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Tuning any car adds some risks and impacts warranty (in this case obviously not an issue here). But if you are worried about some stage1 tune from anyone you should not proceed. Pay to play...
FWIW I haven't seen EC tune blowing up engines. Care to provide info or is this just general hear say?
yes sir I do understand the risks of tuning the car but tuners do advertise that the tune is 100% safe and is not gonna be pushing the car to its limits, everybody knows a C63 with P31 has SLS internals and 540BHP is no stress for the engine …..I’m not blaming or pointing fingers at EC that they r blowing up engines but their tune is not working for my car at the moment and I have spent a lot of money for something that isn’t working for my car which may definitely cause harm in the long run…..
"safe" is being used as a sales term not a factual mention. safe would mean a less than 0.1% failure/error rate. with the factory tune being the base line with a 0% failure rate. if baselined against factory, even less 0.1% is not considered "safe".
regarding the dyno, it seems your car already had a tune on it or the exact tune on it when it was thought to be stock.
to assist with the information you've provided, your said tune is delivering LESS timing than the factory tune does. this would mean the computer is managing safety of the engine versus a physical issue or a disagreement with what the tune is asking to be delivered versus what the computer thinks it should deliver for engine safety. again, could be a mechanical/physical issue, fuel quality, or a disagreement with the tune's ask of the computer.
2012 P31 C63 Coupe Trackrat, 2019 GLE63S Coupe Beast
LOL at the posts about EC tunes “blowing up engines”. Like that’s even remotely possible for a Stage 1 tune on a NA engine that isn’t even particularly high-strung. I’ll start off by saying that EC and Jerry have treated me well for almost a decade now. Have never had a problem that they couldn’t help me to resolve. V5, V6, V7, dyno tune - some have required quite a bit of back-and-forth and fine-tuning, but in the end I’ve been happy. 9yrs of beating the snot out of the car, puts up very strong dyno and track numbers, engine is healthy, I have nothing to complain about.
I’ve waded into these stupid tuner discussions before, and pretty much regret it every time. I guess I just don’t like people flying off the handle all crazy about some perceived fraud etc. I’ll just say that maybe if people would actually take some time to establish a real relationship and talk to Jerry and his team like normal human beings capable of speaking in full sentences, he’d be more responsive to what seem to be increasingly needy and in some cases imaginary demands, but what do I know. Or u culd keep speakin in code 2 him cuz that seemz to be workin!
Seriously, these rumors without any proof seem to be started by the same sort of person every time - fourth or fifth owner, maybe unfamiliar with high-performance brands, unable or unwilling to spend some time being educated about what they’re doing, and then getting frustrated and blaming anyone but themselves when things don’t turn out the way they expected. I wonder how things are communicated back to EC and if they have good reason for ghosting on responses. There are always 2 or more sides to a story, and I tend to believe by default the 30yr business with thousands of happy customers over anonymous internet trolls (unless that business name is Hennessy).
This is an old platform. Tuning this shît ain’t magic. Nothing particularly new or surprising has been discovered that changes the game. The off-the-shelf tunes are made to be safe as kittens across a wide range of operating conditions and aren’t going to be for everyone. I’m glad Barry is getting a ton of business because he’s a good dude and deserves it as a MBW-home-grown enthusiast here. And I think his fully custom tunes and high-touch service are what really sets him apart - an off-the-shelf tune from the bulge bracket shops just can't ever compare. But if you think he has some magic secret or is doing anything much different (technically speaking) than EC, or RENNtech, or Weistec who’ve all been in this game for decades, then you’re really not paying attention. They all use the exact same tools - I WATCHED Jerry tune my car with HPT. Just look at the tunes on the 1/4 mile list, almost all of the really fast times are MHP and OE Tuning from a decade ago, and are they even still in business. It doesn’t matter.
Anyway I’d love to see proof of all these EC “blown engines”. Figure crickets is all we’ll get on that. LOL
Hi guys, caught in a ****ty situation….so I send these logs to EC and they say it’s impossible so asked me to send mygenius device logs and after they check I get this answer…..
So I paid 1.5k for tune and device and got only aggressive downshifts but gained ‘0’power, so the tune has failed to deliver right?
Hi guys, caught in a ****ty situation….so I send these logs to EC and they say it’s impossible so asked me to send mygenius device logs and after they check I get this answer…..
So I paid 1.5k for tune and device and got only aggressive downshifts but gained ‘0’power, so the tune has failed to deliver right?
your logs show you are pulling timing. You need to have it properly diagnosed for a hardware error. You also stated you have an exhaust leak. Let’s get that corrected as well
your logs show you are pulling timing. You need to have it properly diagnosed for a hardware error. You also stated you have an exhaust leak. Let’s get that corrected as well
Exhaust leak has been rectified was a clamp in mid section,no mechanical issues that we could see or hear off….EC told me the only way to fix this is to do a live session on a dynojet but will they pay for the dyno fees ?
"safe" is being used as a sales term not a factual mention. safe would mean a less than 0.1% failure/error rate. with the factory tune being the base line with a 0% failure rate. if baselined against factory, even less 0.1% is not considered "safe".
regarding the dyno, it seems your car already had a tune on it or the exact tune on it when it was thought to be stock.
to assist with the information you've provided, your said tune is delivering LESS timing than the factory tune does. this would mean the computer is managing safety of the engine versus a physical issue or a disagreement with what the tune is asking to be delivered versus what the computer thinks it should deliver for engine safety. again, could be a mechanical/physical issue, fuel quality, or a disagreement with the tune's ask of the computer.
seems like you made more power than your previous tune with them? or am i mixing things up here? if your concern is actual reported numbers, dyno numbers mean absolutely nothing unless you are comparing against another setup on the same dyno back to back. peak numbers mean nothing if comparing against other dynos for other people. a 12 inch ruler on one brand of dyno does not equate to a 12 inch ruler on another dyno. they are not and cannot be equivalent.
if your post is showing stock tune versus custom dyno tune, you didn't state that and i'm still unclear if that is what you would mean.
Have you considered maybe the car was already tuned? picking up 20whp from a tune only on a 204 C63 still isn't what I would consider "good" . They all end up around 540 crank HP. so even if your was a 507 it should pickup more. Anyways whats it running now with the new tune? I've seen cars dyno great and are much slower on the street vs dyno lower and faster on the street.
Have you considered maybe the car was already tuned? picking up 20whp from a tune only on a 204 C63 still isn't what I would consider "good" . They all end up around 540 crank HP. so even if your was a 507 it should pickup more. Anyways whats it running now with the new tune? I've seen cars dyno great and are much slower on the street vs dyno lower and faster on the street.
Well my car showed same WHP changing from stock to EC V7, like I have said EC tune didn’t work for me…. They couldn’t figure out what was wrong either so got a custom tune…. I am happy with the numbers and can feel a difference in mid and top end…. Will be doing a draggy 1/4 mile test very soon to see the results….
seems like you made more power than your previous tune with them? or am i mixing things up here? if your concern is actual reported numbers, dyno numbers mean absolutely nothing unless you are comparing against another setup on the same dyno back to back. peak numbers mean nothing if comparing against other dynos for other people. a 12 inch ruler on one brand of dyno does not equate to a 12 inch ruler on another dyno. they are not and cannot be equivalent.
if your post is showing stock tune versus custom dyno tune, you didn't state that and i'm still unclear if that is what you would mean.
Yes I made more power with them than EC V7 tune….When I did stock vs EC V7 tune on dyno it showed the same power output but it had the aggressive down blips and EC couldn’t find out why the tune didn’t make any power…I sent them the mygenius log files and they said it ran fine on their test car, so I decided to ditch them and get a custom tune….
my post 1st shows stock vs EC V7 then It shows the custom tune power figures…
02-10-2023 | 01:45 PM
….so I send these logs to EC and they say it’s impossible so asked me to send mygenius device logs and after they check I get this answer…..
