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you bought a car that’s been butchered in its repair, you are focusing on fixing that we get it. You complaining about smooth brains but have enough Brains yourself to see the car is clearly messed up.
I never said the seller “butchered” the repair. I said the “front grille, both headlights, radiators, and bumper brackets needed to be replaced” and the seller replaced them all.
I got my bachelor’s degree in electrical engineering and I make decisions based on facts, not emotions. Your assumption that there is “frame damage” is a made-up of emotions, not facts.
You haven’t seen or driven the car. My mechanic, bodyshop owner, and I have assessed the car and the mechanic and bodyshop confirmed no frame damage—as I said before.
Like I said I’d be concerned about the mechanical repairs done on the car before any cosmetics. If they can’t line up a hood / use wrong rocker panels etc…I can almost guarantee the mechanics is butchered too:
No one cares what you are concerned with. It’s not your car and you don’t own a trust-worthy bodyshop. You are an envious parasite that owns one of the ugliest sedans Mercedes ever built. The W204 sedan has aged like cheap beer while the W204 coupe has aged gracefully.
don’t get upset, learn….until then good luck with your problem.
Upset? I live in California. I’m used to socialists saying dumb sh*t. You’re another useful idiot that can’t control his child-like envy. It’s hilarious 😂
I've never witnessed someone telling someone else with pretty much the same car that they must be poor and should get a new job to finance purchasing a real car 🤔.... definitely makes a lot of sense ?
You seem pretty emotional and mad yourself. Lashing out simply because your car seemed to have issues with the prior damage and body panel alignment. Who cares if they are pointing it out as you said if the chassis and **** is all good once your body work is done it will be fixed.
I've never witnessed someone telling someone else with pretty much the same car that they must be poor and should get a new job to finance purchasing a real car 🤔.... definitely makes a lot of sense ?
You seem pretty emotional and mad yourself. Lashing out simply because your car seemed to have issues with the prior damage and body panel alignment. Who cares if they are pointing it out as you said if the chassis and **** is all good once your body work is done it will be fixed.
Not emotional or mad. I'm grateful and very fortunate to be able to afford this car, the original parts, and the project.
It's also not "pretty much the same car." There's a reason why the sedans sell for much less than the coupes: the market values the W204 coupes more than the sedans.
The market also values W204 Black Series coupes significantly more than the regular W204 AMG coupes.
People living in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones. When someone drives an OfferUp-beater sedan with non-AMG parts, it's probably better that they focus their energy & efforts on buying the car that they actually want instead of obsessing over other people's dreams/goals.
If the haters actually owned a nicer or better-looking car, it would be a valid criticism. If they don't, I'll respond accordingly.
This project was inspired by a friend that owns an actual C63 Black Series. I've been posting pictures of the project and hoping to inspire or help others wanting to do the same.
C63 Black Series conversions always ruffle some feathers in this forum; especially from the non-creatives & narcissists.
Last edited by Sentinel83; 06-20-2023 at 11:20 AM.
Yours isn't a real black series. Hell you aren't even using the real parts you are using some cheapo Chinese parts. So not sure why you think yours is so special? Coupes aren't selling for much if any more than sedans not sure where you got that from, yeah the bs are considerably more... they are black series. Yours when done will be worth roughly the same as a standard coupe no where near a black series. So unless you are delisuional and think yours is now some super special black series because you put a body kit on it I'm confused as to how someone with the exact same car but with 2 extra doors is now a peasant to your high rolling baller ?
Read the title Sherlock. It literally says “build / conversion.” The goal is make the car a better version of what it was, not to change the VIN number to an actual Black Series 🤦♂️
Hell you aren't even using the real parts you are using some cheapo Chinese parts.
The OEM Black Series quarter panels are NLA.
This kit is fiberglass and carbon fiber. This kit cost well over $7 grand; it wasn’t cheap by any means. I wanted something as close to OEM as possible in terms of reliability; hence why half the parts are carbon fiber.
The same supplier can make the other half in carbon fiber as well, which I plan on purchasing if the fiberglass cracks.
I also have the OEM Black Series front and rear bumpers, and will be purchasing the OEM side skirts and front fenders. All the OEM parts will stay in storage as Mercedes parts inventory is running low, and they too will be NLA in no time.
because you put a body kit on it I'm confused as to how someone with the exact same car but with 2 extra doors is now a peasant to your high rolling baller ?
You’ve never gotten a car appraised, have you? When you keep your receipts it’s not that complicated to dispute a valuation. This car is a keeper, not a flip.
Regardless…this still cracks me up 👇
Last edited by Sentinel83; 06-20-2023 at 01:56 AM.
It only seems appropriate when talking **** about your car.
Got the neanderthal to admit it. Just like a conniving, delusional villain from an Ayn Rand novel that obsesses over the protagonists goals instead of building their own. They get enjoyment out of seeing the protagonist’s demise because the protagonist can do what the delusional villain cannot.
Envy makes the envious too paralyzed to think because they are consumed and obsessed with the goals of others. They seek out and focus on the imperfections instead of praising their fellow man for taking action on their goal.
Envy is evil.
Last edited by Sentinel83; 06-20-2023 at 11:15 AM.
The front matte black OEM Black Series wheels are on back order. I went ahead with buying the aluminum versions and having them converted to matte black:
Thus thread is really gaining momentum and going in all directions. Is it true that coupes are now more valuable than sedans? It would be helpful if someone could provide us with factual information. I'm beginning to worry that I may have purchased a car that is considered inferior. My ego has been shattered.
Thus thread is really gaining momentum and going in all directions. Is it true that coupes are now more valuable than sedans? It would be helpful if someone could provide us with factual information. I'm beginning to worry that I may have purchased a car that is considered inferior. My ego has been shattered.
You have 2 more doors so you suck..... You gotta go buy a salvage coupe and stick fake BS body panels on than talk down on everyone else. LOL.......
Originally Posted by Slow_c63
Thus thread is really gaining momentum and going in all directions. Is it true that coupes are now more valuable than sedans? It would be helpful if someone could provide us with factual information. I'm beginning to worry that I may have purchased a car that is considered inferior. My ego has been shattered.
Yes a 2014 or 2015 is worth more than a pfl 2008/2009... coupe and sedan... same year same mileage a coupe and sedan are basically a wash in value within a couple thousand of each other so not sure how owning a coupe makes it super special in your mind and in a completely different category than an identical sedan? Did you know the w205 are worth even more than your car... and the w206 double or even approaching triple!! So what does that make your car?
Don't worry about your car being inferior or not. If you enjoy it then it doesn't matter what I (or anyone else) thinks about the sedans.
The W204 coupe wouldn't have been made if the W204 sedan didn't come first.
I don't see how that comparison is relevant. The most accurate way to compare is by comparing cars from the same year, with similar modifications, and taking into consideration whether they have a clean title or any reported accidents. By doing this, you'll discover that there's no significant difference between them unless one car has a specific package.
On a side note, I was joking earlier. I thought my sarcasm was clear. The thought of you thinking I was for real is funny enough 😂😂 You’d love my sedan I find coupes mehhhhh
Originally Posted by Kriston
You have 2 more doors so you suck..... You gotta go buy a salvage coupe and stick fake BS body panels on than talk down on everyone else. LOL.......
Thank you @BHimself! I'll be sure to keep you posted on the front grille sections.
The Darwin Pro front grill sections look better than this kit. The kit I purchased is from China and not from Darwin Pro, but much cheaper than Darwin Pro's.
I'm hesitant to share the company's contact info as I've had some issues with them since purchasing the kit.
The carbon fiber hood has some waviness to it. The body shop recommended I purchase a fiberglass hood instead since fiberglass is easier to work with than carbon fiber.
If the installation works out at the end of the day then I'll share their contact info here.
Cheers
I'm not interested in the drama going on here, but I'd love a follow up to our chat from earlier.
The darwin kit shouldn't have been more than $7k, post tax & shipping with the crazy forged carbon option. The base or weaved carbon is cheaper then, but does that mean you've sorted out fitment issues?
I still have this project as a "next year" concept, and I'd really appreciate any updates from someone who's sourced the parts.
Currently, the UK firm Golding barn garage seems to have the best quality, but they're rear only, and I still would just go "all in" if I'm chopping up the car anyway. (if any of our UK members want to go convince GBG to build a full wide-body kit, I'd likely impulse buy that, just saying)
updates on the bottom grill then? do the BS parts fit in the DRL area or is there mods needed?
it's great you're tackling the project, thanks for the updates.
Some of the prior comments aren't wrong though and any car that does have the "base" c-class sport series rockers really then does warrant a deep dive into the car from a safety perspective. Don't take comments too personally and try appreciating the passion that our decade old chassis still command.
It's truely off topic, but Car Magazine posted what to me is the first full review of the w206 c63 and it's just making me happy I'm doubling down on my 2014 sedan.
I think that the build itself is the most important. I find it fascinating to see how a project like this comes together. There are so many moving parts, and the level of detail required may require a professional. Watching the project progress and seeing how it all comes together is what these forums are for.
While drama can sometimes make for good entertainment, I don't think it should be the focus of this thread. There will no doubt be challenges and setbacks along the way. By focusing on the build and the technical aspects of the project, we can gain a greater appreciation and understanding for the incredible work that goes into constructing something like this.
My first time hearing of Golding Barn Garage. You mention that they only sell rear. Do you have more info on the rear that you mentioned, as I do not see it on their page. Is it coupe only rear, or do they supply it for sedans as well?
I don't want to hijack Sentinel's thread, but @Slow_c63 check out this thread here.
It's a great read in general, but the takeaways are:
GBG's 4 door rear widebody: here
GBG's 2 door rear widebody: here
Member here @DRBC43AMG pointed out an awesome build on a different forum, here. Spoiler: dude sold the car before the build was completed.
Member here @Cozy says he's the OG for getting GBG to create their kit, from a another vendor called Moshammer.
This video introducted me to GBG only a few months ago myself. haven't seen one in person though.
I don't want to hijack Sentinel's thread, but @Slow_c63 check out this thread here.
It's a great read in general, but the takeaways are:
GBG's 4 door rear widebody: here
GBG's 2 door rear widebody: here
Member here @DRBC43AMG pointed out an awesome build on a different forum, here. Spoiler: dude sold the car before the build was completed.
Member here @Cozy says he's the OG for getting GBG to create their kit, from a another vendor called Moshammer.
This video introducted me to GBG only a few months ago myself. haven't seen one in person though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnDTAAiE9t4
HTH.
Yes, he is I, the first one stupid enough to use a Moshammer kit to design and build a coupe kit. The Moshammer kit only fits PFL sedan, so Sirius was able to take the coupe kit I had made up and create a sedan and wagon kit.
My conversion was nearly 4yr ago now, and haven’t looked back.
That's my non aero package Iridium Silver with a friend's matte black aero package car....truly special cars, and glad to see they are still sought after 10 years later.
The real CBS's come in and scare everyone else off. @Sentinel83 How's your build turning out?
Overall, still happy you went with the OEM C63 BS parts?
Have any new wisdom to impart on the rest of us?
I'm not interested in the drama going on here, but I'd love a follow up to our chat from earlier.
The darwin kit shouldn't have been more than $7k, post tax & shipping with the crazy forged carbon option. The base or weaved carbon is cheaper then, but does that mean you've sorted out fitment issues?
I still have this project as a "next year" concept, and I'd really appreciate any updates from someone who's sourced the parts.
Currently, the UK firm Golding barn garage seems to have the best quality, but they're rear only, and I still would just go "all in" if I'm chopping up the car anyway. (if any of our UK members want to go convince GBG to build a full wide-body kit, I'd likely impulse buy that, just saying)
updates on the bottom grill then? do the BS parts fit in the DRL area or is there mods needed?
it's great you're tackling the project, thanks for the updates.
Some of the prior comments aren't wrong though and any car that does have the "base" c-class sport series rockers really then does warrant a deep dive into the car from a safety perspective. Don't take comments too personally and try appreciating the passion that our decade old chassis still command.
It's truely off topic, but Car Magazine posted what to me is the first full review of the w206 c63 and it's just making me happy I'm doubling down on my 2014 sedan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If3fblbyB6Y
Anyway, enjoy it in good health and keep us updated!
@BHimself thanks, hope all is well with you too. I had to put the C63 Black Series build on hold to have the shop repair my W202.
I was driving and ran over a volleyball a few months ago. Just got her back:
It has 450,000 miles on the original 4 cylinder engine.
My body shop is now back to work on the W204 C63 BS project after the hiatus.
The OEM C63 Black Series front bumper grills fit perfectly. The bodyshop said everything with the bodykit is fine except for the carbon fiber hood. I ended up purchasing a black series-style fiberglass front hood since the aluminum hood is NLA.
The YellowSpeedRacing coilover kit and OEM C63 Black Series exhaust have also been installed. Will post additional pics the next time I visit the shop.
In regards to the W206 C63: it's woke garbage. I'm not a fan at all and wish Mercedes would follow Porsche in pursuing e-Fuels instead of trying to appease Prius owners.
I've heard that the W206 C63 sales in Germany are dismal. It's great to see BMW's M3/M4 significantly outpace it's sales.
The real CBS's come in and scare everyone else off. @Sentinel83 How's your build turning out?
Overall, still happy you went with the OEM C63 BS parts?
Have any new wisdom to impart on the rest of us?
The only thing I would have done differently is purchased this turnkey C63 conversion had it been available when I was car shopping.
Having the white wrap would have been great for the time that my wife has the car. Having the solar beam yellow paint (my preferred color) already underneath the wrap is a huge plus if/when she ever decides to upgrade to a different car.
I'm seriously considering finishing the current C63 build and adding this one to the collection as well.
Cheers,
Sentinel55
Last edited by Sentinel83; 09-12-2023 at 10:13 PM.
06-19-2023 | 04:29 PM
I find coupes mehhhhh
