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I just wanted to have an idea of the tread wear of your tires, and how long were you able to run on a set of tires. Luckily, that day I parked my car with the steering fully turned to the left. when I came back, I was shocked to see the wear of the front left tire, the canvas was showing! I quickly turned to check the front right tire, and it wasn't as bad, but it was evident that the tire started to wear out.
Bear in mind that my current mileage is approx. 41,000 Km and I've got the Michelin PSS. Is that considered to be a normal lifetime for these tires?
I just wanted to have an idea of the tread wear of your tires, and how long were you able to run on a set of tires. Luckily, that day I parked my car with the steering fully turned to the left. when I came back, I was shocked to see the wear of the front left tire, the canvas was showing! I quickly turned to check the front right tire, and it wasn't as bad, but it was evident that the tire started to wear out.
Bear in mind that my current mileage is approx. 41,000 Km and I've got the Michelin PSS. Is that considered to be a normal lifetime for these tires?
My fronts were done at about 15000km.
Worn on on the inside and on the outside, pictures shown in my other post.
I have the same problem... yeah maybe that's the case. Anyway, would it be safe to bring front the 265s (rear) and get new rears?
The stockers for a sedan are:
Fronts: 19x8.5 (235R35)
Rears: 19x9.5 (255R30)
You could safely and comfortably put 255 on the front and 275 in the rear. I know people have been putting on wider tires for the fronts/rears but that is really not recommended even if the tire doesn't rub.
The stockers for a sedan are:
Fronts: 19x8.0 (235R35)
Rears: 19x9.0 (255R30)
You could safely and comfortably put 255 on the front and 275 in the rear. I know people have been putting on wider tires for the fronts/rears but that is really not recommended even if the tire doesn't rub.
Your recommendation is correct but the stock tires and rims are wrong.
Just did 4 tires all around - 4000 miles - purchased the car in November of last year. The front tires were literally shredding and the rear tires were bald - terrible alignment from the factory as well
Just did 4 tires all around - 4000 miles - purchased the car in November of last year. The front tires were literally shredding and the rear tires were bald - terrible alignment from the factory as well
Wow that is brutal. I've got 4k miles on mine, also purchased in November, and the tires have very little wear. Track days? Always aggressive driving?
Well, wheel alignments are part of the pre-delivery process when getting the car ready for the customer.
Which means the Mercedes Service Centre should have wheel aligned your car before you picked it up.
If the car is being handed over to the customer and within 15000km are wearing unevenly due to factory toe and camber settings nothing will change when having service centre check the alignment.
I complained to my service centre that my cars steering felt funny when going around round abouts and it felt as if the front wheel was digging in.
They asured me that the alignment was done and disregarding my claim.
Its up to you what you do but from my and experience an independent alignment at the start may prolong the life of your tyres.
Below are my fronts at 15000km of daily driving.
This wear is caused by incorrect toe. Left tyre here is back to front, however, you can see left side is worn more the the right, the outside edge is bald and the inside is worn to canvas.
Have the dealer give you factory spec first and go from there. If tire wear is uneven from that point then they owe you 700$ worth of tires.
Make sense??
Unfortunately, they don't. My factory alignment was terrible and tires wore out around 3500 miles. Reaching out to MBUSA was fruitless, even though my alignment shop pointed out flaws in the alignment that were "extreme," in his opinion.
I got about 13K out of my stock rear set of Dunlop tires. The fronts had maybe 25-30% of life left in them.
I switched to Michelin PSS tires at 13K, and am now at 23K miles. Have maybe 20-25% of life left in the rears, and when the rears are worn I have a feeling the edges of the fronts will be worn as well.
All in all, without the alignment issues described by others above, expect between 12K and 20K miles out of a set of tires depending on your driving habits.
Given you are talking tyres I hope you don't mind me asking a question.
The Michelins on my rears are in need of replacement after 10,000 miles. I am reasonably happy with this as they haven't had the easiest of life. However I have been reading various forums about tyre size options.
There seems to be differences in opinion and it doesn't help that different countries seem to have different tyre options as standard.
I have the 19" multi spoke black wheels which I believe are 19x9.5
They came with Mitchelin 265/35's
I want to go as wide as possible and I have seen some people state they have fitted 285/30's with no problem, others state 275/35's. Which one is right?
Further (this probably shows how little I know about the mechanics of a car) with bigger tyres does this affect the alignment settings or will the garage still be working off the MB standard alignment?
Any advice greatly appreciated.
Regards
Matt
Last edited by Matty779blue; May 11, 2017 at 08:30 AM.
Given you are talking tyres I hope you don't mind me asking a question.
The Michelins on my rears are in need of replacement after 10,000 miles. I am reasonably happy with this as they haven't had the easiest of life. However I have been reading various forums about tyre size options.
There seems to be differences in opinion and it doesn't help that different countries seem to have different tyre options as standard.
I have the 19" multi spoke black wheels which I believe are 19x9.5
They came with Mitchelin 265/35's
I want to go as wide as possible and I have seen some people state they have fitted 285/30's with no problem, others state 275/35's. Which one is right?
Further (this probably shows how little I know about the mechanics of a car) with bigger tyres does this affect the alignment settings or will the garage still be working off the MB standard alignment?
Any advice greatly appreciated.
Regards
Matt
To get extremely technical, going to a wider tire on an existing wheel size with the same alignment specs will change how optimized those alignment specs are, but it'd be so minimal with that small of an increase in tire width that I doubt you'd even notice a difference.
And you can fit 285's on the stock rear wheels, but you run into issues being able to mount comparably sized front tires on the stock front wheels. Without going into a long-winded explanation that has been posted on here numerous times, if I were you I wouldn't go any wider than 255/35 and 275/35 on the stock wheels.
To get extremely technical, going to a wider tire on an existing wheel size with the same alignment specs will change how optimized those alignment specs are, but it'd be so minimal with that small of an increase in tire width that I doubt you'd even notice a difference.
And you can fit 285's on the stock rear wheels, but you run into issues being able to mount comparably sized front tires on the stock front wheels. Without going into a long-winded explanation that has been posted on here numerous times, if I were you I wouldn't go any wider than 255/35 and 275/35 on the stock wheels.
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