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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 05:29 AM
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And I agree the car now handles the twisty's much better. Even better than the 507 Edition did.
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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 05:40 AM
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And I agree the car now handles the twisty's much better. Even better than the 507 Edition did.
You are saying that in your opinion the new C63s sedan handles better then the 507 coupe. I only test drove the new C63s and I thought it felt light on its feet and flat thru turns.
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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Rorie
The car Motortrend used obviously did not have the updated tranny software when they say

"Driven in anger, it reacted perfectly. Driven softly about town, it suddenly got the dumb. Even in Race mode, it would become immune to input when starting from a stop."

Yes, the car was doing this before the early July software update. Now the car does not have this problem.
I didn't understand that quote fully. Was he saying that he attempted to drive around town softly in Race mode? If so, Race mode was probably designed to react that way. It's not designed to behave like Comfort does when you're driving like that around town. But, I could be misinterpreting it all.
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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mister2d
I didn't understand that quote fully. Was he saying that he attempted to drive around town softly in Race mode? If so, Race mode was probably designed to react that way. It's not designed to behave like Comfort does when you're driving like that around town. But, I could be misinterpreting it all.
I believe Motor Trend had problems in comfort but liked it when pushed.
I felt the same they did during a early test drive but could not duplicate it on a later test drive and I believe now that it had the updated Softwear
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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RDOCA
I believe Motor Trend had problems in comfort but liked it when pushed.
I felt the same they did during a early test drive but could not duplicate it on a later test drive and I believe now that it had the updated Softwear
There is a similar issue on my wife's W204 C63. In comfort mode from a stop it either crawls or jumps. It is difficult to modulate between those two. With various updates, this is not a problem in S+ mode. My solution is always to drive in S+ mode ;-)


On my C63S E1, I do not experience this issue. This is one of the many improvements in the transmission that I noticed.


Thus, I agree that the magazines may be working with cars with older software. This may also explain some of the slower acceleration results as my car needed a software update to correct an overly rich condition which could diminish overall engine power.
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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 03:24 PM
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Hi everyone, just picked up my ED1 and I'm loving it. Quick question, how do I know if my car has been updated with the new tranny software or not?
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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ih8slowcars
Hi everyone, just picked up my ED1 and I'm loving it. Quick question, how do I know if my car has been updated with the new tranny software or not?
You would have to have the dealer hook up to it and see what you have.
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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Will617
You are saying that in your opinion the new C63s sedan handles better then the 507 coupe. I only test drove the new C63s and I thought it felt light on its feet and flat thru turns.
Well, I dropped off my 507, borrowed my car before plated and paid for, and went around the same corners and honestly felt that the new car felt a little more planted.

The 507 was a beast. It was loud, and fast. But I still felt it was tail happy in the corners. This one, I am not sure, it seems more sure footed in corners. My feeling is that they have moved closer to the BMW M set up. It's hard not to when you decide to do a smaller block with twin turbo. They are trying to retain the feeling of the old car with the exhaust sound.

Motortrend's numbers indicate the car is faster than a 507, and almost as good as a C63 Black Series in corners. So to me it is clear this new C63S is more agile than the 507.

Motortrend also got some good numbers in straight line. So I assume once I push it, it should feel faster than the 507.

One thing, with the smaller block, and the turbo, the car's exhaust is more noticeable and lots of pops and interesting downshift noises. Much more entertaining to listen to while you drive. The 507 sounded great, but on the highway or around town the thing was always in the low rpm range, just purring along, unless you hit the gas. With the new car, in every day driving around town it is a bit more entertaining.
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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 05:26 PM
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I believe Motor Trend had problems in comfort but liked it when pushed.
I felt the same they did during a early test drive but could not duplicate it on a later test drive and I believe now that it had the updated Softwear
I borrowed my car when it came in, they put a dealer plate on it. The car was not downshifting and at low speeds the rpm was too low and the turbos would not kick in.

I mentioned that when I return the car an hour later. Then two days later when I picked the car up, the dealership commented they had just installed an update on the software that had just been sent out by Mercedes. It was to recalibrate the shifts.

When I drove the car home, it was clear this software update did the job because the car did not hesitate at all. It was in the right gear, and to optimize turbo performance, each and ever time.

So I figure the Motortrend test car had to be one that had yet to get this software update as I can completely relate to what they are saying based on the first drive of my car.
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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RDOCA
You would have to have the dealer hook up to it and see what you have.
If you coast to a slow stop, then accelerate, and get no power at all, basically mashing your pedal to the floor, then you do not have the software update. Trust me, if the car is not accelerating and feels like **** you will know. It's really obvious if you have the problem.

That is what I found.

At complete stops, the car would accelerate just fine because at a complete stop it would go down to first gear, but it you were slowing down, and say doing 10 miles an hour, say 15 to 20 kilometres an hour, you'd look down and realize you were still in 5th gear, way too high, then hit the gas to accelerate, nothing. The car was at a too high gear, thus the engine would be at too low RPM, and at a low RPM your exhaust pressure is low, thus the turbos have no exhaust to spool them up. So the thing was unresponsive for a few seconds.

I had the dealer in the car, took him to an area where it happened to me to recreate it, then he saw me press the pedal and it did nothing at all for a few seconds then slowly started to accelerate.

Car has no hesitation now. So trust me, if you have the problem it should be very obvious. If you are asking do you have the problem, chances are you've had the software update.

Also, my understanding is that cars delivered since the first week of July are having these updates installed.
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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 07:00 PM
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I still can't get past the rounded edges and looks of the W205 compared to my Edition 507.

But that said, WOW what a ride!!!! I spent all-day Sat in a Edition 1 and with plenty of seat time. Impressions:

Such a nice feel through the steering wheel. The car has an incredible engine and sophisticated feel. Ride quality is excellent and the seats were phenomenal. This 63 had the upgraded seats(I guess that they come with the Ed. 1 pkg). It seems like so much of the feel and desired level of aggressiveness is completely adjustable and up to the driver. There are all kinds of variations and settings to work with. And the ability to save these settings, again, WOW!!! I found myself a few times internally saying, "Well, I can't see the rounded body panels from behind the steering wheel." I really took a liking to the new platform. However, I'm not rushing out to get rid of my 507 anytime soon. I am certainly sold on the M177, the suspension, and the way the car feels and is adjustable. The electronic LSD is so very nice as well. I guess other than exterior softness, I had an issue with the interior(except for the seats).

My question to you guys who have already been living with yours day-in-and-day-out, how are you finding the interior materials and functionality? I had a little trouble with the placement of the center display. I just couldn't get over the fact that it was right there and the odd incorporation it has into the dash. I'm on my 3rd C63. The 1st, you could completely retract the display and the other 2, the display is built into the dash and isn't a "separate" component and restricted none of the windshield or field of vision. However, what output you do get from the new display is so crisp and slick. I just don't care for the placement.

And the sound system............it kills the outgoing Harmon/Kardon. It's a huge upgrade. I am sure that most of you guys are thoroughly enjoying. Also just curious, how many of you are coming over from a W204?
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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 07:13 PM
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I came out of a 507 Edition.

Yes, I forgot to say, the seats, they are great. The dash feels more wrapped around you as well.

The sound system, I need to mess with the settings but it clearly has more bass. You can feel the bass in the footwells as well. I liked the way the HK system sounded even without having the adjust it. But not sure about the new one. It seems to lack mid-tones. Something. I think it is a case of me needing to adjust things on it. Just have not gotten to that yet.
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Old Aug 2, 2015 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jordanaf
I still can't get past the rounded edges and looks of the W205 compared to my Edition 507.

But that said, WOW what a ride!!!! I spent all-day Sat in a Edition 1 and with plenty of seat time. Impressions:

Such a nice feel through the steering wheel. The car has an incredible engine and sophisticated feel. Ride quality is excellent and the seats were phenomenal. This 63 had the upgraded seats(I guess that they come with the Ed. 1 pkg). It seems like so much of the feel and desired level of aggressiveness is completely adjustable and up to the driver. There are all kinds of variations and settings to work with. And the ability to save these settings, again, WOW!!! I found myself a few times internally saying, "Well, I can't see the rounded body panels from behind the steering wheel." I really took a liking to the new platform. However, I'm not rushing out to get rid of my 507 anytime soon. I am certainly sold on the M177, the suspension, and the way the car feels and is adjustable. The electronic LSD is so very nice as well. I guess other than exterior softness, I had an issue with the interior(except for the seats).

My question to you guys who have already been living with yours day-in-and-day-out, how are you finding the interior materials and functionality? I had a little trouble with the placement of the center display. I just couldn't get over the fact that it was right there and the odd incorporation it has into the dash. I'm on my 3rd C63. The 1st, you could completely retract the display and the other 2, the display is built into the dash and isn't a "separate" component and restricted none of the windshield or field of vision. However, what output you do get from the new display is so crisp and slick. I just don't care for the placement.

And the sound system............it kills the outgoing Harmon/Kardon. It's a huge upgrade. I am sure that most of you guys are thoroughly enjoying. Also just curious, how many of you are coming over from a W204?
I'm 2000 miles in, new diff fluid, and loving the car. Especially the interior. Feels like I'm sitting in the lounge of an expensive resort. The screen doesn't bother me. I actually like the placement. And the resolution is so sharp. The MBRACE internet sucks cuz it's so slow. I'm definitely not extending it past the trial. I'm coming from a E63 AMG, and the only thing I miss is that Airmatic suspension. God I miss that. lol
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