Ahem! What's going on here
Super Member
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 505
Likes: 17
From: Irvine
C204 C63 507, W164 ML63, 996 C4S
Same engine with slight differences. Of course different software and transmission.
http://recapcars.com/reviews/2015-me...c63-s-reviews/
M176 will be used in all future non-AMG V8 models. M177 is for C63, M178 for GT and M179 will power E63 and now rumored GLC63.
Why would it bother you?
Trending Topics
Super Member
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 640
Likes: 70
EQS 580+ SUV, G550, Porsche Taycan Turbo S, McLaren Artura Spider
Who cares?
R&D is costly. Reusing the basic design in multiple configurations is how you defray the cost of that R&D. The simple fact is, MB is using this basic engine in lots of applications means 1) it's reliable and 2) it's got tons of rooms to grow. This all equates to: Tons of aftermarket potential.
It's win-win for most everyone, except the wah-wah-wannabe-speshul crowd.
R&D is costly. Reusing the basic design in multiple configurations is how you defray the cost of that R&D. The simple fact is, MB is using this basic engine in lots of applications means 1) it's reliable and 2) it's got tons of rooms to grow. This all equates to: Tons of aftermarket potential.
It's win-win for most everyone, except the wah-wah-wannabe-speshul crowd.
MB World Stories
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren
Verdad Gallardo
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine
Verdad Gallardo
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction
Verdad Gallardo
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping
Verdad Gallardo
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used
Verdad Gallardo
Super Member
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 505
Likes: 17
From: Irvine
C204 C63 507, W164 ML63, 996 C4S
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,537
Likes: 372
From: Austin, TX
2017 Porsche 911 C4
There are going to be many variations of this engine in different states of tune - the C63, C63 Black Series, E63, G550, AMG GT, AMG GT-R, AMG GT Black Series will all have different "tweaked" versions of the same engine with different hardware and software (most likely turbochargers, cooling, tuning, etc.).
In the grand scheme of things, this is not a bad thing! If anything, it opens up the aftermarket because there are several platforms using a variation of the same engine.
Last edited by AlexZTuned; May 1, 2016 at 02:52 PM.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,380
Likes: 73
C204 C250-CDI
Speaking for myself that's where it all begins to get foggy, I too as others have mentioned couldn't really care less about the extensive use of an engine type in a particular manufacturers range or that one or two variants are being hand assembled whilst others are machine assembled, but when they start being used in competitors vehicles as well then that's another matter.
At the end of the day as is the case on many other related topics it's all about making money and all manufacturers will do whatever it takes to generate more revenue for themselves.
Super Member
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 640
Likes: 70
EQS 580+ SUV, G550, Porsche Taycan Turbo S, McLaren Artura Spider
The nice advantage here is that if there's a more powerful application for that engine, say.. bigger turbos and more aggressive tune.. it means the other vehicle models that use that same basic engine can take advantage of it.
It also means a MUCH bigger total addressable market for the aftermarket, which makes it much more compelling to make products for. There's a good reason why BMW's aftermarket is so much more prevalent in the last decade.. BMW has been iterating on the same N54 engine all this time, and shoehorning it up and down the line. That makes a lot more cars that can take the same general tune.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 4,005
Likes: 711
From: ATLANTA
R Nine T
Well this engine cycle is all about creating a universally strong short block using .5 liter cylinder volume.
Look for turbo size and intake/exhaust as the next powertrain differentiators.....
Look for turbo size and intake/exhaust as the next powertrain differentiators.....
