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Old 03-13-2019, 01:50 PM
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Thanks mate,

Hope the compressor housings are finished soon, excited to see them put together...

I’ll have to measure the inlets on the compressor housing when I get them back but the couplers are slightly stepped to fit to factory boxes.

Probably going for a matte carbon finish on the ZAC intakes and ceramic heat coat the turbo shroud to murder out the engine bay.

Still tossing up between fitting the WMI injectors into the compressor housing or the pre intercooler pipes, any thoughts???
They will look nice and clean once you install them on the motor, especially with the heat shroud blacked out too.

Ahhh so they are using a stepped coupler for the turbo connection. Yea take a measurement if you don’t mind just for comparison.

Injecting the methanol is going to give you more efficient compressor map as if you have a larger turbo (without the lag) but it won’t help iats. You don’t want to inject pre intercooler either as the fluid will get trapped in the intercooler and the air will actually heat up passing through the I/c since it’s not as cool as the w/m air. Best place is post intercooler so the compressed air has been cooled as much as your heat exchangers can cool, then the meth/water chill it way more before the air enters the motor. That will give maximum cooling as well as an octane boost and most efficient iats possible in any weather condition.
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Dsawyer just went 10.18 with this turbo setup. Can't wait to see how your build evolves.
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They will look nice and clean once you install them on the motor, especially with the heat shroud blacked out too.

Ahhh so they are using a stepped coupler for the turbo connection. Yea take a measurement if you don’t mind just for comparison.

Injecting the methanol is going to give you more efficient compressor map as if you have a larger turbo (without the lag) but it won’t help iats. You don’t want to inject pre intercooler either as the fluid will get trapped in the intercooler and the air will actually heat up passing through the I/c since it’s not as cool as the w/m air. Best place is post intercooler so the compressed air has been cooled as much as your heat exchangers can cool, then the meth/water chill it way more before the air enters the motor. That will give maximum cooling as well as an octane boost and most efficient iats possible in any weather condition.
Reference the info on meth injection location, I’ve also read all this on Devils own website.



I think with the M177 the issue here is space, if we were to inject post I/C the coupler is very short and goes into a 90 degree bend straight away.

If we were to inject at the beginning of the inlet manifold it would require removal I suspect to avoid plastic shavings from falling into the intake.

I initially wanted to mount injectors post I/C however both Yabeela with compressor injection and Weistec with pre I/C injection are showing great results.

Im not looking to invent the wheel or be the fastest just looking to have a tough 10 second street car so compressor for now I think it is.
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Reference the info on meth injection location, I’ve also read all this on Devils own website.



I think with the M177 the issue here is space, if we were to inject post I/C the coupler is very short and goes into a 90 degree bend straight away.

If we were to inject at the beginning of the inlet manifold it would require removal I suspect to avoid plastic shavings from falling into the intake.

I initially wanted to mount injectors post I/C however both Yabeela with compressor injection and Weistec with pre I/C injection are showing great results.

Im not looking to invent the wheel or be the fastest just looking to have a tough 10 second street car so compressor for now I think it is.
spraying in the turbo compressor outlet has several benefits. This is why this is working so well in the YP4 cars. Didn’t dsawyer63 just break the 9’s in his c63 coupe? Insane.
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spraying in the turbo compressor outlet has several benefits. This is why this is working so well in the YP4 cars. Didn’t dsawyer63 just break the 9’s in his c63 coupe? Insane.
Yep...

9.97 @ 140.

Awesome job.

Mine are going on Tuesday, so excited.
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Originally Posted by gOt BoOsT
They will look nice and clean once you install them on the motor, especially with the heat shroud blacked out too.

Ahhh so they are using a stepped coupler for the turbo connection. Yea take a measurement if you don’t mind just for comparison.

Injecting the methanol is going to give you more efficient compressor map as if you have a larger turbo (without the lag) but it won’t help iats. You don’t want to inject pre intercooler either as the fluid will get trapped in the intercooler and the air will actually heat up passing through the I/c since it’s not as cool as the w/m air. Best place is post intercooler so the compressed air has been cooled as much as your heat exchangers can cool, then the meth/water chill it way more before the air enters the motor. That will give maximum cooling as well as an octane boost and most efficient iats possible in any weather condition.
Hey mate, how are yours going?
We have (finally) committed to production moulds and making a few minor changes to make the intakes better (smoother internal and better finish).
I was working on heat shields over the weekend too
After that will be CAI, although we have NOT had the need (cue the HAI jokes) As the airflow through the engine bay is pretty descent. One thing we did notice when testing was removing the big seal around the rear of the engine bay to the bonnet lets a LOT of hot air escape. Makes your wiper arms pretty hot though
DM or reply if you have any questions.
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Need to know what ID changes (if any) we are going to make this week. Trying to find that info so we can finish these moulds.
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Those look great...….can't wait for the #'s!!!
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Sneek Peek...

Should I start a dedicated thread for this build?

RDO247 + Yabeela YB4 Turbos + MR Tuning = ???HP



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I have a set of ZAC Composite intakes being made as we speak.

Where do you get these ZAC intakes?
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Where do you get these ZAC intakes?
message them on ig @ZACCOMPOSITES

they said they expect to start production by the end of the month
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Man, those are by far the prettiest turbos out there for this engine. I know these are custom cast by Yabeela, but are the center sections from Precision Turbo? Dual ball bearing?
https://www.precisionturbo.net/turbo...--5831-MFS/492

Is this the center section? 58mm inducer compressor wheel, 76 trim turbine wheel? It looks like 2 of those will cost you about $1.8k-$2k.

Yabeela's custom casting costs $5k?
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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
https://www.precisionturbo.net/turbo...--5831-MFS/492

Is this the center section? 58mm inducer compressor wheel, 76 trim turbine wheel? It looks like 2 of those will cost you about $1.8k-$2k.

Yabeela's custom casting costs $5k?
Your attention to detail is impeccable. 12 thumbs up.

Now can you find the right turbo and put the correct link? Yabeela is dual ball bearing. You linked a journal bearing. Add like double price.

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Any updates/reviews from those that have turbo upgrades?

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Originally Posted by Judson145
Your attention to detail is impeccable. 12 thumbs up.

Now can you find the right turbo and put the correct link? Yabeela is dual ball bearing. You linked a journal bearing. Add like double price.
I will be the first to admit I am looking for knowledge / help understanding here.

2 dual ball bearing turbos from Precision look to be able $3.6k. How does Yabeela make the turbine + compressor housing, or is that straight from Precision too?
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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
I will be the first to admit I am looking for knowledge / help understanding here.

2 dual ball bearing turbos from Precision look to be able $3.6k. How does Yabeela make the turbine + compressor housing, or is that straight from Precision too?
If you’re looking for knowledge/help than ask questions. The guy that started this long thread got the turbos you are questioning. Don’t just throw links up thinking you have the answer. You just doubled your “turbos from precision” price lol.

To answer you, they probably package it all to fit the new AMG engine while using a reputable turbocharger manufacturer for the parts that really require durability. How they do it is another one if the questions that who really cares. Just once again ask the guy who started this thread and 4-5 others who chimed in that also have them on how they performed, what kind of service Yabeela provided, how the parts went on (any issues so on), how long they took to deliver, quality, etc. That’s what matters to us hardworking guys and gals looking to go fast.
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Originally Posted by AMGMD
Any updates/reviews from those that have turbo upgrades?

Yabeela YP4 Turbos, Mike’s Customer DP, Vibrant GESI 7830 300 Cel Cats, AWE Track Edition Exhaust & AEM WMI (Boost Juice)
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Do you pretty much HAVE to use meth with upgraded turbos?
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Do you pretty much HAVE to use meth with upgraded turbos?
No, however, meth injection does have a few advantages one being an increase in power.
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Yabeela YP4 Turbos, Mike’s Customer DP, Vibrant GESI 7830 300 Cel Cats, AWE Track Edition Exhaust & AEM WMI (Boost Juice)
that seems low for meth + turbos...

how hard was it to fit yp4 onto e63s?
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Originally Posted by RDO247

Yabeela YP4 Turbos, Mike’s Customer DP, Vibrant GESI 7830 300 Cel Cats, AWE Track Edition Exhaust & AEM WMI (Boost Juice)
Hey,

Was wondering if you were running into any issues or problems?
Are you limiting your power to not hurt the transmission or are you running 750whp on stock trans? Do you daily the car? Meth installed?
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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
that seems low for meth + turbos...

how hard was it to fit yp4 onto e63s?
This is on a C63s...not E
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I'm also looking at these options, from a Stage 2 custom tune, I want more power sure, but reliability should be 1st. do you sell a kit for this car?
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I'm also looking at these options, from a Stage 2 custom tune, I want more power sure, but reliability should be 1st. do you sell a kit for this car?
Contact @Premier Tuning Group.
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Upon turbo replacement does the car automatically prime the turbos?

If not, can someone post the steps involved for priming the turbos?

(sure I'll pull a fuse and turn the key)

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