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Old Jul 19, 2019 | 10:51 AM
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Extreme Tire Wear due to toe-in

I had a 2009 (previous gen W204) C63 sedan that was a great car but had serious issues with tire wear due to excess toe-in at factory specs, regardless of driving style. Fronts would wear out in less than 10K miles even with mostly highway driving and no hooning. Don't even ask about the rears (OEM tires lasted 4K miles). I drive about 25K miles per year so this could get costly, and it was a constant battle to get alignment right to avoid these issues. So...my question is...does the W205 also have this problem or did they make it more user friendly as a daily driver? I totally understand that if driven hard the rears will wear quickly, and rears will always last about half as long as the fronts. My question really pertains to whether the tires now last a reasonable amount of time when used for freeway/high-mileage driving. Any folks out there who use their C63 as a daily driver and can comment on this? I've ordered a 2020 Coupe and I am willing to put up with this issue if needed, just want to know what to expect and hoping they made it better this time around. If there are other threads that address this I couldn't find them. Thanks for any input guys.
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Old Jul 19, 2019 | 11:13 AM
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I have a 2017 S Sedan, and haven't had too much of an issue. I'm at about 18k, and am just now having to change the tires. I haven't tracked it or anything, and most of the miles are highway.
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Old Jul 19, 2019 | 11:20 AM
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I have a 2017 S Sedan, and haven't had too much of an issue. I'm at about 18k, and am just now having to change the tires. I haven't tracked it or anything, and most of the miles are highway.
Thanks. I can certainly live with 18-20K between tire changes. That's about what I'm getting on my M4 now. The next four months of waiting (or more depending on port release dates, etc.) are going to be hell. Can't wait to have a V8 again, even if it isn't NA.
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Old Jul 19, 2019 | 03:07 PM
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I also had a W204, and know what you're talking about (incidentally, if I recall the story correctly, the tech manual gave a fairly wide range for acceptable toe numbers. I recall bringing my car to a specialist, who dialed it in so it JUST hit the low end of the range, and tire wear improved dramatically).

But to answer your question: this car doesn't eat tires nearly as quickly as the W204. I replaced my F/R at 25k, and only because there was a good promotion from Michelin and I wanted to try the Pilot 4S. I probably could have gotten another 5k out of mine (I have dedicated snows, so winter driving is not an issue).
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Old Jul 19, 2019 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by nobbyv
I also had a W204, and know what you're talking about (incidentally, if I recall the story correctly, the tech manual gave a fairly wide range for acceptable toe numbers. I recall bringing my car to a specialist, who dialed it in so it JUST hit the low end of the range, and tire wear improved dramatically).

But to answer your question: this car doesn't eat tires nearly as quickly as the W204. I replaced my F/R at 25k, and only because there was a good promotion from Michelin and I wanted to try the Pilot 4S. I probably could have gotten another 5k out of mine (I have dedicated snows, so winter driving is not an issue).
That's good news. Just out of curiosity....what do you think of the PS4s. I switched from the original Michelin PSS to PS4s on my M4 and found the PS4s to be pretty awesome. If those aren't the best tires being produced today then I'd love to know what's better.
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Originally Posted by PD46AG
That's good news. Just out of curiosity....what do you think of the PS4s. I switched from the original Michelin PSS to PS4s on my M4 and found the PS4s to be pretty awesome. If those aren't the best tires being produced today then I'd love to know what's better.
Same here. My car came stock with the PSS, and the PS4s blow them out of the water, in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by PD46AG
I had a 2009 (previous gen W204) C63 sedan that was a great car but had serious issues with tire wear due to excess toe-in at factory specs, regardless of driving style. Fronts would wear out in less than 10K miles even with mostly highway driving and no hooning. Don't even ask about the rears (OEM tires lasted 4K miles). I drive about 25K miles per year so this could get costly, and it was a constant battle to get alignment right to avoid these issues. So...my question is...does the W205 also have this problem or did they make it more user friendly as a daily driver? I totally understand that if driven hard the rears will wear quickly, and rears will always last about half as long as the fronts. My question really pertains to whether the tires now last a reasonable amount of time when used for freeway/high-mileage driving. Any folks out there who use their C63 as a daily driver and can comment on this? I've ordered a 2020 Coupe and I am willing to put up with this issue if needed, just want to know what to expect and hoping they made it better this time around. If there are other threads that address this I couldn't find them. Thanks for any input guys.

25k on mine and still got 7/32 and 6/32 on front and rears respectively.
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