When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.
you write above after my post/pictures "It hope you will never hit a pothole or dip at high speed, those fenders will be goes." and my I ad with bad english to. Have done over 30,000km with the wheels/tyres with NO issues. So you are Wrong. Please don't post bull**** and misinformation to fellow forum members. Why would you do this ?
End of Story !
Have done over 30,000km with the wheels/tyres with NO issues. So you are Wrong.
Please don't post bull**** and misinformation to fellow forum members. Why would you do this ?
Really?
Car: C63s Sedan
Lowered on H&R Springs
Previously ran 285s on stock rims.
Rear Vossen: 19x11 ET49
Front Vossen: 19x9.5 ET33
All I said that I hope you don’t hit pothole or dip at high speed or your fender get damage. What so bull**** about that? Your replied is more BULL**** telling the guy that is will fit on his lowered car !!! Btw, that’s a beautiful wagon and you made it look cheap like 4x4 with tires stretched and wheels sticking out. Why don’t you lower her for a proper AMG look. Oops.., you can’t because it will rubs.
put the car on stands and jack the wheel up to see fitment better.
also, you can shave/machine the rear of the hub to change the offset if needed. I would definitely look into what the other guy did to run an 11 and mimic that.
So these are 285s i mounted on the rim to test fit. as you can see it fits pretty well. im ordering a fender rolling tool off amazon and will roll fenders still to clean it up more. but im going to experiment with a 295 and see how it fits. i know 285 will work tho now. lots of comments on here saying to just sell the wheels and dont even try. not sure how come so much negativity? was worth it to me to just get a tire on and test fit properly. glad i did!
Also @alexasa i thought about machining rear of hub too. was going to explore it but now i know itll fit as is. thanks!
lots of comments on here saying to just sell the wheels and dont even try. not sure how come so much negativity?
You asked for opinion, right? Anyway, pictures are just for show. Let us know once you drive it going through curve, dip ... with the wheel turn and see if it rub.
You asked for opinion, right? Anyway, pictures are just for show. Let us know once you drive it going through curve, dip ... with the wheel turn and see if it rub.
true that. appreciate the opinion just didnt think so many would say like dont even try... i enjoy a challenge and will test it properly before i keep them on car. least this way people with sedans will know the max offset width they can run right? ill update with how wheels turn, rub on inside if any, dips etc all that sort of stuff. car wont be on road yet for a couple months since im in canada tho.
The rear quarter panels are toast as well as shredded tires.
lol thanks for that time will tell right? lots more work to be done still but im very happy with the fitment without any modding done yet.
i need to find somewhere i can rent a bay from so i can lift car. take wheels off then roll fenders. easier to do lifted rather than kneeling on the ground! lots to be done but theres nothing like a fresh challenge!
So these are 285s i mounted on the rim to test fit. as you can see it fits pretty well. im ordering a fender rolling tool off amazon and will roll fenders still to clean it up more. but im going to experiment with a 295 and see how it fits. i know 285 will work tho now. lots of comments on here saying to just sell the wheels and dont even try. not sure how come so much negativity? was worth it to me to just get a tire on and test fit properly. glad i did!
Also @alexasa i thought about machining rear of hub too. was going to explore it but now i know itll fit as is. thanks!
I guess fit is all relative and in addition to what may rub under various road and driving conditions it includes taste how you like your car to look like. I guess on the latter you will find people don't share your taste...but hey, your car and if it makes you happy all good. Maybe put more camber on and make it more like VIP style...(to proactively respond to the the inevitable comments: yes, it will wear down tires more quickly and unevenly). I would put at least camber on as a severely rubbing tire at high speed under bumpy conditions is not fun aka not save.
On a different subject - looks you got tons of swirl marks from car wash?
I guess fit is all relative and in addition to what may rub under various road and driving conditions it includes taste how you like your car to look like. I guess on the latter you will find people don't share your taste...but hey, your car and if it makes you happy all good. Maybe put more camber on and make it more like VIP style...(to proactively respond to the the inevitable comments: yes, it will wear down tires more quickly and unevenly). I would put at least camber on as a severely rubbing tire at high speed under bumpy conditions is not fun aka not save.
On a different subject - looks you got tons of swirl marks from car wash?
absolutely i still want the car to be safe. so i dont want to make it full VIP stance thats not what i go for. the suspension is stiff on this i loaded rear of car and bounced on trunk and nothing came close to tire. but understandably hitting a bump at speed will be far different. im used to having really lowered cars. my old 350z was 3.5inches from ground. so this one is high for what im used to.
also yes everyone has their own opinion preference on stance and wheel setup. i enjoy mine being as aggressive as possible from what i view as that. wide stance. poke from fenders. especially since these cars look too narrow as it is i feel it needs fattening up. the spoiler helped.
and for the paint...when i had car washed by dealer it came back with swirls everywhere. a project to get rid of it for spring this year. cut and polish i guess. gotta find a good shop here.
true that. appreciate the opinion just didnt think so many would say like dont even try... i enjoy a challenge and will test it properly before i keep them on car. least this way people with sedans will know the max offset width they can run right? ill update with how wheels turn, rub on inside if any, dips etc all that sort of stuff. car wont be on road yet for a couple months since im in canada tho.
Maybe no one doesn’t want to offend. I’m not anyone. It looks bad. Jacked-out wheels like yours went out of fashion in the 80’s.
But you keep messing around with rolling fenders, alignment issues and general damages to your car, wheels and tires.... Take pics and keep us entertained.
absolutely i still want the car to be safe. so i dont want to make it full VIP stance thats not what i go for. the suspension is stiff on this i loaded rear of car and bounced on trunk and nothing came close to tire. but understandably hitting a bump at speed will be far different. im used to having really lowered cars. my old 350z was 3.5inches from ground. so this one is high for what im used to.
also yes everyone has their own opinion preference on stance and wheel setup. i enjoy mine being as aggressive as possible from what i view as that. wide stance. poke from fenders. especially since these cars look too narrow as it is i feel it needs fattening up. the spoiler helped.
and for the paint...when i had car washed by dealer it came back with swirls everywhere. a project to get rid of it for spring this year. cut and polish i guess. gotta find a good shop here.
Interesting coincidence, just sold my modified 370Z NISMO (#63), which was lowered too and a bit harsh for my daily driving taste ..also had quite some rear camber on the 305 tires. Anyway, based on what you look for you may want to think about a wide body kit then....
I know it does not belong here but some rear camber does not always look bad...agree?
Maybe no one doesn’t want to offend. I’m not anyone. It looks bad. Jacked-out wheels like yours went out of fashion in the 80’s.
But you keep messing around with rolling fenders, alignment issues and general damages to your car, wheels and tires.... Take pics and keep us entertained.
really appreciate your opinion. now my thread is complete with your words of wisdom
Interesting coincidence, just sold my modified 370Z NISMO (#63), which was lowered too and a bit harsh for my daily driving taste ..also had quite some rear camber on the 305 tires. Anyway, based on what you look for you may want to think about a wide body kit then....
I know it does not belong here but some rear camber does not always look bad...agree?
nice car! some extra camber can look fine to me. im also yet to find a nice widebody for this car?
this was my old one ... obviously aggressive wide body done lol
That is a lot of poke. You don’t need to roll your fenders, this is a case where you need to run more negative camber. The fender roll will give you more clearance, but won’t fix the poke. Does that make sense?
Coupe offset on sedan body.
OP you could have the wheel hubs shaved down to a higher offset and avoid all the rolling and camber problems... or just buy proper fitting wheels.
true that. appreciate the opinion just didnt think so many would say like dont even try... i enjoy a challenge and will test it properly before i keep them on car. least this way people with sedans will know the max offset width they can run right? ill update with how wheels turn, rub on inside if any, dips etc all that sort of stuff. car wont be on road yet for a couple months since im in canada tho.
I dont think the pics show they "fit" ... they are technically mounted and the car can move, but looks bad and will probably have rubbing problems.
This may be a new challenge for you, but the "will these rims fit?" convo has been had a billion times on this and other forums for decades, not a new concept that requires trial and error.
Good luck and hope you end up happy here.
im all for big tires and that fat look but needs to be flush or slightly tucked. just because the top of the tire stretches under the shadow of the fender doesnt mean it fits. id say you are 10mm to far out. need to bring it in. then the question is will you rub in the rear then?
Worse case.... adjust your cambers like this and your wheel should fit fine.
haha!
Originally Posted by C63S1
That is a lot of poke. You don’t need to roll your fenders, this is a case where you need to run more negative camber. The fender roll will give you more clearance, but won’t fix the poke. Does that make sense?
it wont fix the aggressive poke. im just looking to make it clear fender more. slight pull on fender and rolled well to clear. i dont mind the wheels poking out of fender
Originally Posted by raudiace4
Coupe offset on sedan body.
OP you could have the wheel hubs shaved down to a higher offset and avoid all the rolling and camber problems... or just buy proper fitting wheels.
shaving down the hub is probably easiest scenario. long as i can find a shop to do it accurately. id dig into that route before adjusting camber tbh. the wheels are 8k new so i'd rather figure out a way to make these work long as its safe and to my liking. if i cant yeah ill sell and find different wheels.
Originally Posted by LessIsMore
I dont think the pics show they "fit" ... they are technically mounted and the car can move, but looks bad and will probably have rubbing problems.
This may be a new challenge for you, but the "will these rims fit?" convo has been had a billion times on this and other forums for decades, not a new concept that requires trial and error.
Good luck and hope you end up happy here.
it's a challenge. lots of trial and error and im in that process. i dont think it looks bad. i think it has lots of potential. so just going through the process to figure it out. its the fun part
Originally Posted by Star4life
im all for big tires and that fat look but needs to be flush or slightly tucked. just because the top of the tire stretches under the shadow of the fender doesnt mean it fits. id say you are 10mm to far out. need to bring it in. then the question is will you rub in the rear then?
10mm is probably accurate from where it is youre right. getting the fender out a bit more could cover majority of that. im more a fan of extending the fenders than camber. id like the rear to be wider but couldnt find a simple widebody for rear of this car. didnt want to go bubble fenders like my old 350z it wont suit this design. so thats where im at right now!
really appreciate all the feedback you guys have provided. negative is sometimes a little... "forum-ish" lol but all good. lots of good comments and ideas too. looking forwarding to showing you all where this ends up and will keep it updated with each step.
I guess do you like those Vossens really that much to go through all that? Again, it's all taste but they seem overpriced for a flow forged wheel...
I just bought some flow forged HRE F04 for $1.5k brand new for my F32 and quoting some custom 2 piece BC forged right now for another ...but even those are half what you quote those Vossens cost?
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren
Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.
time will tell right? lots more work to be done still but im very happy with the fitment without any modding done yet.
