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Talk to Justin Ringel in service. Tell him i sent you. They know my car well there.
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Thanks mate but I live in Dubai, so usually I order parts online, was wondering if there is any specific part number for the CCB so I can order them online.
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They are great... everyone once in a while they make a lot of noise, but I find that only happens when I don't get on the brakes hard for a while... In the winter time, I try not to get on the brakes too hard because the soft studded tires I run lock up really fast and I don't want to wear them out... Lol
But overall, no complaints.
Now just trying to find another brake pad to use them and maybe an iron rotor replacement for track days.
Also need to find out how much replacement rotors from Mercedes, costs.
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Hey Guys,
I have been doing a lot of research on brake pads and rotors lately.
Most likely moving away from carbon ceramic brakes in the front and running iron rotors because of replacement costs.
The carbon ceramic brakes will start to oxidize with time if you are tracking the car. Leading to a pretty hefty bill. If you follow the Prosche and Ferrari forums there is a lot of discussion about changing out rotors to iron rotors just for track days.
The Mercedes pads also suck and aren't the most aggressive or rotor friendly. I have been in touch with a number of companies and the only company that has pulled through so far is Carbotech.
Talking with Mike junior over there and he has been great to deal with! Right now they have Xp8, XP10 and XP12 pads that can be used for our vehicles. Just confirming pricing with him right now.
Hope that helps some of you.
I have been doing a lot of research on brake pads and rotors lately.
Most likely moving away from carbon ceramic brakes in the front and running iron rotors because of replacement costs.
The carbon ceramic brakes will start to oxidize with time if you are tracking the car. Leading to a pretty hefty bill. If you follow the Prosche and Ferrari forums there is a lot of discussion about changing out rotors to iron rotors just for track days.
The Mercedes pads also suck and aren't the most aggressive or rotor friendly. I have been in touch with a number of companies and the only company that has pulled through so far is Carbotech.
Talking with Mike junior over there and he has been great to deal with! Right now they have Xp8, XP10 and XP12 pads that can be used for our vehicles. Just confirming pricing with him right now.
Hope that helps some of you.
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Porterfield or Carbotech.
Carbotech has more options in terms of braking compounds and have heard some great things about their pads.
I just ordered a set of XP8's and dealt with Mike Jr. He was great to deal with and really fast getting back to me... I was in a rush to get them before the next track days as my rear pads were low and making a lot of noise.
Turned out that the inside rear pad was actually metal on metal, not brake pad check light as the sensors were on the other side... Looks like Mercedes is replacing my rear rotors and pads on warranty. They should be wearing evenly, caliper was not releasing properly. I will switch out the rear pads for the next race day.
Carbotech has more options in terms of braking compounds and have heard some great things about their pads.
I just ordered a set of XP8's and dealt with Mike Jr. He was great to deal with and really fast getting back to me... I was in a rush to get them before the next track days as my rear pads were low and making a lot of noise.
Turned out that the inside rear pad was actually metal on metal, not brake pad check light as the sensors were on the other side... Looks like Mercedes is replacing my rear rotors and pads on warranty. They should be wearing evenly, caliper was not releasing properly. I will switch out the rear pads for the next race day.
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Porterfield or Carbotech.
Carbotech has more options in terms of braking compounds and have heard some great things about their pads.
I just ordered a set of XP8's and dealt with Mike Jr. He was great to deal with and really fast getting back to me... I was in a rush to get them before the next track days as my rear pads were low and making a lot of noise.
Turned out that the inside rear pad was actually metal on metal, not brake pad check light as the sensors were on the other side... Looks like Mercedes is replacing my rear rotors and pads on warranty. They should be wearing evenly, caliper was not releasing properly. I will switch out the rear pads for the next race day.
Carbotech has more options in terms of braking compounds and have heard some great things about their pads.
I just ordered a set of XP8's and dealt with Mike Jr. He was great to deal with and really fast getting back to me... I was in a rush to get them before the next track days as my rear pads were low and making a lot of noise.
Turned out that the inside rear pad was actually metal on metal, not brake pad check light as the sensors were on the other side... Looks like Mercedes is replacing my rear rotors and pads on warranty. They should be wearing evenly, caliper was not releasing properly. I will switch out the rear pads for the next race day.
StopTech apparently makes them as well. Did you email them? I tried calling them now but didn't get a response.
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Called them last week, no answer. If you do manage to get a hold of them, see if they are making replacement rotors for the front Carbon Ceramics! I'm getting nervous tracking the car with them... I would prefer not to spend $12k replacing rotors.
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Update....Stoptech ONLY makes front brake pads. I installed them today. The part number is 104.12910. You can buy them from Tire Rack. The fronts are around $56.00
CarboTech is in the process of making the rears; the cost for the rears is around $250.00
CarboTech is in the process of making the rears; the cost for the rears is around $250.00
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RB offers the following options:
1. 400mm front iron rotor replacement for swapping factory CCB to iron.
2. 390mm Carbon Ceramic front rotor kit directly replacing factory iron rotor (use OE red calipers.
3. 360mm rear CCB rotors upgrade OE iron rotors
4. 360mm rear light weight two piece rotor replacing OE heavy 1 pc rotor.
5. Complete brake system built with RB 6/4 piston caliper brake kits
RacingBrake has complete brake option for your C63 whether you are looking for just replacement, or upgrading.
CCM Rotor Kit:
http://www.racingbrake.com/C63-AMG-C...AMG-s/7219.htm
Iron Rotor Replacement & Brake Kit:
http://www.racingbrake.com/category-s/7261.htm
We also have excellent brake pads to go with the rotor kit (except the rear pad for floating OE calipers).
PM or call us at 714-871-6392
1. 400mm front iron rotor replacement for swapping factory CCB to iron.
2. 390mm Carbon Ceramic front rotor kit directly replacing factory iron rotor (use OE red calipers.
3. 360mm rear CCB rotors upgrade OE iron rotors
4. 360mm rear light weight two piece rotor replacing OE heavy 1 pc rotor.
5. Complete brake system built with RB 6/4 piston caliper brake kits
RacingBrake has complete brake option for your C63 whether you are looking for just replacement, or upgrading.
CCM Rotor Kit:
http://www.racingbrake.com/C63-AMG-C...AMG-s/7219.htm
Iron Rotor Replacement & Brake Kit:
http://www.racingbrake.com/category-s/7261.htm
We also have excellent brake pads to go with the rotor kit (except the rear pad for floating OE calipers).
PM or call us at 714-871-6392
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RB offers the following options:
1. 400mm front iron rotor replacement for swapping factory CCB to iron.
2. 390mm Carbon Ceramic front rotor kit directly replacing factory iron rotor (use OE red calipers.
3. 360mm rear CCB rotors upgrade OE iron rotors
4. 360mm rear light weight two piece rotor replacing OE heavy 1 pc rotor.
5. Complete brake system built with RB 6/4 piston caliper brake kits
RacingBrake has complete brake option for your C63 whether you are looking for just replacement, or upgrading.
CCM Rotor Kit:
http://www.racingbrake.com/C63-AMG-C...AMG-s/7219.htm
Iron Rotor Replacement & Brake Kit:
http://www.racingbrake.com/category-s/7261.htm
We also have excellent brake pads to go with the rotor kit (except the rear pad for floating OE calipers).
PM or call us at 714-871-6392
1. 400mm front iron rotor replacement for swapping factory CCB to iron.
2. 390mm Carbon Ceramic front rotor kit directly replacing factory iron rotor (use OE red calipers.
3. 360mm rear CCB rotors upgrade OE iron rotors
4. 360mm rear light weight two piece rotor replacing OE heavy 1 pc rotor.
5. Complete brake system built with RB 6/4 piston caliper brake kits
RacingBrake has complete brake option for your C63 whether you are looking for just replacement, or upgrading.
CCM Rotor Kit:
http://www.racingbrake.com/C63-AMG-C...AMG-s/7219.htm
Iron Rotor Replacement & Brake Kit:
http://www.racingbrake.com/category-s/7261.htm
We also have excellent brake pads to go with the rotor kit (except the rear pad for floating OE calipers).
PM or call us at 714-871-6392
Links aren't working on your website and doesn't specify the W205 C63 AMG S anywhere, just on your CCM link.
Are you sure you have iron rotors for the B07 Carbon Ceramic brake package? Talked to you guys two months ago and you had nothing back then?
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Carbotech does NOT make the rear pad...they don't have the right identification number to replicate the factory pads. I have their pad up front and stock pad in back and the difference in brake dust is astonishing.
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They should have for me by the end of the week. They needed to take all of the measurements in order to make them. I mixed up Porterfield & Carbotech.
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OK so, for anyone that drives aggressively, do NOT, and I repeat do NOT get the normal steel brakes when you buy your C63. Make sure you have CCB.
My car barely has 12000 miles and I'm already at my 2nd set of pads. They barely lasted 6000 miles. This is just plain unacceptable.
The OEM pads are garbage. I'm fighting with Mercedes to see if I can get them to offer a CCB replacement in the front. My dealership has already offered me a full free brake job (all corners, rotors and pads) but I don't think that's enough if it's going to keep happening every 6k miles.
I have never tracked the car, this is just with normal day to day aggressive driving.
I do have a track day coming up on October 24th and this is getting me worried.
What are the best aftermarket pads for steel rotors? Will put them on during the track day.
Thanks.
My car barely has 12000 miles and I'm already at my 2nd set of pads. They barely lasted 6000 miles. This is just plain unacceptable.
The OEM pads are garbage. I'm fighting with Mercedes to see if I can get them to offer a CCB replacement in the front. My dealership has already offered me a full free brake job (all corners, rotors and pads) but I don't think that's enough if it's going to keep happening every 6k miles.
I have never tracked the car, this is just with normal day to day aggressive driving.
I do have a track day coming up on October 24th and this is getting me worried.
What are the best aftermarket pads for steel rotors? Will put them on during the track day.
Thanks.
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If you have not yet read the Thunder Hill track day thread, You should before you go to Thermal. You should at least put in high temp. brake fluid and have new hi quality after market pads all around.
Enjoy Thermal as it is a nice track.
If you have not yet read the Thunder Hill track day thread, You should before you go to Thermal. You should at least put in high temp. brake fluid and have new hi quality after market pads all around.
Enjoy Thermal as it is a nice track.
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i have done ACS and Thermal with my C63s. No issues. No big wear challenges. They squeak now after 8,000 miles.
I used STOPTEK on my e92 Track car. I have also heard others having pad wear issues on NON CCB brakes.
I used STOPTEK on my e92 Track car. I have also heard others having pad wear issues on NON CCB brakes.
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OK so, for anyone that drives aggressively, do NOT, and I repeat do NOT get the normal steel brakes when you buy your C63. Make sure you have CCB.
My car barely has 12000 miles and I'm already at my 2nd set of pads. They barely lasted 6000 miles. This is just plain unacceptable.
The OEM pads are garbage. I'm fighting with Mercedes to see if I can get them to offer a CCB replacement in the front. My dealership has already offered me a full free brake job (all corners, rotors and pads) but I don't think that's enough if it's going to keep happening every 6k miles.
I have never tracked the car, this is just with normal day to day aggressive driving.
I do have a track day coming up on October 24th and this is getting me worried.
What are the best aftermarket pads for steel rotors? Will put them on during the track day.
Thanks.
My car barely has 12000 miles and I'm already at my 2nd set of pads. They barely lasted 6000 miles. This is just plain unacceptable.
The OEM pads are garbage. I'm fighting with Mercedes to see if I can get them to offer a CCB replacement in the front. My dealership has already offered me a full free brake job (all corners, rotors and pads) but I don't think that's enough if it's going to keep happening every 6k miles.
I have never tracked the car, this is just with normal day to day aggressive driving.
I do have a track day coming up on October 24th and this is getting me worried.
What are the best aftermarket pads for steel rotors? Will put them on during the track day.
Thanks.
I'd be careful with that comment... And I have the CCB and am looking for iron rotors to replace them. A couple of reasons why...
1) The CCB if you just plan on driving you car on the street with very limited track days, maybe once a year, then yes the CCB's are worth it
2) If you plan on tracking your car more frequently 7-8 times year lets say... you will be replacing the carbon ceramics after two years if not sooner.
3) The cost of the CC Rotors from Mercedes $6000 each! You can buy a lot of iron rotors and get very similar if not better braking performance if you're running the right pad for the track...
4) Even for aggressive street driving, you just need better pads. The stock Mercedes pads suck and on the CC Rotors, finding pads that work well is also very difficult for this car...
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When was the last time you spoke with them??? I'm hoping you're wrong as I just took delivery of a set and plan on installing them this weekend. Will report back as soon as I have the OEM pads off the car...
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Thanks for doing this as I have been working with Porterfield and they have not been able to send me a correct set of rear track pads. I received an email from them today that they now have the correct ones and will be sending them next week. I believe I have you to thank for this. So THANK YOU!!!
I was going to send them my old factory set but looks like you beat me to it.
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JP,
Thanks for doing this as I have been working with Porterfield and they have not been able to send me a correct set of rear track pads. I received an email from them today that they now have the correct ones and will be sending them next week. I believe I have you to thank for this. So THANK YOU!!!
I was going to send them my old factory set but looks like you beat me to it.
Kurt
Thanks for doing this as I have been working with Porterfield and they have not been able to send me a correct set of rear track pads. I received an email from them today that they now have the correct ones and will be sending them next week. I believe I have you to thank for this. So THANK YOU!!!
I was going to send them my old factory set but looks like you beat me to it.
Kurt
You are correct. The person who originally measured the pads measured them incorrectly. Hence why they weren't available. That is why I sent them the pads; I did not want to be responsible for the wrong measurements. My shipped out today and I will install them next week.
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Hey Guys,
Had a chance to get into the garage today to check out the new brakes from Carbotech.
Attached are some comparison photos of the stock pad with the carbotech pad. I installed them and then had to pull them off and install the stock pads again as I didn't have enough time to swap them over and do the other side... damn nursery shopping.
Had a chance to get into the garage today to check out the new brakes from Carbotech.
Attached are some comparison photos of the stock pad with the carbotech pad. I installed them and then had to pull them off and install the stock pads again as I didn't have enough time to swap them over and do the other side... damn nursery shopping.
