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Old Dec 13, 2018 | 01:33 PM
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Eurocharged Handheld OBD Tuning Available!!

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Old Dec 13, 2018 | 01:54 PM
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We've waited a loooong time for this. Between this hand-held flashing and JB4, I have a new found excitement with this platform! Can't wait to see what people do stacking the two together.

Now I kinda want to throw on these upgraded turbos I have sitting in a box in the garage!
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Old Dec 13, 2018 | 02:08 PM
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Yeah, super excited... I can't believe we're finally at this point, seems like it took forever. I just got 2 speeding tickets within 2 weeks of each other, though, so pretty sure my wife would kill me if I splurged on this now HAHA.
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Old Dec 13, 2018 | 02:10 PM
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Old Dec 14, 2018 | 02:48 AM
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Hello,

do you need the cpu for the first tune or is it from first time via obd possible? Is this tune also working on a 2019 C63S?

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Old Dec 14, 2018 | 07:44 AM
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do you need the cpu for the first tune or is it from first time via obd possible? Is this tune also working on a 2019 C63S?

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Removal of ECU no longer necessary at all.

Should work on 2019's, don't see why not.
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Old Dec 14, 2018 | 01:04 PM
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Can anyone tell me if there would be any benefit getting the Jb4 over this?

Thank you
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Old Dec 14, 2018 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by silverstar11909
Can anyone tell me if there would be any benefit getting the Jb4 over this?

Thank you
JB4 has a bunch of cool features like map switching, boost by gear, and data logging... It depends on what you are looking for in a tune. If you want a set and forget it, if recommend the Eurocharged (I personally prefer ECU dining over piggyback). If you want to tailor the tune yourself and experiment, go with JB4.

OBD tuning also easier to set your car back to stock before dealership visits, if you need that... Although I never condone warranty fraud. You break it, you buy it, IMHO.
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Originally Posted by skim7x
JB4 has a bunch of cool features like map switching, boost by gear, and data logging... It depends on what you are looking for in a tune. If you want a set and forget it, if recommend the Eurocharged (I personally prefer ECU dining over piggyback). If you want to tailor the tune yourself and experiment, go with JB4.

OBD tuning also easier to set your car back to stock before dealership visits, if you need that... Although I never condone warranty fraud. You break it, you buy it, IMHO.

has as anyone confirmed there is not a flash counter via OBD? So you are saying you flash back to stock there is no trace of a tune?

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Old Dec 14, 2018 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by silverstar11909
has as anyone confirmed there is not a flash counter via OBD? So you are saying you flash back to stock there is no trace of a tune?
If they suspect foul play they'll find evidence in any tune... Piggyback or flash. But for regular visits / service, they won't even bother to check... They generally don't care unless you blow an engine or something expensive... But EC has engine warranty that JB4 doesn't have.
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Old Dec 14, 2018 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by skim7x
If they suspect foul play they'll find evidence in any tune... Piggyback or flash. But for regular visits / service, they won't even bother to check... They generally don't care unless you blow an engine or something expensive... But EC has engine warranty that JB4 doesn't have.
thanks for all the info... I guess I called euro and it’s 1550 with the my genius plus shipping...

wondering how much the jb4 is going to be. If it’s half the price may be worth it
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Old Dec 14, 2018 | 03:51 PM
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JB4 is targeted to be around $899
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Old Dec 14, 2018 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by skim7x
JB4 is targeted to be around $899
what do you think is the better option?
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Old Dec 14, 2018 | 10:31 PM
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It just depends on what you want to do with your vehicle -- it's a personal choice and I don't think anybody would blame you for choosing either. There is a lot of info on this forum about both, so spend some time researching both. Feel free to DM if you have any specific questions.
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So is the MyGenius considered a piggyback? Or is it just remote ECU tuning?

Is there anything you can do by pulling the ECU and hard & soft tuning it that you can't do with the MyGenius (aside from run a large labor bill lol)?

Also, can you not tune boost-by-gear via the ECU (whether in hand or remotely via MyGenius)? Not sure how this would be a parameter the ECU can't control?

And does this unit show any realtime data? Ie, can you road/dyno tune with it? Or is it only for loading a tune file onto the ECU (reflash)?
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Old Dec 15, 2018 | 03:22 PM
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So is the MyGenius considered a piggyback? Or is it just remote ECU tuning?

Is there anything you can do by pulling the ECU and hard & soft tuning it that you can't do with the MyGenius (aside from run a large labor bill lol)?

Also, can you not tune boost-by-gear via the ECU (whether in hand or remotely via MyGenius)? Not sure how this would be a parameter the ECU can't control?

And does this unit show any realtime data? Ie, can you road/dyno tune with it? Or is it only for loading a tune file onto the ECU (reflash)?
MyGenius is same as bench flash but with the ability to use the OBD port to program and not having to take out the ECU. OBD tuning does everything that pulling the ECU out does without the labor.

I don't think you can boost by gear with ECU tuning...

I've never used MyGenius, but you may be able to log with it, make changes to a map on a computer, and reflash the car with an updated map... Maybe EC can chime in on that... Definitely possible with other handheld OBD flashing devices.
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Originally Posted by skim7x
MyGenius is same as bench flash but with the ability to use the OBD port to program and not having to take out the ECU. OBD tuning does everything that pulling the ECU out does without the labor.

I don't think you can boost by gear with ECU tuning...

I've never used MyGenius, but you may be able to log with it, make changes to a map on a computer, and reflash the car with an updated map... Maybe EC can chime in on that... Definitely possible with other handheld OBD flashing devices.
I figured as much, but thanks for clarifying.

It seems a bit silly to have to buy both the MyGenius and JB4 just to be able to tune remotely and control boost by gear, respectively (which if you're running bigger turbos is a real consideration).
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I figured as much, but thanks for clarifying.

It seems a bit silly to have to buy both the MyGenius and JB4 just to be able to tune remotely and control boost by gear, respectively (which if you're running bigger turbos is a real consideration).
i think more of the issue is that these cars can’t put the horsepower down with the boost set to the gears now.

so maybe the JB4 is the better bet,
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So we still need to go to a eurocharged dealer or will this handheld eliminate this? Explain the process - hand held is shipped we download tune and flash? Cost?
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i think more of the issue is that these cars can’t put the horsepower down with the boost set to the gears now.

so maybe the JB4 is the better bet,
But you can't change timing, and it's more of manipulating parameters rather than actually tuning...

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So we still need to go to a eurocharged dealer or will this handheld eliminate this? Explain the process - hand held is shipped we download tune and flash? Cost?
https://www.eurocharged.com/products...eld-programmer
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thanks for all the info... I guess I called euro and it’s 1550 with the my genius plus shipping...

wondering how much the jb4 is going to be. If it’s half the price may be worth it
Who did you talk to to get that price? I got quoted 2500 usd including shipping
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You're both wrong... Its actually on sale right now for $1399+SH... Merry Christmas 😂
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You're both wrong... Its actually on sale right now for $1399+SH... Merry Christmas 😂
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So why is it listed at $599 here: https://www.eurocharged.com/products...eld-programmer
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Because:

THE UNIT WILL NOT COME PRE-PROGRAMMED WITH A TUNE- THAT NEEDS TO BE PURCHASED SEPERATELY

TaDaaaa... Knowledge is half the battle 😂
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