apoptosis

I am in the process of piecing together all parts for my cam adjusters. Can anyone recommend a decent timing tool kit? I know oem is best and I've seen that most cheap kits are slightly off. Thanks!

sickSVT

I used the Amazon timing tool kit, worked great for me.

skullbox15

I bought (2): the one that comes in a red box and the blue box.

If I lay the flat bar (used to lock the rear cams) on a flat bench they both seems to be VERY slightly off. Maybe a few thousands of an inch. I think they will work fine.

apoptosis

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​​​​​​Thanks for the input! I'll go with the cheaper set and maybe buy an extra just in case. I'll put the extra money into titanium adjuster bolts.

skullbox15

I bought those bolts too. Figured it would be better to have a set of those then take apart the ones I have and find 1 or more that were stretched.

apoptosis

That was my thinking as well. Should cam cap bolts be replaced as well? I really hope my cams are good but I guess I'll see once I split the valve covers.

Cwagon

I've got 2 tools also.
1 x Amazon (Red cam alignment tool) which works perfect and one cheap one from eBay (silver cam plate) which is ok.
If I fit up using the red plate first the other one lines up perfect but if I use the silver plate first the red plate sometimes doesn't line up.
I've played around with swapping them around after turning the motor around a couple of times to the 40deg mark.
It's always the same when using the red plate first the silver fits other side every time.
I always do my timing of the cams off the red plate and just use the silver plate to keep the other side locked.

apoptosis

Thanks man! I'll go with the red plate one on Amazon and see how it works.

swedepat

It is so little weightgain using titaniumbolt that the extra cost for those is just worth having the bragging rights
Oem is a good quality 10.9 countersunk M6(metric 6mm).

17:50 bucks[dollar) for complete set in Sweden.
(same quality as oem)



Sample pic, maybe isn´t the exact length. But prices for 60mm long ones are 20bucks.

apoptosis

Has anyone used ina 4200217100 instead of genuine lifters and do they have the top anti friction coating?

skullbox15

I ordered those from FCPEuro but haven't put them in yet. They DO have the coating on the top.

bullitt69

What is the length of the required replacement bolts for the adjusters? Don't want to buy titanium ones, but love to find a good quality replacement say from ARP.

bullitt69

Update:

Just found out that 20 Black Oxide M6x35mm Allen-Head Countersunk Screws are included in this kit of plates here for the M156:

https://www.darkroadperformance.com/...43330912682236

Apparently these are the correct bolts:

https://www.fmwfasteners.com/product...u087TDfzV7vXmM

dattorob

i went to that dark road performance link but no cigar? Does not appear in their shop? Does it still exist?

bullitt69

For some reason they took it down. It worked a couple of days ago.

Google still indicates that page existed