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911 991 TTS, Audi RS6 C7 Performance Edition, AMG GTS
Originally Posted by Vic55
You will hear a lot of noise about spacers based on bad and good experiences. I have found that the bad ones are due to misfitment and lack of a hubcentric connection. If you get a hubcentric spacer which binds the spacer to the factor snout you will be just fine. I have been using spacers for years on factory OEM wheels with zero issues as long as they are hubcentric in nature.
Hell, Porsche has an addendum on their 991's for a spacer add (I think 7mm) that comes on the car from the factory.
So currently on 3 of my rides (just dumped the M4) I have spacers with OEM wheels: M5, C63S, and my departed M4. I have had zero issues with vibrations, balancing, anomalies, rubbing (which is more of an issue of how low you go) or steering wheel concerns. I like to think I drive my cars hard, reaching triple digit speeds a lot and push the cars into turns and big bends. I don't baby my rides. What was the owner's reasoning? Did he want to sell you a set of wheels instead (and tires)?
I'm still considering spacers for my C63 so interesting comments from a long time user of them. What do you think about the potential for stone chip damage down the sides? Is this something you've come across?
I'm still considering spacers for my C63 so interesting comments from a long time user of them. What do you think about the potential for stone chip damage down the sides? Is this something you've come across?
Good question- where I live (California Orange County) the roads are good with little amounts of rain so the elements don't generate much road rash. I have been fortunate to not have any issues on all my lowered cars (33 of them) with all of them having custom wheels (aggressive offsets) or spacers. I would liken the spacers on the OEM wheels to same as getting a set of HRE's that always have a more aggressive offset. My wheels are still tucked under the rear fenders so the tires are not outside.
This was my E63 and my 16 M5; my cars are set up like this so it would be hard to get rock chips:
This was one of my more aggressive set ups (on my RS7) and I didn't have any rock issues:
You will hear a lot of noise about spacers based on bad and good experiences. I have found that the bad ones are due to misfitment and lack of a hubcentric connection. If you get a hubcentric spacer which binds the spacer to the factor snout you will be just fine. I have been using spacers for years on factory OEM wheels with zero issues as long as they are hubcentric in nature.
Hell, Porsche has an addendum on their 991's for a spacer add (I think 7mm) that comes on the car from the factory.
So currently on 3 of my rides (just dumped the M4) I have spacers with OEM wheels: M5, C63S, and my departed M4. I have had zero issues with vibrations, balancing, anomalies, rubbing (which is more of an issue of how low you go) or steering wheel concerns. I like to think I drive my cars hard, reaching triple digit speeds a lot and push the cars into turns and big bends. I don't baby my rides. What was the owner's reasoning? Did he want to sell you a set of wheels instead (and tires)?
Owner of the shop did not try to sell tires and wheels. He just seemed overall conservative with mods. For example, he recommended against catless downpipes for convertibles, mainly for the smell.
Vic, I'll get the Kw HAS to lower the car. 18 mm spacers for front and back from Supreme Power would be a good choice?
Thank you
Owner of the shop did not try to sell tires and wheels. He just seemed overall conservative with mods. For example, he recommended against catless downpipes for convertibles, mainly for the smell.
Vic, I'll get the Kw HAS to lower the car. 18 mm spacers for front and back from Supreme Power would be a good choice?
Thank you
Ha I love the smell of catless (on my Turbo S)... but yes, KW HAS and 18mm front and rear- you will be set.
I'm going to post pics of my coupe once its washed tomorrow. Its been raining for 5 days straight here.
Would you still recommend a 18" mm in the rear with a 295 tire?
It depends on if you are lowered or not. On my coupe which has the 285 tire on a 10.5 inch rim- the tire is stretched a little from the factory so I was able to push the 18mm piece. But a 295 would square up and possibly could rub ... possibly but buy eyeballing it tells me it would be ok. And this is all based on my coupe.
Edit, I went and took this pic on my lowered car. Its gonna be tight with a 295 and an 18mm spacer but I would see no issues on a non lowered coupe and some have done 20mm I think:
It depends on if you are lowered or not. On my coupe which has the 285 tire on a 10.5 inch rim- the tire is stretched a little from the factory so I was able to push the 18mm piece. But a 295 would square up and possibly could rub ... possibly but buy eyeballing it tells me it would be ok. And this is all based on my coupe.
Edit, I went and took this pic on my lowered car. Its gonna be tight with a 295 and an 18mm spacer but I would see no issues on a non lowered coupe and some have done 20mm I think:
Thanks Vic. If anything; I would go with KW V3's on my coupe; so I may have more give then a HAS on this car for room. No?
Thanks Vic. If anything; I would go with KW V3's on my coupe; so I may have more give then a HAS on this car for room. No?
Yes, with the V3 you will have more to drop in the rear as I'm at the max rear drop yet still have over 1 inch left in the front on the HAS- go figure.
2008 BMW M3, 2017 C63s Coupe, 2015 S550, 2018 E63s
Definitely appreciate all the feedback guys. I think that I'm going to go with 18mm front and 15mm rear on my non-lowered coupe. After talking to Vic this may be the best option. What do y'all think?
Definitely appreciate all the feedback guys. I think that I'm going to go with 18mm front and 15mm rear on my non-lowered coupe. After talking to Vic this may be the best option. What do y'all think?
I think so too, I dont like aggressive spacers on cars that are NOT lowered. It accentuates the wheel gap IMHO. So while you could go 20 square that would be pushing those wheels out alot.
2019 Audi SQ5, 2011 Toyota Tacoma TRD 4wd, 2016 Ford Focus se Hatchback
Originally Posted by WhiteKnight16
Definitely appreciate all the feedback guys. I think that I'm going to go with 18mm front and 15mm rear on my non-lowered coupe. After talking to Vic this may be the best option. What do y'all think?
I'd like to see pictures of before and after when you are done.
Definitely appreciate all the feedback guys. I think that I'm going to go with 18mm front and 15mm rear on my non-lowered coupe. After talking to Vic this may be the best option. What do y'all think?
I have NON LOWERED C63S cab w standard 19 inch front and 20 inch rear wheels.
I have 18 mm spacers on front, which is perfect and flush w the fender.
I also have 18 mm spacers in the rear and it is pokey-wheel protrudes out past the fender.
Assuming coupe and cab setup is same, 18mm for the rear on non lowered car is too thick imo.
I think 15 mm or smaller would look better.
2019 Audi SQ5, 2011 Toyota Tacoma TRD 4wd, 2016 Ford Focus se Hatchback
Originally Posted by C63SEd1
I have NON LOWERED C63S cab w standard 19 inch front and 20 inch rear wheels.
I have 18 mm spacers on front, which is perfect and flush w the fender.
I also have 18 mm spacers in the rear and it is pokey-wheel protrudes out past the fender.
Assuming coupe and cab setup is same, 18mm for the rear on non lowered car is too thick imo.
I think 15 mm or smaller would look better.
2008 BMW M3, 2017 C63s Coupe, 2015 S550, 2018 E63s
Definitely would like to see pics of spacers with a non-lowered C63s. I decided to go with 18 mm front (Supreme Power) and did 15 mm in the back (H&R). They were out of stock of the 15 mm Supreme brand.