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Old Sep 13, 2016 | 10:43 AM
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Price of dealer installed AMG performance exhaust

My c63 did not come with the performance exhaust and i would like some more noise out of it and obviously not wanting to do anything that would void my 7 year warranty with a aftermarket exhaust. i would like to get it installed has anyone done that before or know how much it would cost?
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Old Sep 13, 2016 | 11:17 AM
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Getting an aftermarket exhaust system will not void your warranty. For the money it would cost to buy and install the performance exhaust, I would just buy a better aftermarket system. Just my opinion.
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Old Sep 13, 2016 | 12:32 PM
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Getting an aftermarket exhaust system will not void your warranty. For the money it would cost to buy and install the performance exhaust, I would just buy a better aftermarket system. Just my opinion.
What he said.
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Old Sep 13, 2016 | 02:19 PM
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It has been deemed a non possible retrofit.

So you're only option is to get a new aftermarket exhaust or live with the one you have.
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Old Sep 13, 2016 | 03:00 PM
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I was told by MB that it was not possible. I've also been told by AWE that the standard exhaust is the same volume as the performance exhaust with the valves open, so no point in making that upgrade if it's to be believed!

It seems that for more, deeper volume, go straight through at the rear, or for more volume and more V8 metallic sound, go catless downpipes (or have the secondary cat removed).
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Old Sep 13, 2016 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Andyroo
I was told by MB that it was not possible. I've also been told by AWE that the standard exhaust is the same volume as the performance exhaust with the valves open, so no point in making that upgrade if it's to be believed!

It seems that for more, deeper volume, go straight through at the rear, or for more volume and more V8 metallic sound, go catless downpipes (or have the secondary cat removed).

Weird... A company that makes an exhaust system saying save your money on the performance exhaust option and just buy ours instead if you want louder... Seems legit lol


But either way like the idea of a button that can reduce the noise when I want, or ramp it up when I want to have some fun (yes aware some aftermarket have this option as well)

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Old Sep 13, 2016 | 07:21 PM
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Getting an aftermarket exhaust system will not void your warranty. For the money it would cost to buy and install the performance exhaust, I would just buy a better aftermarket system. Just my opinion.
Do you have any suggestions on the best one? I would like to keep the signature amg sound but i would like it louder and more crackles wouldnt be bad.
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Old Sep 13, 2016 | 07:29 PM
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Totally depends on your budget. AWE Track exhaust will run about $1400.00 or a full Brabus system with CF diffusor will run you about $11000. Akrapovic is not worth the money from what people have said. Eisenmann and Fi are both good. Honestly, you will have to find videos and see which sound you like.
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Originally Posted by Master-Spud
Weird... A company that makes an exhaust system saying save your money on the performance exhaust option and just buy ours instead if you want louder... Seems legit lol


But either way like the idea of a button that can reduce the noise when I want, or ramp it up when I want to have some fun (yes aware some aftermarket have this option as well)
Ha ha, yes, I see what you mean! I did pitch both enquiries quite separately, however, and it was only after I saw a volume chart on AWE's website that pitched the standard and perf exhausts at the same volume that I enquired to confirm that the information was correct. I too want a louder sound with the option to go quieter, but with the standard exhaust still having an h-pipe valve to cut drone, and with other users suggesting that a secondary cat removal only increases volume at high throttle loads, I think the car should be ok with no switchable option and the secondary cats removed to suit what I'm looking for. I hope!
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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 08:11 AM
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This what you are referring to? Would really like to see some decibel readings, and some independent side by sides. Not that AWE isn't a respectable brand... but always a little hesitant when Vendors start comparing their own stuff, especially with vague numbers like 1-5 loudness lol
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Hey, gentleman!

Maybe I can provide some insight.

To begin, the chart above is quite an accurate representation. We've studied the acoustics of the Dynamic Performance Exhaust as it was on our own Edition 1 - it's essentially the same as the non-DP exhaust, except it has the ability to be quieter as apposed to fixed. The chart was designed to be easily comprehensible, and the comparison is to show 1) that those who did not have valve control from the factory, or did not wish to have this control, could achieve the "rowdy factory" by going with the Track Edition system as it's the same sound achievement as the SwitchPath™ with the valves open, and 2) SwitchPath™ (valves closed and especially valves open) and Track Edition are much more pronounced and aggressive than that of the Performance Exhaust. Both systems feature a valved H-pipe.

The SwitchPath™ Exhaust is pure enjoyment. Every time I get behind the wheel of our Edition 1 I go into race mode (habitually at this point) as the it's intoxicating with the valves open while on the throttle and during shifts, both up and down (crackle central). Stealthy when going through neighborhoods.

I would think long and hard about removing (cutting out) secondary catalysts. With that, aside from anything relating to the DPs on the C63 being quite labor intensive, comes CELs, fumes, and non-emissions compliance.

We decided not to develop DPs for the 63s for these reasons. We stuck with developing a phenomenal, option-packed, bolt-on exhaust suite for those with and without in-cabin dynamic control (and those who wanted it added) which are even more cost effective than the cost of aftermarket catless DPs (not including install) to provide signature soundtracks and a nice boost in performance.

Also, Spud, we have a killer exhaust suite for your 43 when it gets here, too!

Here for questions. Email is below, as well


Originally Posted by dforman15
Totally depends on your budget. AWE Track exhaust will run about $1400.00
$1,295* before shipping (which you may have been accounting for )

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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 12:57 PM
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I have the Eisenmann System on my car and I love it. If you in New Jersey; let me know if you would like to hear it live.
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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Josh/AWE
Hey, gentleman!

Maybe I can provide some insight.

To begin, the chart above is quite an accurate representation. We've studied the acoustics of the Dynamic Performance Exhaust as it was on our own Edition 1 - it's essentially the same as the non-DP exhaust, except it has the ability to be quieter as apposed to fixed. The chart was designed to be easily comprehensible, and the comparison is to show 1) that those who did not have valve control from the factory, or did not wish to have this control, could achieve the "rowdy factory" by going with the Track Edition system as it's the same sound achievement as the SwitchPath™ with the valves open, and 2) SwitchPath™ (valves closed and especially valves open) and Track Edition are much more pronounced and aggressive than that of the Performance Exhaust. Both systems feature a valved H-pipe.

The SwitchPath™ Exhaust is pure enjoyment. Every time I get behind the wheel of our Edition 1 I go into race mode (habitually at this point) as the it's intoxicating with the valves open while on the throttle and during shifts, both up and down (crackle central). Stealthy when going through neighborhoods.

I would think long and hard about removing (cutting out) secondary catalysts. With that, aside from anything relating to the DPs on the C63 being quite labor intensive, comes CELs, fumes, and non-emissions compliance.

We decided not to develop DPs for the 63s for these reasons. We stuck with developing a phenomenal, option-packed, bolt-on exhaust suite for those with and without in-cabin dynamic control (and those who wanted it added) which are even more cost effective than the cost of aftermarket catless DPs (not including install) to provide signature soundtracks and a nice boost in performance.

Also, Spud, we have a killer exhaust suite for your 43 when it gets here, too!

Here for questions. Email is below, as well




$1,295* before shipping (which you may have been accounting for )


I was taking shipping into account. I have the track system siting in my garage. It was $1364.43 so I round up to $1400.00. Waiting for the tips and a CF rear diffuser to be delivered. They said next week. Then its finally time for install.
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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dforman15
I was taking shipping into account. I have the track system siting in my garage. It was $1364.43 so I round up to $1400.00. Waiting for the tips and a CF rear diffuser to be delivered. They said next week. Then its finally time for install.
Got it

Awesome! Can't wait for it to get installed. Then... you're off to rowdy town.
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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 03:56 PM
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Got it

Awesome! Can't wait for it to get installed. Then... you're off to rowdy town.
Are you able to provide specific, accurate decibel readings for the comparisons? Not trying to knock your product, it sounds great judging from your company's videos.
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Are you able to provide specific, accurate decibel readings for the comparisons? Not trying to knock your product, it sounds great judging from your company's videos.
I don't have dB ratings for all of the systems, unfortunately.
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Originally Posted by Josh/AWE
Hey, gentleman!

Maybe I can provide some insight.

To begin, the chart above is quite an accurate representation. We've studied the acoustics of the Dynamic Performance Exhaust as it was on our own Edition 1 - it's essentially the same as the non-DP exhaust, except it has the ability to be quieter as apposed to fixed. The chart was designed to be easily comprehensible, and the comparison is to show 1) that those who did not have valve control from the factory, or did not wish to have this control, could achieve the "rowdy factory" by going with the Track Edition system as it's the same sound achievement as the SwitchPath™ with the valves open, and 2) SwitchPath™ (valves closed and especially valves open) and Track Edition are much more pronounced and aggressive than that of the Performance Exhaust. Both systems feature a valved H-pipe.

The SwitchPath™ Exhaust is pure enjoyment. Every time I get behind the wheel of our Edition 1 I go into race mode (habitually at this point) as the it's intoxicating with the valves open while on the throttle and during shifts, both up and down (crackle central). Stealthy when going through neighborhoods.

I would think long and hard about removing (cutting out) secondary catalysts. With that, aside from anything relating to the DPs on the C63 being quite labor intensive, comes CELs, fumes, and non-emissions compliance.

We decided not to develop DPs for the 63s for these reasons. We stuck with developing a phenomenal, option-packed, bolt-on exhaust suite for those with and without in-cabin dynamic control (and those who wanted it added) which are even more cost effective than the cost of aftermarket catless DPs (not including install) to provide signature soundtracks and a nice boost in performance.

Also, Spud, we have a killer exhaust suite for your 43 when it gets here, too!

Here for questions. Email is below, as well




$1,295* before shipping (which you may have been accounting for )
Is the switch path available for the coupe?
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Old Sep 15, 2016 | 12:59 AM
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I don't have dB ratings for all of the systems, unfortunately.
Tone is more important than volume anyway.
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Old Sep 15, 2016 | 06:22 AM
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This what you are referring to? Would really like to see some decibel readings, and some independent side by sides. Not that AWE isn't a respectable brand... but always a little hesitant when Vendors start comparing their own stuff, especially with vague numbers like 1-5 loudness lol
Yeah, that's what I saw, and got me to enquire. They forwarded my enquiry to their UK stockist. It's not so much the comparison between AWE's products and stock, more the comparison between standard stock and perf stock with valves open that intrigued me. I've been comparing images of stock and perf rear boxes too, and although the shape differs slightly, they appear to be of a very similar size overall. Although this isn't concrete proof of anything, the more I look into it, the more I could well believe that the perf exhaust simply gives the option to make the car quieter, because the standard exhaust really is pretty damn loud (and getting more so with miles!).

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Is the switch path available for the coupe?
I've received a VIN from a fellow that was kind enough to provide his, and cross referenced P/Ns. There are similarities and differences amongst the coupe vs the sedan & wagon. We will be able to confirm or deny fitment once we get a coupe in here at HQ and up in the air to disassemble. Then we shall see.

Originally Posted by Mr. J
Tone is more important than volume anyway.
Bingo!

Originally Posted by Andyroo
Yeah, that's what I saw, and got me to enquire. They forwarded my enquiry to their UK stockist. It's not so much the comparison between AWE's products and stock, more the comparison between standard stock and perf stock with valves open that intrigued me. I've been comparing images of stock and perf rear boxes too, and although the shape differs slightly, they appear to be of a very similar size overall. Although this isn't concrete proof of anything, the more I look into it, the more I could well believe that the perf exhaust simply gives the option to make the car quieter, because the standard exhaust really is pretty damn loud (and getting more so with miles!).
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Originally Posted by Josh/AWE
Hey, gentleman!

Maybe I can provide some insight.

To begin, the chart above is quite an accurate representation. We've studied the acoustics of the Dynamic Performance Exhaust as it was on our own Edition 1 - it's essentially the same as the non-DP exhaust, except it has the ability to be quieter as apposed to fixed. The chart was designed to be easily comprehensible, and the comparison is to show 1) that those who did not have valve control from the factory, or did not wish to have this control, could achieve the "rowdy factory" by going with the Track Edition system as it's the same sound achievement as the SwitchPath™ with the valves open, and 2) SwitchPath™ (valves closed and especially valves open) and Track Edition are much more pronounced and aggressive than that of the Performance Exhaust. Both systems feature a valved H-pipe.

The SwitchPath™ Exhaust is pure enjoyment. Every time I get behind the wheel of our Edition 1 I go into race mode (habitually at this point) as the it's intoxicating with the valves open while on the throttle and during shifts, both up and down (crackle central). Stealthy when going through neighborhoods.

I would think long and hard about removing (cutting out) secondary catalysts. With that, aside from anything relating to the DPs on the C63 being quite labor intensive, comes CELs, fumes, and non-emissions compliance.

We decided not to develop DPs for the 63s for these reasons. We stuck with developing a phenomenal, option-packed, bolt-on exhaust suite for those with and without in-cabin dynamic control (and those who wanted it added) which are even more cost effective than the cost of aftermarket catless DPs (not including install) to provide signature soundtracks and a nice boost in performance.

Also, Spud, we have a killer exhaust suite for your 43 when it gets here, too!

Here for questions. Email is below, as well
Anything easy to install on 2016 E350 sport sedan
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