Your opinion on 2012 PPP
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Volvo V70 :-)
Your opinion on 2012 PPP
Approached a guy who owns a low milage, domestic sold, 2012 PPP at around 67,000-73,000 KM (40-45K miles). It has been serviced 5 times, last serviced was in 2019 at about 60,000KM which I think was Service A.
He wants about €40K for it as a private sale. I think the price is reasonable due to low milage and documented history. I would prefer the price point if it was through a dealer due to the warranty that dealers has to provide. I know it would probably need an upcoming Service B at €2K+. When looking at the VIN number it looks kinda poorly equipped. It has 471 which however makes me happy.
What do you guys think regarding the price point, service history and the equipment? Good examples are quite hard to find. Should I keep looking, hoping to find a car at lower priced/more equipment or negotiate? Is 5 services during 9 years and 70,000KM good?
Code Description
1U3 VEHICLE WAXING
213 SPEED-SENSITIVE POWER STEERING/VARIO STEERING
230 PARKING GUIDANCE
240 LED DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS
249 INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR MIRROR,AUTOMATICALLY DIMMING
255B MB MOBILO WITH DSB AND GGD
265 LINES-NO.PLATE DISCONTINUED
267B AIRBAGLABLE - ENGLISH
287 THROUGH-LOADING FEATURE
293 SIDEBAG IN REAR LEFT AND RIGHT
294 KNEE AIRBAG
310B HEAD UNIT LANGUAGE - ENGLISH
340B INSTRUMENT CLUSTER/HU LANGUAGE - ENGLISH
345 RAIN SENSOR
414 ELECTRIC TILT/SLIDE SUNROOF IN GLASS VERSION
427 AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION 7-SPEED
440 TEMPOMAT (CRUISE CONTROL)
471 MECHANICAL LOCKING DIFFERENTIAL
475 TIRE PRESSURE CONTROL
500 ELECTRIC FOLDING OUTSIDE MIRROR
513 TRAFFIC SIGN RECOGNITION
518 UNIVERSAL COMMUNICATIONS INTERFACE (UCI)
51U BLACK FABRIC ROOF INTERIOR TRIM
527 COMAND DVD APS WITH NAVIGATION
551 BASIC ANTITHEFT ALARM SYSTEM (ATA)
580 AIR CONDITIONER
584 ELECTRIC WINDOW REGULATOR
5XXL EUROPE
600 HEADLAMPS - CLEANING EQUIPMENT
608 AUTOMATIC HIGH BEAM SWITCH (IHC)
622 HEADLAMP WITH ILS, RIGHT-HAND TRAFFIC
666 PRODUCT PROT.F.TRANSPORT VEH. W/O TIE-DOWN HOOKS
730A LEATHER COMBINATION
731A LEATHER COMBINATION - BLACK/ANTHRACITE
739 TRIM PIECES - ALUMINUM
772 AMG STYLING PACKAGE-FRONT SPOILER, SIDE SKIRT
776 WHEEL ARCH ENLARGEMENT
788 19" AMG MULTI-SPOKE WHEELS W/ MIXED TIRES
799U DIAMOND WHITE - METALLIC PAINT
802 CHANGE OF MODEL YEAR, THE LAST FIGURE SHOWING THE NEW MODEL YEAR
810 PREMIUM SOUND SYSTEM
81P COMAND WITH NAVIGATION UPDATE
824 AIR CONDITIONING SCOPES FOR COLD COUNTRIES
840 DARK TINTED GLASS
873 SEAT HEATER FOR LEFT AND RIGHT FRONT SEATS
882 SENSOR SYSTEM AND ANTITHEFT ALARM SYSTEM
889 KEYLESS - GO
89V SPEED- + LOADINDEX ZR19 XL+ZR19 XL
909 ALTERNATOR MANAGEMENT
916 FUEL TANK WITH LARGE VOLUME - VOLUME 1
923 OUTPUT INCREASE OF ENGINES
928 EXHAUST GAS CLEANING WITH EURO 5 TECHNOLOGY
954 EQUIPMENT PACKAGE FOR AVANTGARDE VEHICLES
966 COC PAPER EURO 5 TECH. W/O REGIST. CERT. PART 2
989 IDENTIFICATION LABEL UNDER WINDSHIELD
A44 SOFTWARE 3
A50 ENGINE BRACKET VARIANT
A88 VS-I VALVE BODY ASSEMBLY WITH VGS 3
A89 REDUCED-FRICTION
F204 MODEL SERIES 204
FS COMBI - VEHICLE
G930 TRANSMISSION CODE VERSION 30
GV AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION REINFORCED
HA REAR AXLE
K11 ADAPTIVE STOP LIGHT FLASHING
K14 CONTROL CODE FOR SERVICE INTERVAL 20000 KM
L LEFT-HAND STEERING
M156 V8 GASOLINE ENGINE M156 - AMG
M63 6.3 LITER DISPLACEMENT
NM9 CONTROL CODE BREMEN PLANT
NO2 CONTROL CODE BREMEN PLANT
P30 AMG PERFORMANCE PACKAGE
P47 PARKING PACKAGE HIGH
P49 MIRRORS PACKAGE
P54 THEFT PROTECTION PACKAGE
R01 SUMMER TIRES
U01 REAR BELT STATUS INDICATION
U18 AUTOMATIC CHILD SEAT RECOGNITATION (AKSE)
U70 BRAKE CALIPERS PAINTED RED
U72 DVD PLAYER WITH REGIONAL CODE 2, EUROPE, JAPAN
VL FRONT AXLE HALF, LEFT
VR FRONT AXLE HALF, RIGHT
He wants about €40K for it as a private sale. I think the price is reasonable due to low milage and documented history. I would prefer the price point if it was through a dealer due to the warranty that dealers has to provide. I know it would probably need an upcoming Service B at €2K+. When looking at the VIN number it looks kinda poorly equipped. It has 471 which however makes me happy.
What do you guys think regarding the price point, service history and the equipment? Good examples are quite hard to find. Should I keep looking, hoping to find a car at lower priced/more equipment or negotiate? Is 5 services during 9 years and 70,000KM good?
Code Description
1U3 VEHICLE WAXING
213 SPEED-SENSITIVE POWER STEERING/VARIO STEERING
230 PARKING GUIDANCE
240 LED DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS
249 INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR MIRROR,AUTOMATICALLY DIMMING
255B MB MOBILO WITH DSB AND GGD
265 LINES-NO.PLATE DISCONTINUED
267B AIRBAGLABLE - ENGLISH
287 THROUGH-LOADING FEATURE
293 SIDEBAG IN REAR LEFT AND RIGHT
294 KNEE AIRBAG
310B HEAD UNIT LANGUAGE - ENGLISH
340B INSTRUMENT CLUSTER/HU LANGUAGE - ENGLISH
345 RAIN SENSOR
414 ELECTRIC TILT/SLIDE SUNROOF IN GLASS VERSION
427 AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION 7-SPEED
440 TEMPOMAT (CRUISE CONTROL)
471 MECHANICAL LOCKING DIFFERENTIAL
475 TIRE PRESSURE CONTROL
500 ELECTRIC FOLDING OUTSIDE MIRROR
513 TRAFFIC SIGN RECOGNITION
518 UNIVERSAL COMMUNICATIONS INTERFACE (UCI)
51U BLACK FABRIC ROOF INTERIOR TRIM
527 COMAND DVD APS WITH NAVIGATION
551 BASIC ANTITHEFT ALARM SYSTEM (ATA)
580 AIR CONDITIONER
584 ELECTRIC WINDOW REGULATOR
5XXL EUROPE
600 HEADLAMPS - CLEANING EQUIPMENT
608 AUTOMATIC HIGH BEAM SWITCH (IHC)
622 HEADLAMP WITH ILS, RIGHT-HAND TRAFFIC
666 PRODUCT PROT.F.TRANSPORT VEH. W/O TIE-DOWN HOOKS
730A LEATHER COMBINATION
731A LEATHER COMBINATION - BLACK/ANTHRACITE
739 TRIM PIECES - ALUMINUM
772 AMG STYLING PACKAGE-FRONT SPOILER, SIDE SKIRT
776 WHEEL ARCH ENLARGEMENT
788 19" AMG MULTI-SPOKE WHEELS W/ MIXED TIRES
799U DIAMOND WHITE - METALLIC PAINT
802 CHANGE OF MODEL YEAR, THE LAST FIGURE SHOWING THE NEW MODEL YEAR
810 PREMIUM SOUND SYSTEM
81P COMAND WITH NAVIGATION UPDATE
824 AIR CONDITIONING SCOPES FOR COLD COUNTRIES
840 DARK TINTED GLASS
873 SEAT HEATER FOR LEFT AND RIGHT FRONT SEATS
882 SENSOR SYSTEM AND ANTITHEFT ALARM SYSTEM
889 KEYLESS - GO
89V SPEED- + LOADINDEX ZR19 XL+ZR19 XL
909 ALTERNATOR MANAGEMENT
916 FUEL TANK WITH LARGE VOLUME - VOLUME 1
923 OUTPUT INCREASE OF ENGINES
928 EXHAUST GAS CLEANING WITH EURO 5 TECHNOLOGY
954 EQUIPMENT PACKAGE FOR AVANTGARDE VEHICLES
966 COC PAPER EURO 5 TECH. W/O REGIST. CERT. PART 2
989 IDENTIFICATION LABEL UNDER WINDSHIELD
A44 SOFTWARE 3
A50 ENGINE BRACKET VARIANT
A88 VS-I VALVE BODY ASSEMBLY WITH VGS 3
A89 REDUCED-FRICTION
F204 MODEL SERIES 204
FS COMBI - VEHICLE
G930 TRANSMISSION CODE VERSION 30
GV AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION REINFORCED
HA REAR AXLE
K11 ADAPTIVE STOP LIGHT FLASHING
K14 CONTROL CODE FOR SERVICE INTERVAL 20000 KM
L LEFT-HAND STEERING
M156 V8 GASOLINE ENGINE M156 - AMG
M63 6.3 LITER DISPLACEMENT
NM9 CONTROL CODE BREMEN PLANT
NO2 CONTROL CODE BREMEN PLANT
P30 AMG PERFORMANCE PACKAGE
P47 PARKING PACKAGE HIGH
P49 MIRRORS PACKAGE
P54 THEFT PROTECTION PACKAGE
R01 SUMMER TIRES
U01 REAR BELT STATUS INDICATION
U18 AUTOMATIC CHILD SEAT RECOGNITATION (AKSE)
U70 BRAKE CALIPERS PAINTED RED
U72 DVD PLAYER WITH REGIONAL CODE 2, EUROPE, JAPAN
VL FRONT AXLE HALF, LEFT
VR FRONT AXLE HALF, RIGHT
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2013 c63 AMG sedan p30+p31
From what country? The only thing i can chim in with is that I bought a similar c63 but with a little more fitted. It is my dream car so i dunno if i payed too much, they are rare here though
2013, PPP, LSD, Harman kardon and pretty much all the goodies except blind spot. 64000km, one owner. €40.000. But I got a thread here with a "problem" rev needle jumping.
I think its a good price.
*edit* by the look of your name im guesing Sweden, which is where i am from too
2013, PPP, LSD, Harman kardon and pretty much all the goodies except blind spot. 64000km, one owner. €40.000. But I got a thread here with a "problem" rev needle jumping.
I think its a good price.
*edit* by the look of your name im guesing Sweden, which is where i am from too
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Joined: Sep 2020
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Volvo V70 :-)
From what country? The only thing i can chim in with is that I bought a similar c63 but with a little more fitted. It is my dream car so i dunno if i payed too much, they are rare here though
2013, PPP, LSD, Harman kardon and pretty much all the goodies except blind spot. 64000km, one owner. €40.000. But I got a thread here with a "problem" rev needle jumping.
I think its a good price.
*edit* by the look of your name im guesing Sweden, which is where i am from too
2013, PPP, LSD, Harman kardon and pretty much all the goodies except blind spot. 64000km, one owner. €40.000. But I got a thread here with a "problem" rev needle jumping.
I think its a good price.
*edit* by the look of your name im guesing Sweden, which is where i am from too
You're right, tack for the feedback!
