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Old 05-10-2015, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sales@eurocharged.com
As most of you might have heard, Eurocharged purchased yet another AMG to further our product line. We picked up a C63S and will be testing the products we have developed and posting the results here!

You can expect to see cooling upgrades, exhaust upgrades (including downpipes), turbo upgrades......and of course, our world famous ECU software!

Here are some videos of the baseline dyno testing we did. Please note that our dyno is the most advanced, top of the line dyno that DynoJet makes. It is AWD and the front and rear rollers are linked via the DynoJet LINX system. Our dyno also has full eddy current load capabilities!

To ensure there is no confusion, I would like to point out that there are no AWD C63's. This car is RWD. I know most of you know this, be are asked on a daily basis about this.

Eurocharged has finished development on our shop 2015 M3 as well. The M3 was traded in for the C63S. We can provide you with real world comparisons of the M3/M4 vs C63/C63S. So far, the C63S seems to be the top dog! stock is faster than our EC575 M3 (Stage II Tune, Downpipes, Intake).

Enjoy the videos!! We will be uploading more content on a regular basis!

Mercedes C63S AMG - DYNO TESTING - YouTube

C63S AMG Dyno Testing @ Eurocharged!! - YouTube

C63S AMG - Dyno Run - Exhaust Shot - YouTube

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As always, if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask!

I'll post a graph of the C63S stock dyno and the tuned M3 Dyno this week!

Can't wait to the the M3 dyno results. My buddy just put his on the Dyno and it made 420 at the wheels. Did you get the same result?

Did you break in the motor for the C63 or did you just throw her up on the Dyno?
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Impress stuff!! Keep it coming; can't wait to see what the M177 engine max potential is. 467 to the wheels bone stock is INSANE.
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Originally Posted by OC6.3AMG
Multiplying by 1.18 would give you an increase of 18% whereas dividing by .82 gives you what you have left of the total power output after the powertrain loss....hopefully this makes sense

They are close in end result but the division is the correct way of calculating the described relationship.
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Originally Posted by WWMIndy
Multiplying by 1.18 would give you an increase of 18% whereas dividing by .82 gives you what you have left of the total power output after the powertrain loss....hopefully this makes sense

They are close in end result but the division is the correct way of calculating the described relationship.
I see what you did there, however you guys are both over thinking it. I think Mercedes is right on the money when they advertise 503 hp | 516 lb-ft (7% loss crank to wheels)
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Originally Posted by OC6.3AMG
I see what you did there, however you guys are both over thinking it. I think Mercedes is right on the money when they advertise 503 hp | 516 lb-ft (7% loss crank to wheels)
Correct, I am probably way off on the loss crank to the wheels due to this being a cutting edge car. That makes sense.

But whatever the figure, this is a monster of a car!
It is an AMG, so not surprised.
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I'm already planning to sell my coupe up to my family members to lease a C63.

I would love to take a base C63 with mechanical LSD.. tune and E85 mix. Call it a day..

The C63S would be ideal, but don't need the extra goodies.


With a tune.. some E85, i can see 550+ RWHP and closer to 600RWTQ.

great development EC!
Old 05-11-2015, 01:45 AM
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Awesome initial tuning vids - there's obviously going to be mega more over the coming years ahead from this new AMG powerplant

Love the last vid (from the engine bay) which shows the turbos 'hot end' housings turning red hot towards the end of the run a welcome familiar sight of FI turbo engines
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the cars are out? I called dealers and they said 2-3 months out...!
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the cars are out? I called dealers and they said 2-3 months out...!
I think you are looking at a 2016 at this point. I believe all 2015s have been claimed/sold.
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Those are some good numbers. Thanks for the comparison charts as well.
What is the realistic engine hp number.
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Originally Posted by Arcoril
Awesome!

Did you guys have any chance to weigh the car? I'd love to see some real world measurements on this beast.
Ok just got the weights without any occupants.

FL 1115 Lbs FR 1052 Lbs
27.6% 26.0%
RL 919 Lbs RR 959 Lbs
22.7% 23.7%

Total 4045 Lbs

Factory Door Sticker Says
GVWR 4894 Lbs
GAWR Front 2403 Lbs
GAWR Rear 2524 Lbs
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Originally Posted by ThomasBrennan
Ok just got the weights without any occupants.

FL 1115 Lbs FR 1052 Lbs
27.6% 26.0%
RL 919 Lbs RR 959 Lbs
22.7% 23.7%

Total 4045 Lbs

Factory Door Sticker Says
GVWR 4894 Lbs
GAWR Front 2403 Lbs
GAWR Rear 2524 Lbs
That's heavier then a lot of numbers that have been posted. Does the car have a pano?
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That's heavier then a lot of numbers that have been posted. Does the car have a pano?
Yeah holy **** I hope their car has pano lol

Edit: I watched the first video and it looks like it does have pano. Thank God.

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Yeah holy **** I hope their car has pano lol

Edit: I watched the first video and it looks like it does have pano. Thank God.
Pano + full tank of gas?
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Yeah holy **** I hope their car has pano lol

Edit: I watched the first video and it looks like it does have pano. Thank God.
Yes it does!!
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Originally Posted by zibby43
Pano + full tank of gas?

Yes, sorry. Pano + Full tank!
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That's still significantly heavier than what most had expected with the pano roof and full tank of gas
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That's still significantly heavier than what most had expected with the pano roof and full tank of gas


How much weight is the pano roof?
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That's still significantly heavier than what most had expected with the pano roof and full tank of gas
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How much weight is the pano roof?
Some of Benz's panoramic roofs weigh up to 221 lbs.

A full tank of gas = another 100 lbs.
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How much weight is the pano roof?
I've heard 40 KG/88 LBS from the private lounge team.
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I figured that car would top the 4,000 pound mark. Does your car have the AMG Seats or Standard seats?
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Some of Benz's panoramic roofs weigh up to 221 lbs.

A full tank of gas = another 100 lbs.
Thanks Zibby! With that, I agree with JP -- this weight is about right.

I can't explain the math but MBUSA website shows the curb weight at 3,924 lbs.
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Thanks Zibby! With that, I agree with JP -- this weight is about right.

I can't explain the math but MBUSA website shows the curb weight at 3,924 lbs.
What ever happened to the official certification weights that were just recently released?

Official Certification Weights:

C63:
- 3729 lbs Shipping Weight (10% fuel load)
- 3829 lbs Curb Weight (100% fuel load

C63 S:
- 3755 lbs Shipping Weight (10% fuel load)
- 3855 lbs Curb Weight (100% fuel load)

It would be pretty disappointing if the W205 ends up weighing more than the W204 after MB-AMG touted significant weight savings with this new generation!
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Originally Posted by AlexZTuned
I've heard 40 KG/88 LBS from the private lounge team.
Really? Im on the forum actively and haven't seen them talk about the pano roof weight.
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Crank hp

Had my new C63 S at RENNtech's in Germany, Superflow 880 with proper losses measurement. No stupid losses guessing...
STOCK it came out to 532PS at crank instead of the rated 510, basically the same with my GT-S.
WHP was at around 460 if I remember correctly... But I remember them saying and read it many times here and there, that whp are never comparable.
Makes sense: My previous cars were always on a MAHA dyno and here losses were crazy high and whp very low... but the crak reading made sense.

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