M156 engine swaps
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hello everyone see this is an older thread few month back but just purchased a 2011 Mercedes e63 with a blown motor and a project car, been looking around and found a 2013 c63 motor considering to purchase the gentleman selling it swares it will fit my car, but wanna confirm it 100% anyone can help?
did a little cross-reference on parts the cams, oil filter, belt drive, sparks, coils and transmount is the same the only different part I'm getting is motor mounts
did a little cross-reference on parts the cams, oil filter, belt drive, sparks, coils and transmount is the same the only different part I'm getting is motor mounts
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2007 E63
Yes it will fit. There may be some minor changes to the harness plugs, but easy to do with having two harnesses to use. I just had a 2012 C63 engine swapped into mine and it was a straight-forward affair. My prior engine had hydrolocked after a catastrophic head bolt failure. 20L of coolant was drained from the sump :P
I am very happy with the new motor; as the black rocker cover motors had all revised head bolts, camshafts and adjusters to remedy the prior faults on the early run of these engines (white rocker cover motors).
Mine is now tuned with full headers + hi flow cats + x-over straight pipes and putting out over 315kw/420hp at the rear wheels now. Very fun to drive!
I am very happy with the new motor; as the black rocker cover motors had all revised head bolts, camshafts and adjusters to remedy the prior faults on the early run of these engines (white rocker cover motors).
Mine is now tuned with full headers + hi flow cats + x-over straight pipes and putting out over 315kw/420hp at the rear wheels now. Very fun to drive!
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11’ C63 AMG; D2 Audi A8; 15’ Golf TDi; 97’ F350PSD; B6 Audi S4; D1 Audi V8; A2 VW GTi
Weistec stocks/resells OE Mercedes lifters. The only non-OE Mercedes option I ever came across are INA lifters, which is the company that manufactures them for Mercedes. AFAIK, there is no aftermarket option for lifters and I can't imagine why anyone would ever bother with one in the first place.
Im late to the party here, but the company that starts with a W marks their **** up at least 3-400% in most cases. RM Auto (google the lifter part number they will show up) sells the updated M159 lifters for $7 and change each.
not the $20 and change that MB and the W company charges.
EDIT: I’m sorry, 999.99 /32 = $31.24 EACH!!!!
Error 404: Math not found.
Yes, INA is the OE supplier of these lifters to MB and they are identical to the parts branded as MB.
Myself and another member located the ARP hardware that they sell for north of $500 (big surprise) to hold the cam caps and phasers on for a little more than 1/3 what they were charging direct from ARP.
I wouldn’t buy anything from them until they take a reality check.
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e63 w212
great thanks for the update i heard even the early blk cover motors still have issues with the headbolts... any idea how we exact check the numbers?
sounds great i wanna order a set of headers also , i want the power dont dont wanna get the exhaust raspy or even a loud drone. what stuff did u buy and install
thanks
sounds great i wanna order a set of headers also , i want the power dont dont wanna get the exhaust raspy or even a loud drone. what stuff did u buy and install
thanks
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11’ C63 AMG; D2 Audi A8; 15’ Golf TDi; 97’ F350PSD; B6 Audi S4; D1 Audi V8; A2 VW GTi
great thanks for the update i heard even the early blk cover motors still have issues with the headbolts... any idea how we exact check the numbers?
sounds great i wanna order a set of headers also , i want the power dont dont wanna get the exhaust raspy or even a loud drone. what stuff did u buy and install
thanks
sounds great i wanna order a set of headers also , i want the power dont dont wanna get the exhaust raspy or even a loud drone. what stuff did u buy and install
thanks
then you either run the vin of the car that the engine came from, or locate the serial number of the engine and see which side of the fence it sits on.
But the only real way to know for sure if there is any doubt is to pull the valve cover and have a look.
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2007 E63
AFAIK early 2011 engines on were corrected. I believe all black rocker cover motors are revised engines with none of the prior issues.
C63 Difilippo or X Force headers also fit the E models. Sonny from Autowerx designed the headers on the jig for those companies.
If you don't want drone, make sure a resonator is plumbed into the system. Keep stock mufflers, and yes you will have to run straight pipes merging into a x-over pipe. I do not have a resonator and there is zero drone, and with the bi-modal mufflers it is very quiet on cruise but LOUD when applying throttle.
C63 Difilippo or X Force headers also fit the E models. Sonny from Autowerx designed the headers on the jig for those companies.
If you don't want drone, make sure a resonator is plumbed into the system. Keep stock mufflers, and yes you will have to run straight pipes merging into a x-over pipe. I do not have a resonator and there is zero drone, and with the bi-modal mufflers it is very quiet on cruise but LOUD when applying throttle.
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Hello guys my beloved 2009 cls63 had a major catastrophic headbolts meltdown that my engine broke down on me while i was driving . Towed it to my mechanic and told me that i need a new used engine. I came across this nice ebay seller selling this C63 for $6,500 with 79K miles on it with Installation cost $2,000. Currently in the works and is awaiting for her arrival. So now that the new used c63 only delivers 450 hp will it bump up to 517hp just like the cls63? Or does it need to be tuned?
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Nah you’re good. It’ll turn into 517hp automatically as soon as you put it in the car as long as you’re not also changing out the horsepower tank.
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