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Old Jul 29, 2023 | 01:05 PM
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They must really hate digital light, saw this one at the Whitby, Ontario (Canada) dealership today. The vehicle is tinted to the point you can't even see the interior (so most likely illegal by Ontario standards), and vehicle was locked I assume this vehicle is sold already although it doesn't say sold.
I personally don’t mind not having digital lights. The standard lights seem to have great output (without black spots too) and look pretty similar (probably identical to the untrained eye). Sure they do look a tad better, but most people including W206 people would have to know what they’re looking for to see the visual differences. That starling blue though…
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Old Jul 31, 2023 | 03:59 PM
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FWIW, apples to apples with no weird roll out calculations. Same day, etc.



I still have not seen any proper draggy tests done here in America
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Old Jul 31, 2023 | 04:25 PM
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Auto motor und Sport has the T model at 4.6.
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Old Jul 31, 2023 | 04:34 PM
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Autobild tests showed 4.4

So who knows
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Old Jul 31, 2023 | 04:43 PM
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FWIW, apples to apples with no weird roll out calculations. Same day, etc.



I still have not seen any proper draggy tests done here in America
Are these brake boosted or anything similar? 5.58 is C300 numbers. I get it’s in comfort mode but that is a huge difference. Even in a 5-60 mph/10-100 kmph I would think it would be quicker than 5.58

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Old Jul 31, 2023 | 04:46 PM
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Are these brake boosted or anything similar? 5.58 is C300 numbers. I get it’s in comfort mode but that is a huge difference. Even in a 5-60 mph/10-100 hmph I would think it would be quicker than 5.58
Those 2 dudes look funny, when I saw the video I thought it was a comedy routine.
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Old Jul 31, 2023 | 04:48 PM
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Those 2 dudes look funny, when I saw the video I thought it was a comedy routine.
Best to take it with a grain of salt I assume then?
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Old Aug 1, 2023 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by AzurSL
Are these brake boosted or anything similar? 5.58 is C300 numbers. I get it’s in comfort mode but that is a huge difference. Even in a 5-60 mph/10-100 kmph I would think it would be quicker than 5.58
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Best to take it with a grain of salt I assume then?
the car is a dog off the line without pre boosting. I've been saying this since first driving the car. Electric turbo must not be doing much of anything at idle for economy reasons or otherwise. This is not including any rolling start so it's not 5 to x, it's from a dead stop.

the sport+ numbers are with race start and brake boosted, respectively. This is apples to apples. What the best case scenario is, etc. IDK. But this is back to back on the same day in the same conditions.
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Old Aug 1, 2023 | 01:24 PM
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Old Aug 2, 2023 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by alexasa
the car is a dog off the line without pre boosting. I've been saying this since first driving the car. Electric turbo must not be doing much of anything at idle for economy reasons or otherwise. This is not including any rolling start so it's not 5 to x, it's from a dead stop.

the sport+ numbers are with race start and brake boosted, respectively. This is apples to apples. What the best case scenario is, etc. IDK. But this is back to back on the same day in the same conditions.
I found the car "not that fast" when I first drove it too. I think comparing 10ths of a second at this point unnecessary. It's mid-4s, and we can all go by that. It's definitely not a rocket, nor was it ever meant to be. It's not beating an M340i in stock form. If you dig hard enough, you might find one that was launched slightly down-hill, so it got 4.3s instead of 4.5s. It is what it is, and by now I think we all know what it can do well (many things), and what it doesn't do that well (also many things).
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Old Aug 21, 2023 | 11:41 AM
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I totally missed this one - Apologies if it's been posted before!


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Old Aug 26, 2023 | 10:07 AM
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Saw this on another thread, for those who have a C 43 that sometimes experience check engine lights, this might had been the cause: https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...ml#post8836342
Sorry if this was already posted.
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Old Aug 27, 2023 | 02:55 AM
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Very interesting observations by Thomas on the C43 here.


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Old Aug 27, 2023 | 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by flocons
Very interesting observations by Thomas on the C43 here.

https://youtu.be/HOeRpQ1ZTtQ?si=tySf5FrShtZ6YfV8
Check the other threads on this sub, we've been discussing this video in depth.

Guy drove the car in two drag races and now it's the "worst car he's ever driven"...
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Old Aug 27, 2023 | 09:06 AM
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Old Aug 27, 2023 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by eatmydust
Check the other threads on this sub, we've been discussing this video in depth.

Guy drove the car in two drag races and now it's the "worst car he's ever driven"...
He is usually pretty good but this time he is very biased on the W206 C 43 in a bad way. The W206 C 43 can be capable for the track but is not built for that purpose it is meant to be a pretty speedy daily driver, short of a grand tourer. Driving it purely on the track will never tell the whole story of the car.
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Old Aug 27, 2023 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
He is usually pretty good but this time he is very biased on the W206 C 43 in a bad way. The W206 C 43 can be capable for the track but is not built for that purpose it is meant to be a pretty speedy daily driver, short of a grand tourer. Driving it purely on the track will never tell the whole story of the car.
I agree with you, but In Thomas’ defence, though the video did show him to do only two drags, I seriously doubt that he *only* drove it at the track. I think the video felt unfairly biased because the frustrations that he had with the car clearly wasn’t warranted by what we saw on the screen. It’s obvious that he had previous experiences with the car prior to the video that he did not find favourable. The problem is that what we the viewer perceived was him expressing his dislike for a car (he has the right to dislike the car), but rationalized by the context and framing of the video, which was just two races in which the car came in a distant 2nd.

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Old Aug 27, 2023 | 05:16 PM
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To be honest though, after experiencing the new C43 a few more times myself, I do have to say a lot of the car’s charm and draw is the nice feeling interior of the car. I know many people use the hand-built engine as a gauge (or prerequisite) of what should be considered a real AMG, but after getting past the new interior. It’s just a nice, comfortable daily. It feigns sportiness much like many of its competitors and is “meh” to moderately successful in some respects.

it’s not fast, quick, or speedy in any way that resembles “race car”. It’s not supposed to be.

it’s capable and compliant, but not any more than its competitors. To me, the W205 was more AMG than this one; hand-built or not. It’s just not special. Its existence isn’t going to create any new fanboys.
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Old Aug 27, 2023 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by flocons
I agree with you, but In Thomas’ defence, though the video did show him to do only two drags, I seriously doubt that he *only* drove it at the track. I think the video felt unfairly biased because the frustrations that he had with the car clearly wasn’t warranted by what we saw on the screen. It’s obvious that he had previous experiences with the car prior to the video that he did not find favourable. The problem is that what we the viewer perceived was him expressing his dislike for a car (he has the right to dislike the car), but rationalized by the context and framing of the video, which was just two races in which the car came in a distant 2nd.
Hmmm ya I agree with you and I think you have a point, they probably already shot a video of the trio cars (the normal review) before shooting this video of the drag race.

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Old Aug 27, 2023 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by flocons
To be honest though, after experiencing the new C43 a few more times myself, I do have to say a lot of the car’s charm and draw is the nice feeling interior of the car. I know many people use the hand-built engine as a gauge (or prerequisite) of what should be considered a real AMG, but after getting past the new interior. It’s just a nice, comfortable daily. It feigns sportiness much like many of its competitors and is “meh” to moderately successful in some respects.

it’s not fast, quick, or speedy in any way that resembles “race car”. It’s not supposed to be.

it’s capable and compliant, but not any more than its competitors. To me, the W205 was more AMG than this one; hand-built or not. It’s just not special. Its existence isn’t going to create any new fanboys.
Well, people will complain all the time, the W205, it has a V6 that also comes with a decent sound but they complain it isn't hand built, now for this it is hand built and they complain it is a four cylinder.
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Old Aug 27, 2023 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Well, people will complain all the time, the W205, it has a V6 that also comes with a decent sound but they complain it isn't hand built, now for this it is hand built and they complain it is a four cylinder.
And if they go to a hand built v6, people will complain about not having anything to complain about!
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Old Aug 27, 2023 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by flocons
I agree with you, but In Thomas’ defence, though the video did show him to do only two drags, I seriously doubt that he *only* drove it at the track. I think the video felt unfairly biased because the frustrations that he had with the car clearly wasn’t warranted by what we saw on the screen. It’s obvious that he had previous experiences with the car prior to the video that he did not find favourable. The problem is that what we the viewer perceived was him expressing his dislike for a car (he has the right to dislike the car), but rationalized by the context and framing of the video, which was just two races in which the car came in a distant 2nd.
ah so we have assume all this stuff while watching and read their mind? Then yeah their channel sucks.
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Old Aug 27, 2023 | 06:11 PM
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ah so we have assume all this stuff while watching and read their mind? Then yeah their channel sucks.
Ah so you have to make blanket statements using microscopic sample sizes (even when larger ones are available) despite pretty much every issue mentioned could be valid as they have all been previously mentioned from other sources? You’re not exactly channeling Sir Francis Bacon yourself, are you?
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Old Aug 27, 2023 | 06:13 PM
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Ah so you have to make blanket statements using microscopic sample sizes (even when larger ones are available) despite pretty much every issue mentioned could be valid as they have all been previously mentioned from other sources? You’re not exactly channeling Sir Francis Bacon yourself, are you?
What's the larger sample sizes? Can you provide?

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Old Aug 27, 2023 | 06:22 PM
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What's the larger sample sizes? Can you provide?
Yes. Their entire repertoire of content on their channel. You say that their channel sucks based on a few comments on a single video. Over the years, they have produced a bunch of high quality videos and reviews that are both entertaining and journalistically valid. The larger sample size suggests that the quality of the content on their YouTube channel is actually opposite of what your conclusion of their channel is.
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