522 HP For 2019?
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522 HP For 2019?
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According to Auto Motor und Sport, the facelifted C63 (I'm assuming it's the S) could get 522HP in Euro trim
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Mercedes C-Class facelift (2018) With a comprehensive facelift in the spring of 2018, the C-Class considered. The C63 AMG could grow to 522 hp, but does not get four-wheel drive. This (there) is a C63 R Coupe in the pipeline.
According to Auto Motor und Sport, the facelifted C63 (I'm assuming it's the S) could get 522HP in Euro trim
Mercedes C-Klasse Facelift (2018)
Mit einer umfassenden Modellpflege wird im Frühjahr 2018 die C-Klasse bedacht. Der C63 AMGdürfte auf 522 PS zulegen, einen Allradantrieb bekommt er aber nicht. Dafür steckt ein C63 R Coupé in der Pipeline.Translated:
Mercedes C-Class facelift (2018) With a comprehensive facelift in the spring of 2018, the C-Class considered. The C63 AMG could grow to 522 hp, but does not get four-wheel drive. This (there) is a C63 R Coupe in the pipeline.
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HP on these updates means nothing when a tune will put a 2015 c63 to ~600 HP anyways. They also under rate the HP every year. These c63s dyno close to 530hp. Different story if they put the e63 twin scroll turbos on future updates. Even the 9 speed or the dct might not be the best option for owners that wants to push the motor to the limit .
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Regardless, it's always nice when there's a power boost direct from the factory, especially for those who don't want/like aftermarket type tunes.
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The performance will also increase by default due to the new 9sp MCT having shorter ratios compared to the current 7sd. also the new 9sp MCT has a higher torque handling capacity compared with 7sd MCT. The C63 will not get a dual clutch for this update.
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We hear what your saying but in actuality it'll be higher just like previous models, if the first release 205's were averaging 20 or 30 hp above the factory number then the newer one will be a similar amount over the factory quote, ie 540-550 hp that as some have said would be enough for them to leave it alone without having to bother with tuning, of course all of this is speculation if the turbos are exactly the same but and your point above stands if the turbos do end up being larger whether twin scroll or not then those wanting to tune are going to get a healthy increase compared to the current C63 M177 set up.
The performance will also increase by default due to the new 9sp MCT having shorter ratios compared to the current 7sd. also the new 9sp MCT has a higher torque handling capacity compared with 7sd MCT. The C63 will not get a dual clutch for this update.
The performance will also increase by default due to the new 9sp MCT having shorter ratios compared to the current 7sd. also the new 9sp MCT has a higher torque handling capacity compared with 7sd MCT. The C63 will not get a dual clutch for this update.
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According to Auto Motor und Sport, the facelifted C63 (I'm assuming it's the S) could get 522HP in Euro trim
Translated:
Mercedes C-Class facelift (2018) With a comprehensive facelift in the spring of 2018, the C-Class considered. The C63 AMG could grow to 522 hp, but does not get four-wheel drive. This (there) is a C63 R Coupe in the pipeline.
According to Auto Motor und Sport, the facelifted C63 (I'm assuming it's the S) could get 522HP in Euro trim
Mercedes C-Klasse Facelift (2018)
Mit einer umfassenden Modellpflege wird im Frühjahr 2018 die C-Klasse bedacht. Der C63 AMGdürfte auf 522 PS zulegen, einen Allradantrieb bekommt er aber nicht. Dafür steckt ein C63 R Coupé in der Pipeline.Translated:
Mercedes C-Class facelift (2018) With a comprehensive facelift in the spring of 2018, the C-Class considered. The C63 AMG could grow to 522 hp, but does not get four-wheel drive. This (there) is a C63 R Coupe in the pipeline.
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Seems like a pretty big change for a mid cycle refresh. But if this does happen then at least it opens up a good opportunity for us to upgrade. OEM manifolds that fit the twin scroll turbos would be great.
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Suspension changes/tweaks are definitely part of the upgrade, at least that's what I've been told by my AMG dealer.
I'm thinking it wouldn't be much of a big surprise if they do introduce upgraded turbos, they have done so for the lesser AMG variants, also next gen will use some form of 48V electric spooled turbos so why not end this model run with an upgrade of already existing OEM hardware...the articles I've read re. twin scroll turbo upgrade have got more to do with bettering response rather than increasing power.
We'll all know soon enough
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Biggest noticeable difference will come with the 9spd. power increase or not but we all know that there will definitely be a power increase regardless of how much.
Suspension changes/tweaks are definitely part of the upgrade, at least that's what I've been told by my AMG dealer.
I'm thinking it wouldn't be much of a big surprise if they do introduce upgraded turbos, they have done so for the lesser AMG variants, also next gen will use some form of 48V electric spooled turbos so why not end this model run with an upgrade of already existing OEM hardware...the articles I've read re. twin scroll turbo upgrade have got more to do with bettering response rather than increasing power.
We'll all know soon enough
Suspension changes/tweaks are definitely part of the upgrade, at least that's what I've been told by my AMG dealer.
I'm thinking it wouldn't be much of a big surprise if they do introduce upgraded turbos, they have done so for the lesser AMG variants, also next gen will use some form of 48V electric spooled turbos so why not end this model run with an upgrade of already existing OEM hardware...the articles I've read re. twin scroll turbo upgrade have got more to do with bettering response rather than increasing power.
We'll all know soon enough
With how broad the power/torque curves are on the M177, I doubt there will be much of a real-world performance difference if they eventually switch to a 9-speed. Typically, you'll see the biggest performance increases with engines that have a tight/narrow power band since the additional gears allow the engine to stay up in the higher RPM range. With an engine with as much mid-range as we have, I doubt it'll do all that much. Not saying there won't be a difference, but I doubt it'll be anything major.
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If anything, keeping it in Comfort will allow the 9 speed to short shift more, giving you better gas mileage if you're not constantly on the gas.
As for the #s.. mid-cycle refresh, traditionally manufacturers want to have something for reviewers to talk about, so why not give a piddly bump in power.. even if it's just entirely on paper.
I'm most interested in any fundamental suspension changes, and if those happen, if they can be retrofitted. Having a bigger variance from Comfort, Sport, Sport+ suspension would be a big deal for me.
As for the #s.. mid-cycle refresh, traditionally manufacturers want to have something for reviewers to talk about, so why not give a piddly bump in power.. even if it's just entirely on paper.
I'm most interested in any fundamental suspension changes, and if those happen, if they can be retrofitted. Having a bigger variance from Comfort, Sport, Sport+ suspension would be a big deal for me.
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So it is confirmed that the C63 is getting the 9 speed, then? I had heard that somewhere but didn't know it was official. These cars hardly need more power but I won't say no to it either. Bigger news for me is the 9 speed and the possible suspension revisions, if any.
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So it is confirmed that the C63 is getting the 9 speed, then? I had heard that somewhere but didn't know it was official. These cars hardly need more power but I won't say no to it either. Bigger news for me is the 9 speed and the possible suspension revisions, if any.
When I traded my 16 S550 coupe for a '17, the difference from the 7G to 9G was night/day...
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The 9G's was much smoother shifting both up and down and faster too, and no gear hunting...huge improvement over the 7G.
