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Old 04-06-2020 | 07:30 AM
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We're the pure 900 worthit over the 800s?
Yes definitely , the 800”s drive like the stock turbos but honestly it’s better to sacrifice a little bit of response to give you the better overall power and go with the 900”s , I wish I had .
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Old 05-01-2020 | 10:55 PM
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I only did the install on the YP4”s last week and Yabeela left out two fittings , with it been lock down now I’m stuck until after the 16th to get replacements and get everything running. I had pure 800”s and Pure 900”s before the YP4”s , I’m going for power which is why I switched to the YP4”s
Did you have to Upgrade your pistons? And share a link of your build please I would love to see it.
Old 05-27-2020 | 10:05 PM
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Its actually a really good number we done a touch up tune a few months after this and made 450rwkw but i cant find that graph

Our aussie dynos read alot lower compared to US dynos for instance a stock car makes 310rwkw to 320rwkw with tune and downpipes they down 380-390rwkw so given that fact this car is making big power with bolt on turbos
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Old 05-28-2020 | 04:03 PM
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Upgraded turbos you will see the benefit vs stock turbos mainly in 1/4 mile trap speed and most of all 60-130 times. A stage 2 cars with stock turbos can do 60-130 probably in 8-9 seconds. And upgraded turbo car I've seen them do anywhere from 4.xx-5 seconds. That's a huge performance jump. Upgraded turbos are worth it if big power is your goal. Also the guy who said DP install costs 2800-4000$ LOL. That is horribly false info. DP install cost me $400 at a very reputable performance shop near me that works on GT3s, Ferraris and other high end MB and BMW cars.. IF budget is your concern Tune and DPs are the most bang for buck power mod on FI cars, like our W205 C63s.
Old 05-28-2020 | 05:57 PM
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raudiace4 - what shop do you use? I'm in Milwaukee so it would be an easy drive.
Old 05-28-2020 | 06:30 PM
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Upgraded turbos you will see the benefit vs stock turbos mainly in 1/4 mile trap speed and most of all 60-130 times. A stage 2 cars with stock turbos can do 60-130 probably in 8-9 seconds. And upgraded turbo car I've seen them do anywhere from 4.xx-5 seconds. That's a huge performance jump. Upgraded turbos are worth it if big power is your goal. Also the guy who said DP install costs 2800-4000$ LOL. That is horribly false info. DP install cost me $400 at a very reputable performance shop near me that works on GT3s, Ferraris and other high end MB and BMW cars.. IF budget is your concern Tune and DPs are the most bang for buck power mod on FI cars, like our W205 C63s.
Just to clarify, if you re- read my post, the cost was DP+ install...not just install. Lol
Old 05-28-2020 | 09:33 PM
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raudiace4 - what shop do you use? I'm in Milwaukee so it would be an easy drive.
Performance Eurowerks in Buffalo Groove IL.

Originally Posted by GLCya63
Just to clarify, if you re- read my post, the cost was DP+ install...not just install. Lol
I stand corrected, but that's still extremely steep. Most catless DPs go for about $12-1500. With install should still be under $2K.
Old 05-28-2020 | 10:24 PM
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Old 05-29-2020 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by GLCya63
I've done a bunch of research on this for this platform. From what i gathered, the stage 2 with downpipes is a good setup if you're not planning on going the track and just daily drive with the occasional spirited, much louder run. A stage 3 setup with a turbo upgrade will really wake-up the top end past 5000 RPM. There are claims that just swapping out the turbos to say a Pure 800 or similar, with get you 60+ hp on the top end with no additional tune changes. Take that with a grain of salt, but there are dyno charts out there if you look hard enough. The pickle is the cost of a proper DP installation. The cost of DPs + install seems to run between $2800-$4000 depending on your labor options; DIY, reputable shop, cutting the stock DPs, dropping the tranny, etc. Installing turbos seems the easiest process most decent DIYers could tackle on their own.

I have a stage 1 Renntech GLC63 and love the low to mid range power, but the top end really dies out past 5500 rpm. I am definitely upgrading turbos eventually and keeping stock cats. I may not get the full potential, but really don't want to spend a couple grand for DP install and eventually spend the same couple grand to remove when i decide to sell the car.

To simplify, $3500 ish or more for more low-end daily drive ability or, $4500-ish for more top end power, but easily reversible if you want to sell you car alter or need to get a smog check.

Keep in mind i fully intend on taking my car to the track once they're opened up again, hence the bias towards the turbos. I also know i'm eventually moving on to a new car in about 3 years. I also don't care to make the car any louder than it already is so another reason for me to not got he DP stage 2 route.

All my opinion and personal reference of course. Cheers
I don't know where you live, but a proper downpipe install in Los Angeles is around 800-1200. I went the cheaper route and chopped them off since I already had a secondary cat delete. My catless downpipes only cost me 500 for install.

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