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Old 11-20-2016 | 05:16 PM
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Hey guys, I'm going to get rid of my 2013 c63 coupe soon and am unsure of what I should get for my next car. I'm interested in the CLS 63s for the luxury and performance but I know the engine is going to be outdated by the new E63S coming out. The new E63S is nice but apparently it has the same 4.0L V8 twin scroll bi turbo engine in the C63S. So if they were both tuned to the same power I would assume the lighter C63S would win. What do you guys think?
Old 11-20-2016 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Sam26
Hey guys, I'm going to get rid of my 2013 c63 coupe soon and am unsure of what I should get for my next car. I'm interested in the CLS 63s for the luxury and performance but I know the engine is going to be outdated by the new E63S coming out. The new E63S is nice but apparently it has the same 4.0L V8 twin scroll bi turbo engine in the C63S. So if they were both tuned to the same power I would assume the lighter C63S would win. What do you guys think?
They are all very different cars... are you planning to go for sedan?

I would definitely go for the E63s.
Old 11-20-2016 | 06:10 PM
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They are all very different cars... are you planning to go for sedan?

I would definitely go for the E63s.
I like coupes but sedans are nice too. I'm going for the fastest one lol
Old 11-20-2016 | 06:16 PM
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I like coupes but sedans are nice too. I'm going for the fastest one lol
E63s is the winner then... lol
Old 11-20-2016 | 06:23 PM
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E63s is the winner then... lol
But since they have the same engines, if they're both tuned to the same power wouldn't the C63s coupe win since it's lighter?
Old 11-20-2016 | 06:25 PM
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But since they have the same engines, if they're both tuned to the same power wouldn't the C63s coupe win since it's lighter?
New E63 is going to be 4Matic so its going to be faster than the C63 even with tuning.
Old 11-20-2016 | 06:34 PM
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New E63 is going to be 4Matic so its going to be faster than the C63 even with tuning.
So if they're both tuned to the same power, off the line the E63S will win due to the awd system? But the lighter C63s would win in a pull right?
Old 11-20-2016 | 06:43 PM
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So if they're both tuned to the same power, off the line the E63S will win due to the awd system? But the lighter C63s would win in a pull right?
I dont think so. E63 has twin scroll turbos, C63 doesnt. Also E63 is going to get aero and tech from the AMG GT R so it should be faster.
Old 11-20-2016 | 06:48 PM
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I dont think so. E63 has twin scroll turbos, C63 doesnt. Also E63 is going to get aero and tech from the AMG GT R so it should be faster.
I thought the C63 has twin scroll as well since it's the same engine
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They don't have the same engines and the new E63s is 4 matic +

It will be much much quicker.
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They don't have the same engines and the new E63s is 4 matic +

It will be much much quicker.
The 4.0L V8 biturbo engines in the c63 and e63 are different?
Old 11-20-2016 | 07:31 PM
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The 4.0L V8 biturbo engines in the c63 and e63 are different?
Yes, it uses different turbos, new transmission and is 4 matic+



http://www.caradvice.com.au/493184/2...-e63-revealed/
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Originally Posted by Sam26
Hey guys, I'm going to get rid of my 2013 c63 coupe soon and am unsure of what I should get for my next car. I'm interested in the CLS 63s for the luxury and performance but I know the engine is going to be outdated by the new E63S coming out. The new E63S is nice but apparently it has the same 4.0L V8 twin scroll bi turbo engine in the C63S. So if they were both tuned to the same power I would assume the lighter C63S would win. What do you guys think?
LOL your all over the place

As others have said the new E63 will have different spec 4.0ltr V8 compared to current C63, it will be more powerful stock and with tuning.

New E63 also has the advantage of AWD and will incorporate other "go fast" tech not featured on the C63, it is afterall designed to compete with the new M5 and RS6/7 which are both over and above the performance of the C63.

E63 will also be more luxurious/step up on the interior than the C63.

Simple answer to your question is the E63 wins on performance and luxury if that's what your wanting - though at a cost
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Yes, it uses different turbos, new transmission and is 4 matic+



http://www.caradvice.com.au/493184/2...-e63-revealed/
It says it has a 9 speed multi clutch transmission. Does that mean it's DCT?
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No. 9-Speed MCT like the current transmission, not a DCT. MB calls theirs a MCT for multi-clutch.

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Thanks for the CarAdvice link.

I will need to see the LCD panel display that incorporates the GPS screen. In the photos I've seen the wide array with the protruding "sunshade" design doesn't appeal to me personally.

I prefer "old school" gauges and even the "floating iPad" GPS screen. So I guess I'm in the minority. The iPad-like screen is the ideal visual height for me.
Old 11-20-2016 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Djay333
Thanks for the CarAdvice link.

I will need to see the LCD panel display that incorporates the GPS screen. In the photos I've seen the wide array with the protruding "sunshade" design doesn't appeal to me personally.

I prefer "old school" gauges and even the "floating iPad" GPS screen. So I guess I'm in the minority. The iPad-like screen is the ideal visual height for me.
You have 3 different options with the type of gagues you want. Including the old school one.

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LOL your all over the place

As others have said the new E63 will have different spec 4.0ltr V8 compared to current C63, it will be more powerful stock and with tuning.

New E63 also has the advantage of AWD and will incorporate other "go fast" tech not featured on the C63, it is afterall designed to compete with the new M5 and RS6/7 which are both over and above the performance of the C63.

E63 will also be more luxurious/step up on the interior than the C63.

Simple answer to your question is the E63 wins on performance and luxury if that's what your wanting - though at a cost
+1 spot on.

if you don't have any problems with cost, then surely it must be an e63s!
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Originally Posted by Sam26
But since they have the same engines, if they're both tuned to the same power wouldn't the C63s coupe win since it's lighter?
My understanding is the performance package of the new 4L V8 in the E63 will be 612 hp!
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New E63 also has the advantage of AWD and will incorporate other "go fast" tech not featured on the C63, it is afterall designed to compete with the new M5 and RS6/7 which are both over and above the performance of the C63.
I was at a Porsche event a week or so ago for the new Panamera. I was told that the new Panamera Turbo S (probably due late next year) will be a Hybrid with 1000nm total torque. If true, it will be rather quick indeed.
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Originally Posted by Djay333
Thanks for the CarAdvice link.

I will need to see the LCD panel display that incorporates the GPS screen. In the photos I've seen the wide array with the protruding "sunshade" design doesn't appeal to me personally.

I prefer "old school" gauges and even the "floating iPad" GPS screen. So I guess I'm in the minority. The iPad-like screen is the ideal visual height for me.
I'm right there with you. That rectangular lcd screen jammed in there got a thorough whupping from the ugly stick.
Old 11-21-2016 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DragonRR
I was at a Porsche event a week or so ago for the new Panamera. I was told that the new Panamera Turbo S (probably due late next year) will be a Hybrid with 1000nm total torque. If true, it will be rather quick indeed.
911 replacement? :P
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911 replacement? :P
Maybe..
It would have to be bloody amazing.
Old 11-22-2016 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DragonRR
Maybe..
It would have to be bloody amazing.
I'm keen to see it in the flesh... looks pretty epic.

Dragon, if they come out with the E63s coupe I might be jumping ship
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Keep in mind for a decent specced Panamera Turbo S you would be spending in the region of $450k AUD (thats what the sales guys here in Gold Coast told me)..... Thats supercar/exotic car territory in regards to pricing.....


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