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Old 06-03-2020, 01:56 AM
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Is it just me or did BMW just dug themselves a large hole to die in? Whoever signed off on that front end design should be fired.

Do you ever see AMG making radical design change with their C Class line up? (And I’m not talking about the rumored 4 cylinder engine C63)


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It's like someone described a BMW to some Chinese designer.
Care to elaborate on your Chinese designer comment? Not sure what you mean by that. Are you saying Chinese people are not capable of designing things?
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Care to elaborate on your Chinese designer comment? Not sure what you mean by that. Are you saying Chinese people are not capable of designing things?
Capable? Sure. Do they? Chinese are famous for imitating and copying. They do it better than anyone.
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I have bought a lot of BMW's in the past (9 or 10) many of them being 3 series cars and I currently have a 3 series and both my sons have older ones and that face makes me run away from the brand, that is a face only a mother could love. Hopefully sales reflect that and it goes away fast. They have already backed away from the look stating that other models won't get it as they want each model to look unique (which is just a way of saying we are not going to do that to any other models!). Makes the Bangle butt that Chris Bangle designed for the early 2000's 7 series not the worst thing BMW has done lately.

The one in the first post looks a bit better than this one - the base model is even more hideous!



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Don't care for it either, but it doesn't seem to matter anyway. So many maker are designing uglier cars and yet they still sell. This will likely sell too.

The license plate holder...ugh!
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Care to elaborate on your Chinese designer comment? Not sure what you mean by that. Are you saying Chinese people are not capable of designing things?
It's an ESL comment. Provide instructions in English to someone who doesn't speak it natively and the results may vary...
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Is it just me or did BMW just dug themselves a large hole to die in? Whoever signed off on that front end design should be fired.

Do you ever see AMG making radical design change with their C Class line up? (And I’m not talking about the rumored 4 cylinder engine C63)
AMG abandoning a V8 in a key enthusiast platform is worse than BMW's new bucktooth grill styling, IMHO.
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AMG abandoning a V8 in a key enthusiast platform is worse than BMW's new bucktooth grill styling, IMHO.
I was afraid someone would say that. I hate that we could potentially never see C63 w a V8 again.

Let me ask you this, If you had your pick, which one would you take home?

W206 C63s sedan/coupe w an out of place 4 cylinder backed w electric motors.
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M3/M4 w that large grille and lawn mower sounding inline 6
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Originally Posted by SEAMG
I was afraid someone would say that. I hate that we could potentially never see C63 w a V8 again.

Let me ask you this, If you had your pick, which one would you take home?

W206 C63s sedan/coupe w an out of place 4 cylinder backed w electric motors.
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M3/M4 w that large grille and lawn mower sounding inline 6
Might have to go look at an RS5 at that point!
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Might have to go look at an RS5 at that point!
You didn't answer the question. We would all jump ship at that point.
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You didn't answer the question. We would all jump ship at that point.
Would be hard decision for sure, part of the reason I did the C63 over an M3 was the sound and going to a 4 means that part of the experience is gone, really best thing to do with a 4 banger is try to hide the sound and the vibration and having driven a C300 loaner they don't do a good job hiding the terrible sound, CLA45 sounds ok at high revs, still sounds pretty bad down low. The M3/4 sounds pretty crap also but can sound better with a good exhaust, but not sure I could be seen driving it with that hideous face. Unfortunately with new Euro emissions requirements BMW may go back to a 4 cylinder also, but at some point we are all going to have to get used to now much sound with Euro requirements and everything going electric, power is no problem, but the soundtrack missing is going to be the most disappointing part.
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I was afraid someone would say that. I hate that we could potentially never see C63 w a V8 again.

Let me ask you this, If you had your pick, which one would you take home?

W206 C63s sedan/coupe w an out of place 4 cylinder backed w electric motors.
or
M3/M4 w that large grille and lawn mower sounding inline 6
If it gets to that stage, im jumping back on the pushbike and sticking a playing card in the spokes
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Originally Posted by SEAMG
I was afraid someone would say that. I hate that we could potentially never see C63 w a V8 again.

Let me ask you this, If you had your pick, which one would you take home?

W206 C63s sedan/coupe w an out of place 4 cylinder backed w electric motors.
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M3/M4 w that large grille and lawn mower sounding inline 6
Instinctive outrage aside, I would drive both and compare. Until then and on paper, an M4 w/ an incredible straight six and a manual sounds more appealing to me.
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Instinctive outrage aside, I would drive both and compare. Until then and on paper, an M4 w/ an incredible straight six and a manual sounds more appealing to me.
This. 100%.
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My son has the M4 with a freakishly obnoxious aftermarket exhaust and a burble tune... it's frankly hideous sounding.

That said, he walked the dog on me off the line but I caught him at the 1M mark.

If I can't get a Euro V8, then there is always American muscle. Shelby GT maybe?

EDIT: and, no, I would not allow myself to be buried in that new BMW monstrocity... it's horrid.
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Here is where I stand if I absolutely had to pick, AMG 4 - 2 BMW

Exterior - AMG wins. (I'm a fan of how BMW widens their fenders enough to fit wider track tires, great for an aggressive look, traction and handling, but BMW's large grille lost them this one)
Interior - AMG wins.
Sound - AMG wins. (Arguable because we haven't heard the 4 cylinder yet, but would put money on the line, anything sounds better than M3/M4 even with an upgraded exhaust.)
Engine - BMW wins. (BMW inline 6 has the pedigree and comes with a history vs the a a newer 4 cylinder engine)
Performance - Tie.

The perfect car in my mind is an F80 M3 for sedan or W205 C63s AMG Coupe with a M156 V8 with hybrid technology out the factory (great for sound, power and fuel economy), an 4WD with optional drift mode, and AMG interior. Call me crazy but that I would call it Frankenstein.

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