Window creaking when shut? Anyone else?
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Window creaking when shut? Anyone else?
I've noticed a pretty annoying creaking in each front dvr/psgr window with windows up. I've isolated it to the window's over travelling with too much pressure into the frame, causing a bind, and annoying creaking noise over NVH.
If you just tap the windows open slightly it releases some of the pressure and no more noise.
Pardon all the detail above.... but I hope this gives some clarity.
Anyone notice this?
Is the set-point for the up position of the windows adjustable by MB star?
I'll quiz my svc advisor at next visit.
I can deal with this for the time being by manually opening the windows a CH... just to relieve the compression a bit..... but that should not be required?
I've had cheapo fox body mustangs with out this type of problem and the fox mustang had 140K miles on it lOL......
If you just tap the windows open slightly it releases some of the pressure and no more noise.
Pardon all the detail above.... but I hope this gives some clarity.
Anyone notice this?
Is the set-point for the up position of the windows adjustable by MB star?
I'll quiz my svc advisor at next visit.
I can deal with this for the time being by manually opening the windows a CH... just to relieve the compression a bit..... but that should not be required?
I've had cheapo fox body mustangs with out this type of problem and the fox mustang had 140K miles on it lOL......
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I've noticed a pretty annoying creaking in each front dvr/psgr window with windows up. I've isolated it to the window's over travelling with too much pressure into the frame, causing a bind, and annoying creaking noise over NVH.
If you just tap the windows open slightly it releases some of the pressure and no more noise.
Pardon all the detail above.... but I hope this gives some clarity.
Anyone notice this?
Is the set-point for the up position of the windows adjustable by MB star?
I'll quiz my svc advisor at next visit.
I can deal with this for the time being by manually opening the windows a CH... just to relieve the compression a bit..... but that should not be required?
I've had cheapo fox body mustangs with out this type of problem and the fox mustang had 140K miles on it lOL......
If you just tap the windows open slightly it releases some of the pressure and no more noise.
Pardon all the detail above.... but I hope this gives some clarity.
Anyone notice this?
Is the set-point for the up position of the windows adjustable by MB star?
I'll quiz my svc advisor at next visit.
I can deal with this for the time being by manually opening the windows a CH... just to relieve the compression a bit..... but that should not be required?
I've had cheapo fox body mustangs with out this type of problem and the fox mustang had 140K miles on it lOL......
I bet its your door frame seals at the top edge. If they are a felt type material, which i bet they are, this is the problem. Have a look, and if you have the felt strips, get some silicon spray, spray some into the can lid, then brush this onto the felt parts. Then, polish the door shuts, where the seals meet them, and im sure thats your problem, regards, SIMON.
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Yes this is a relatively common issue in the UK on the Porsche 911 (996 & 997). The advice above is spot on, just be careful not to overdo it and let any silicon spray get into the lower seals as they'll cause streaking to the window going up and down. It's a very infuriating issue to face on a new car. Hope you get it resolved.
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Dropping 2015 C63S at dealership for svc on this issue Thursday. I'm @ 2700 miles.
The noise goes away if I releive the pressure of the window in the frame by hitting the down button ever so slightly..... it releases some of the pre-load. The window presses up so hard it buldges out the trim at the base of the window...... so I suspect I have a build issue. Something out of alignment or adjustment.
The noise goes away if I releive the pressure of the window in the frame by hitting the down button ever so slightly..... it releases some of the pre-load. The window presses up so hard it buldges out the trim at the base of the window...... so I suspect I have a build issue. Something out of alignment or adjustment.
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Dropping 2015 C63S at dealership for svc on this issue Thursday. I'm @ 2700 miles.
The noise goes away if I releive the pressure of the window in the frame by hitting the down button ever so slightly..... it releases some of the pre-load. The window presses up so hard it buldges out the trim at the base of the window...... so I suspect I have a build issue. Something out of alignment or adjustment.
The noise goes away if I releive the pressure of the window in the frame by hitting the down button ever so slightly..... it releases some of the pre-load. The window presses up so hard it buldges out the trim at the base of the window...... so I suspect I have a build issue. Something out of alignment or adjustment.
Its the felt at the top of the seals on the door itself. You do not have any build issues. This is a well known fact, with problems of this type. I first noticed this back in 2006, on a ford Focus ST i had, and every four door car, with this arrangement of seal, can have this problem. Just pop to a motor factors, and get some silicon spray, and give it a try, regards, SIMON.
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Window creaking when shut? Anyone else?
Yes, same issue here.
Noise has got steadily worse and only noticed today that it stops with the window down.
I'll try the silicone spray later this week and see if it resolves things.
Thanks for the tip!
Noise has got steadily worse and only noticed today that it stops with the window down.
I'll try the silicone spray later this week and see if it resolves things.
Thanks for the tip!
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I'll try it... but I don't see how silicone spray on the outside of the door-frame is related to a window that closes INSIDE the door frame..... are you saying by closing the window the door-frame is distorting enough to rub on the car frame?
in any case....... a shot of silicone is cheap test.
in any case....... a shot of silicone is cheap test.
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This was a problem on several BMW models I had, creaking sound caused by the felt edge of the door inside door frame where it meets the metal, when the window is fully up. Only lube the felt area.
I used to lube it twice a year, that did the trick.
I used to lube it twice a year, that did the trick.
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W204 - It has very good build quality as you would expect at the end of it's model life.
We did encounter a faulty fuel pump at only 200 miles.... but chalk this up to a sub-vendor part. Not AMG. It's been to 1 track day and daily driving in H-town by my lead-foot wife.
I drive both cars and her's is built like a tank. No annoying squeaks rattles, elec issues.... nothing.
W205 - I've had this car for 2700 miles so far. I had to have the trim pcs on each side below the doors replaced, as they were falling off. The double sided tape was failing........ the replacement items were installed with a more permanent method by my dealer, and it looks perfect now. I've yet to have any sort of elec, or engine problem. I've only had this recent squeak in the window area... which I'm hoping my application of some silicone based tire dressing will solve. We'll see on my trip to work tomorrow if the squeak stops.
On fit finish.... the newer car has it.
On solid feel of doors.... the older car has it.
On tq and seat-o-pants meter..... the newer car wins.
On steering feel..... the older car wins out IMHO.
Hope this helps.
We did encounter a faulty fuel pump at only 200 miles.... but chalk this up to a sub-vendor part. Not AMG. It's been to 1 track day and daily driving in H-town by my lead-foot wife.
I drive both cars and her's is built like a tank. No annoying squeaks rattles, elec issues.... nothing.
W205 - I've had this car for 2700 miles so far. I had to have the trim pcs on each side below the doors replaced, as they were falling off. The double sided tape was failing........ the replacement items were installed with a more permanent method by my dealer, and it looks perfect now. I've yet to have any sort of elec, or engine problem. I've only had this recent squeak in the window area... which I'm hoping my application of some silicone based tire dressing will solve. We'll see on my trip to work tomorrow if the squeak stops.
On fit finish.... the newer car has it.
On solid feel of doors.... the older car has it.
On tq and seat-o-pants meter..... the newer car wins.
On steering feel..... the older car wins out IMHO.
Hope this helps.
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W204 - It has very good build quality as you would expect at the end of it's model life.
We did encounter a faulty fuel pump at only 200 miles.... but chalk this up to a sub-vendor part. Not AMG. It's been to 1 track day and daily driving in H-town by my lead-foot wife.
I drive both cars and her's is built like a tank. No annoying squeaks rattles, elec issues.... nothing.
W205 - I've had this car for 2700 miles so far. I had to have the trim pcs on each side below the doors replaced, as they were falling off. The double sided tape was failing........ the replacement items were installed with a more permanent method by my dealer, and it looks perfect now. I've yet to have any sort of elec, or engine problem. I've only had this recent squeak in the window area... which I'm hoping my application of some silicone based tire dressing will solve. We'll see on my trip to work tomorrow if the squeak stops.
On fit finish.... the newer car has it.
On solid feel of doors.... the older car has it.
On tq and seat-o-pants meter..... the newer car wins.
On steering feel..... the older car wins out IMHO.
Hope this helps.
We did encounter a faulty fuel pump at only 200 miles.... but chalk this up to a sub-vendor part. Not AMG. It's been to 1 track day and daily driving in H-town by my lead-foot wife.
I drive both cars and her's is built like a tank. No annoying squeaks rattles, elec issues.... nothing.
W205 - I've had this car for 2700 miles so far. I had to have the trim pcs on each side below the doors replaced, as they were falling off. The double sided tape was failing........ the replacement items were installed with a more permanent method by my dealer, and it looks perfect now. I've yet to have any sort of elec, or engine problem. I've only had this recent squeak in the window area... which I'm hoping my application of some silicone based tire dressing will solve. We'll see on my trip to work tomorrow if the squeak stops.
On fit finish.... the newer car has it.
On solid feel of doors.... the older car has it.
On tq and seat-o-pants meter..... the newer car wins.
On steering feel..... the older car wins out IMHO.
Hope this helps.
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UPDATE - I applied some silicone based tire dressing to the felt strips with no success. I'll try some real silicone spray tonight, but I'm having my doubts this is the culpurit.
If the spray doesn't work.... it's scheduled to see the dealship Thursday.
If the spray doesn't work.... it's scheduled to see the dealship Thursday.
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I did notice today if I put my fingers in between the door frame and car shell while driving... and squeaking it does feel like the car frame flexing relative to the door.... there is motion between the two that coincides with the noises.
I've got some legit door trim silicone treatment coming tomorrow.... then if that does not work... I'll just put a pc of smooth duct tape over the felt to rule that in or out. Not sure why the body flexes so much relative to the doors.......
I've got some legit door trim silicone treatment coming tomorrow.... then if that does not work... I'll just put a pc of smooth duct tape over the felt to rule that in or out. Not sure why the body flexes so much relative to the doors.......
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I did notice today if I put my fingers in between the door frame and car shell while driving... and squeaking it does feel like the car frame flexing relative to the door.... there is motion between the two that coincides with the noises.
I've got some legit door trim silicone treatment coming tomorrow.... then if that does not work... I'll just put a pc of smooth duct tape over the felt to rule that in or out. Not sure why the body flexes so much relative to the doors.......
I've got some legit door trim silicone treatment coming tomorrow.... then if that does not work... I'll just put a pc of smooth duct tape over the felt to rule that in or out. Not sure why the body flexes so much relative to the doors.......
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Behind the felt there is more rubber,you can run your fingers behind the felt and see the V shaped valley. I spayed silicone in that gap. It's a bit better but not altogether gone. I'll keep adding more from time to time.
I don't relish the dealer disassembling the door to try to fix it as it will probably cause other rattles.
I don't relish the dealer disassembling the door to try to fix it as it will probably cause other rattles.
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I know I'm bringing up an old topic here, but I wanted to say that the silicone spray fix does in fact work for the squeaky window issue.
A few days ago my driver's window started making noise exactly as described above, and a quick rub of silicone spray on the felt over the top of the door frame solved the problem.
A few days ago my driver's window started making noise exactly as described above, and a quick rub of silicone spray on the felt over the top of the door frame solved the problem.
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I was using the silicone in the wrong area, where the windows seal up. I now tried on the felt above the door where it seal with the car roof.
Yes it's much better, let's see how often it needs application.
Yes it's much better, let's see how often it needs application.
