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Old Mar 20, 2024 | 01:29 PM
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Got to see it for the first time. Price here in Brazil is ridiculous btw (R$ 999.998) - which is US$ 200k.

Looks banging in person.
Agree with the looks, that price is insane though, it includes VAT and licensing and stuff though right?
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Old Mar 28, 2024 | 08:57 PM
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MSRP in Canada is $105 000. Quoted for "retail release in late Q2."
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Old Apr 20, 2024 | 11:40 AM
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That is a crazy price. Out of curiosity, what is the M3/M4 priced at in Brazil?
About 155k USD here.

Mercedes has gone crazy with pricing here. There will be a launch Test-Drive event in Brazil soon, and I will get to test the car out. Funnily enough, it appears the car will arrive here first compared to US.

There are some units already going around in dealers to show to prospects. Impressively looking car, but interior quality of the LCI W205 C AMG is a little better, although the W206 C 63 AMG is a huge step up in quality to the standard W206, unlike the W205 (both AMG and normal civilians Cs were close in quality).
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Old Apr 20, 2024 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Agree with the looks, that price is insane though, it includes VAT and licensing and stuff though right?
Yes on VAT (here in Brazil its built in the price, its called ICMS, IPI, PIS and COFINS, 4 different sales taxes - I know, its crazy), no on licensing and other tariffs. There is still another 5k USD in fees, after purchase.
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Old Apr 21, 2024 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by CarlosAMGBR
Yes on VAT (here in Brazil its built in the price, its called ICMS, IPI, PIS and COFINS, 4 different sales taxes - I know, its crazy), no on licensing and other tariffs. There is still another 5k USD in fees, after purchase.
I see.
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Old Apr 22, 2024 | 01:33 PM
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Looks like C63Ss are showing up in US inventory on mbusa.com
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Old Apr 22, 2024 | 01:38 PM
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On a related note, AMG has apparently killed the CLE 63 S E Performance and instead it's going to be a V8. There have been some recent spy shots showing a CLE 63 lacking the charging door on the rear bumper. This seems to confirm that the 4-banger E Performance CLE is no more. Article is in German, but I'm sure Google can translate it for those who don't speak German.

https://mbpassion.de/2024/04/strateg...it-4-zylinder/
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Old Apr 22, 2024 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
On a related note, AMG has apparently killed the CLE 63 S E Performance and instead it's going to be a V8. There have been some recent spy shots showing a CLE 63 lacking the charging door on the rear bumper. This seems to confirm that the 4-banger E Performance CLE is no more. Article is in German, but I'm sure Google can translate it for those who don't speak German.

https://mbpassion.de/2024/04/strateg...it-4-zylinder/
Yes, I saw this as well. good news for most who prefer the V8. This makes sense as to why the C63 SE is now only being released as a 2024 model in Canada. Likely will not be renewed after or switched to inline 6 or V8 in the future as well.
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Originally Posted by superswiss
On a related note, AMG has apparently killed the CLE 63 S E Performance and instead it's going to be a V8. There have been some recent spy shots showing a CLE 63 lacking the charging door on the rear bumper. This seems to confirm that the 4-banger E Performance CLE is no more. Article is in German, but I'm sure Google can translate it for those who don't speak German.

https://mbpassion.de/2024/04/strateg...it-4-zylinder/
Saw this, waiting to see more reports before I buy into it. Would be a game changer.
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Old Nov 2, 2024 | 02:28 PM
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Old Nov 11, 2024 | 03:19 PM
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Pretty good video. Love all the technical data provided. The car itself, however, I'll keep my mouth shut lol.
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Old Nov 11, 2024 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by WolfpackC63
Pretty good video. Love all the technical data provided. The car itself, however, I'll keep my mouth shut lol.
haha : )
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Here's another one. Ironically it threw a CEL while they were driving it. Just kinda brings it to the point. Similar to how the GT 63 coupe I was drifting recently in Germany threw a rear wheel steering error and wouldn't allow drift mode anymore. Just too many things that can break with no upside. Car is just not fun at the end of the day. Most of this review matches my experience with it, including the instrument cluster. So much gimmick going on, but the current gear is somewhere down low in the corner with a tiny font instead of front and center as it was in the 205 digital instrument cluster.


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Old Nov 13, 2024 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
Here's another one. Ironically it threw a CEL while they were driving it. Just kinda brings it to the point. Similar to how the GT 63 coupe I was drifting recently in Germany threw a rear wheel steering error and wouldn't allow drift mode anymore. Just too many things that can break with no upside. Car is just not fun at the end of the day. Most of this review matches my experience with it, including the instrument cluster. So much gimmick going on, but the current gear is somewhere down low in the corner with a tiny font instead of front and center as it was in the 205 digital instrument cluster.

https://youtu.be/CZvPkIv3kOA?si=eWkLNlEhDEsyIf7b
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Old Nov 13, 2024 | 04:37 PM
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- some of the reviews from Australian are the only positive ones such as drive.au etc

this one is too but everyone else( Autocar, eco etc) criticized the car

https://www.thedrive.com/car-reviews...t-drive-review

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Old Nov 13, 2024 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by smjc_99
- some of the reviews from Australian are the only positive ones such as drive.au etc

this one is too but everyone else( Autocar, eco etc) criticized the car

https://www.thedrive.com/car-reviews...t-drive-review
It impressed one journalist who likely won't actually buy the car. As has been pointed out, these journalist also are walking a careful line between an honest review and not pissing off the manufacturers who then won't invite them to the next all expenses paid car unveiling at an exotic resort.
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Old Nov 13, 2024 | 05:44 PM
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Smoking tire pretty much sums up the car. Had a c class for rental & the only impressive thing that I like is the ambient lighting and apple car play. Materials use in the interior is a downgrade. Very cheap hard plastic on the lower door and dash. We all know by now that there are cost cutting parts in our w205. What’s crazy is the price increase with the downgraded material used.
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Old Nov 13, 2024 | 06:27 PM
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ya, that could be a good reason and throttle house really gave a bad you tube review on the C63 SE . In my experience of driving the C63 SE a few times, the performance is inconsistent meaning the acceleration seems crazy fast sometimes and sometimes just fast ( I suspect something to do with the battery charge- crazy ) . The C63 SE drives better over the GLC63 SE as expected but the trunk space in the sedan is disappointing

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Inconsistent performance is the name of the game with these E Performance models. Partly due to the available state of charge and partly due to the required heat management of the battery. Max performance is not readily available in every mode and when it is, then only for 10 seconds at the time, afterwards the power to weight ratio is actually worse than the 205. AMG thought that people would enjoy role playing Lewis Hamilton doing energy management every lap, recuperating as much energy as possible going into the turns and then deploying it on the exit. They went as far as adding the Boost indicator in the instrument cluster which based on the track tells the driver exactly when to floor it, but all this really does is further underscoring the video game on wheels nature of this car. If I wanna drive a sim rig, I'll drive a sim rig, but otherwise I wanna actually drive a car where my skill still matters.
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Old Nov 16, 2024 | 08:38 PM
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Thanks for sharing your real world experience with it, I am surprised to be honest especially how almost every reviewer said it was a great improvement over the GT 63 S E Performance and the C 63 S E Performance.
I’m an actual owner and so tired of people knocking the car because they need a loud engine to feel powerful and like everyone is looking at them. Put the car in Race mode and it’s fast, really fast. In fact it blows the previous model off the road and its passing times are tremendous. It outpaces many loud cars people think are fast and personally I find that fun. Some people are about the sound, I’ll take the performance. I’ve read so much foolish comments from people who aren’t owners talking about the performance. Yes the car is heavy but review after review grudgingly admits it handles well and I can attest to this as well. I’ll be making some tweaks as well to increase the fun. To be clear I’m saying this is a great car to drive daily and have real performance that works great in real life driving. I look forward to dusting many a loud V8 in the days ahead LOL!

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@C63 SE Owner Did you just create an account to storm in here with your panties in a bunch? Next time introduce yourself, post some pictures and try to make some friends first before running down the door. Many of us have driven the car by now. Don't need to own it to know it. Speed isn't everything, neither is sound. You missed the point by quite a bit.
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Originally Posted by C63 SE Owner
I’m an actual owner and so tired of people knocking the car because they need a loud engine to feel powerful and like everyone is looking at them. Put the car in Race mode and it’s fast, really fast. In fact it blows the previous model off the road and its passing times are tremendous. It outpaces many loud cars people think are fast and personally I find that fun. Some people are about the sound, I’ll take the performance. I’ve read so much foolish comments from people who aren’t owners talking about the performance. Yes the car is heavy but review after review grudgingly admits it handles well and I can attest to this as well. I’ll be making some tweaks as well to increase the fun. To be clear I’m saying this is a great car to drive daily and have real performance that works great in real life driving. I look forward to dusting many a loud V8 in the days ahead LOL!
don't forget to post when it's speding time in the shop too! haha. I'n all seriousness, I can get an m5 comp under 10k miles for less than 100k. It'll handle better, sounds better, way better interior. I have a c205 c63s coupe with 720hp and 760 torque to the wheel for 60k hard driven miles now with no issues except for the bad ignition coils and purge valve. Can't say the same for this new one after some hard miles even without going with larger turbos. Congrats on buying an overpriced c43 hybrid

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Old Nov 17, 2024 | 09:00 AM
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@C63 SE Owner Did you just create an account to storm in here with your panties in a bunch? Next time introduce yourself, post some pictures and try to make some friends first before running down the door. Many of us have driven the car by now. Don't need to own it to know it. Speed isn't everything, neither is sound. You missed the point by quite a bit.
Hello @superswiss glad to meet you. Actually this is the first time in my life Ive joined any forum and made any comment. Perhaps you will grant me a little slack given my inexperience. You have put a lot of work into this forum and I’m sure have helped people along the way so that is commendable. I posted hoping to help that person that likes the car and wants to give it a chance but may not be confident enough to go against the critics. I love my new C63 S and was reacting to fierce criticism by some that may be based more on opinions than experience but I wasnt trying to call anyone out. In any event Im not a hot take guy but going along with the crowd didnt make sense to me here. I can see how forums are a place that can get combative pretty quick. Going forward, I’ll be focused on getting good insights from other people’s experiences and hoping I can share my experiences to help others as well. All the best, John
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Originally Posted by C63 SE Owner
Hello @superswiss glad to meet you. Actually this is the first time in my life Ive joined any forum and made any comment. Perhaps you will grant me a little slack given my inexperience. You have put a lot of work into this forum and I’m sure have helped people along the way so that is commendable. I posted hoping to help that person that likes the car and wants to give it a chance but may not be confident enough to go against the critics. I love my new C63 S and was reacting to fierce criticism by some that may be based more on opinions than experience but I wasnt trying to call anyone out. In any event Im not a hot take guy but going along with the crowd didnt make sense to me here. I can see how forums are a place that can get combative pretty quick. Going forward, I’ll be focused on getting good insights from other people’s experiences and hoping I can share my experiences to help others as well. All the best, John
You're being too nice to those people. It's not his forum and he doesn't make the rules how people present themselves. Attacking someone you don't even know for the car they had chosen or for any other choices they make deserves a resounding Fock you. Congrats on the great car!
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I did not get to drive it in Sport + as it is a delivery car, nonetheless I always vastly disappointed with the throttle response, there is a ton of delay. Combination of extremely heavy car with a hugely complicated powertrain. The transmission was slow, the ICE engine takes too long to wake up.
Hello @CarlosAMGBR , I can say from first hand experience that the throttle response is great in Sport + and Race mode. My view is that there is no reason to ever drive the car in hybrid mode. It’s also good to know that many of the reviews came from driving the car in hybrid mode. It’s the policy of some reviewers to do reviews from the daily driving setting but it’s also very reasonable to agree that AMG buyers like us won’t be driving it in hybrid mode.

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