’s all said and done. Will want to replace lifters maybe with the SLS BS, stronger valve springs also from SLS, maybe do some head work or at least a valve job while it’s apart, replace cam adjusters, all seals gaskets and bearings, labor if you’re not doing it yourself, plus custom tuning. Unfortunately it’s not really “marginally” more than headers.
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What i dont understand is why wouldnt these have been tested already
I for 1 would not be running cams if they werent tried and tested and verified on the dyno
You must have good customers for them to be running untested cams
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I for 1 would not be running cams if they werent tried and tested and verified on the dyno
You must have good customers for them to be running untested cams
Scary
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Our cams have been out for a while now
https://www.vrpspeed.com/product/vrp156camshafts/
https://www.vrpspeed.com/product/vrp156camshafts/
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Flat Tappet Camshafts are inherently much easier to work with than a roller rocker. We would be in lying if we claimed we designed our camshafts in house. We are using one of the largest cam manufacturers in the country with a proven track record and millions of dollars in machinery.
Our initial Camshaft offering was a Factory Camshaft with Added Lift. However its other Benefit is being Hard welded giving it a durability advantage over factory camshafts.
@mr747 Does your Fear have any basis? or just the Idea that untested cams means engine failure? How do you think cams get tested? on a bench? Yes, we have Thousands of Loyal customers, some happily torture test our products in exchange for discounts and to progress the platform. the 55 Community is a bad *** group. The 63 156 guys seem to just complain.
I have considered pulling all of our 156 development projects Including the twin turbo kit and putting our resources into more 157 mods.Try being a little less cynical and a little more productive. Constructive conversation will get everyone a lot further than skeptical negativity.
We have our first set of ported heads going on an e63 in the next month aswell.
Our initial Camshaft offering was a Factory Camshaft with Added Lift. However its other Benefit is being Hard welded giving it a durability advantage over factory camshafts.
@mr747 Does your Fear have any basis? or just the Idea that untested cams means engine failure? How do you think cams get tested? on a bench? Yes, we have Thousands of Loyal customers, some happily torture test our products in exchange for discounts and to progress the platform. the 55 Community is a bad *** group. The 63 156 guys seem to just complain.
I have considered pulling all of our 156 development projects Including the twin turbo kit and putting our resources into more 157 mods.Try being a little less cynical and a little more productive. Constructive conversation will get everyone a lot further than skeptical negativity. We have our first set of ported heads going on an e63 in the next month aswell.
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It’s hard to gain power on cams without giving up idle quality. Look at DADSC63 cams. I’ve spoken to Keith and he told me the idle was severely changed. Race car application. He gained 40 whp n/a on these sticks. These are hard cam profiles to make better from OEM without sacrificing an aspect of the drivability. Yes you can make power on cams with this car. It’s been done. But for the cost vs output a supercharger is the way to go. Time will tell what Tasos cams put out.
Yeah, I think for lots of sets to sell, aftermarket cams for this platform need to show improvement in power from simply just dropping them in and then more gains, once tuned. All of the associated install costs are off-putting for most M156 owners and then having to roll the dice on a custom cam tune is a bit meh and only for the die hard fans...of which how many are really out there for this platform now?
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Truthfully not many, This is what is really hurting the 156 platform. We sell cams for 55k cars on a weekly basis. That platform has exploded. and everyone wants every HP possible. But we are working on a few things that will drop costs for 156 owners, and hopefully spark some deeper interest.
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Thats because Weistec kits are well documented and he does maintenance work like the pin flip trick. He did state that the first thing he’ll do is run the cams and see gains and run it on the Dyno.
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Truthfully not many, This is what is really hurting the 156 platform. We sell cams for 55k cars on a weekly basis. That platform has exploded. and everyone wants every HP possible. But we are working on a few things that will drop costs for 156 owners, and hopefully spark some deeper interest.
Any sound clips with them idling and revving.
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Something like the scoops on the e55 but bigger and have it like a built intake to go from the front radiator to the air boxes.
There is plenty of room there if we take the top plastic off the top of the radiator.
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I forgot to take a pic of the dyno screen when i was at Eurocharged Canada. I asked them to send me the file.
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Race car application....? I gained 40hp with my Kleemann cams after tuning and the idle was fine...infact, idle was fine throughout my entire time with the cams even on stock and rubbish EC tunes. The beauty of VVT is that you can enjoy a smooth idle, good economy at low rpm, good response at the middle of the powerband and then optimising for the most power at WOT. I've got beefy cams on two other cars of mine with VVT and they both have a compliant idle.
Yeah, I think for lots of sets to sell, aftermarket cams for this platform need to show improvement in power from simply just dropping them in and then more gains, once tuned. All of the associated install costs are off-putting for most M156 owners and then having to roll the dice on a custom cam tune is a bit meh and only for the die hard fans...of which how many are really out there for this platform now?
Yeah, I think for lots of sets to sell, aftermarket cams for this platform need to show improvement in power from simply just dropping them in and then more gains, once tuned. All of the associated install costs are off-putting for most M156 owners and then having to roll the dice on a custom cam tune is a bit meh and only for the die hard fans...of which how many are really out there for this platform now?
Dadsc63’s cams had .500 lift that would severely affect the stock idle. Mhp had 3 different grinds. Even weistec said that the cams that make power are for of a race car and more of tuning headache. I don’t mind the tuning part since I’m using HPTuners like you suggested.
The kleemann cams are sls style grind. I have email to confirm if you’d like to see.
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