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Old May 2, 2020 | 08:53 PM
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It's probably from the intercooler on that side getting heat soaked and radiating hear when you park. You may have an issue with that turbo or the tune is pushing way too much boost and the turbos are just blowing hot air.
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Old May 4, 2020 | 11:23 AM
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Thats wild. Curious how this happened, and just on one side. OP , the other diverter doesnt show any signs of stress?

That turbo is toast now. With that much damage to the impeller fins, there is no way it is still balanced, and will eventually self destruct - maybe a day, maybe a year.

Also I think you can rest assured that plastic bits are still stuck in the compressor housing and subsequent intake tract, including IC inlet. could have plugged some of the intercooler. Also would look inside the filter box.


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Old May 5, 2020 | 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 8cd03gro
You may have an issue with that turbo or the tune is pushing way too much boost and the turbos are just blowing hot air.

I'm curious if these companies run more boost on a stage 2 versus stage 1. I seem to read on there poeple with the odd heat issue when people are running stage 2 tunes but not stage 1 (just going by threads I come across). I would have thought the only difference would be the cel for no cats would have been coded out, but it's got me curious.
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Old May 5, 2020 | 01:16 PM
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I'm curious if these companies run more boost on a stage 2 versus stage 1. I seem to read on there poeple with the odd heat issue when people are running stage 2 tunes but not stage 1 (just going by threads I come across). I would have thought the only difference would be the cel for no cats would have been coded out, but it's got me curious.
My tuner (One of the popular ones that a lot of people on here also have) said that Stage 1 is 16 psi and Stage 2 is 17-18 psi.
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Old May 5, 2020 | 02:10 PM
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After seeing this I got paranoid so I went and bought me a metal diverter/bov from Turbosmart...If nothing else, a peace of mind!
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Old May 6, 2020 | 02:13 AM
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My tuner (One of the popular ones that a lot of people on here also have) said that Stage 1 is 16 psi
That's factory boost, isn't it?


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Old May 6, 2020 | 01:22 PM
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That's factory boost, isn't it?
I'm not sure actually, but my car is definitely faster after the stage 1
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Old May 7, 2020 | 08:03 PM
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Hey ZipZap,

Where did you end up tapping your T hose for the dual port?
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Old May 8, 2020 | 01:02 AM
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Hey ZipZap,

Where did you end up tapping your T hose for the dual port?

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-c63s-...tallation.html

explanation and a pic in the above hyper link , as Alex mentions in the post there are taps on each of the manifolds that could be used with an adaptor but the only people I know who make them is Weistec for their WMI kit and they don’t sell it separately. If you find someone that does sell them separately let me know !
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Old May 8, 2020 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by zipzap
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-c63s-...tallation.html

explanation and a pic in the above hyper link , as Alex mentions in the post there are taps on each of the manifolds that could be used with an adaptor but the only people I know who make them is Weistec for their WMI kit and they don’t sell it separately. If you find someone that does sell them separately let me know !
Man! Nothing is easy with our cars eh? So since I also couldn't find the MAP adapter, I thought of just purchasing extra vacuum plugs and see if I can jerry rig that. Perhaps drill a hole, stick the vacuum line in and seal it somehow.
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Old May 8, 2020 | 01:16 PM
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Man! Nothing is easy with our cars eh? So since I also couldn't find the MAP adapter, I thought of just purchasing extra vacuum plugs and see if I can jerry rig that. Perhaps drill a hole, stick the vacuum line in and seal it somehow.
It would be nice if the aftermarket had an easy solution. If only Weistec sold their adapter separately from their water meth kit (on the right):








It seems like a simple enough CNC’d piece. You probably could DIY something like tap the OEM plastic plug (#80) that twists out.

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Old May 10, 2020 | 02:14 AM
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Thats wild. Curious how this happened, and just on one side. OP , the other diverter doesnt show any signs of stress?

That turbo is toast now. With that much damage to the impeller fins, there is no way it is still balanced, and will eventually self destruct - maybe a day, maybe a year.

Also I think you can rest assured that plastic bits are still stuck in the compressor housing and subsequent intake tract, including IC inlet. could have plugged some of the intercooler. Also would look inside the filter box.
yea I heard back today, dealer won’t cover it, needs Intercoolers and a turbo , now it’s decision making time
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Old May 10, 2020 | 07:33 AM
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yea I heard back today, dealer won’t cover it, needs Intercoolers and a turbo , now it’s decision making time
Time for Pure Turbos, might as well upgrade.

No one (to my knowledge) has aftermarket water/air intercoolers - only upgraded heat exchangers. You’ll have to buy OEM - look on eBay for a good used units, you can find each for a few hundred on there depending on their condition.
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Old May 10, 2020 | 03:33 PM
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Time for Pure Turbos, might as well upgrade.

No one (to my knowledge) has aftermarket water/air intercoolers - only upgraded heat exchangers. You’ll have to buy OEM - look on eBay for a good used units, you can find each for a few hundred on there depending on their condition.
will the e63 intercoolers fit in the c63?wwould they provide much of a difference in cooling power if I go with purer turbos who's to say the same thing won't happen again really considering everything I don't know if this specific car will be able to take the extra being thrown at it

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Old May 12, 2020 | 11:29 PM
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intercooler ordered eta Friday oem from Mercedes was only 450 with expedited shipping so I figured worth the extra 100 bucks from used ,certified shop doing the install Monday. going with pure turbo 800s next week and a whole bunch of other upgrades. csf heat exchanger, intake -either wiestec or eventuri haven't decided maybe even something else , maybe water meth looking into a good kit , definitely wanna get upgraded diverter valves at the least.
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Old May 13, 2020 | 12:54 AM
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Sounds good man, it will be a beast!

Glad you are coming out of this well it seems. Would be interesting to hear if you find out what the cause of the melted oem diverter valve ended up being.
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Old May 13, 2020 | 11:37 PM
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intercooler ordered eta Friday oem from Mercedes was only 450 with expedited shipping so I figured worth the extra 100 bucks from used ,certified shop doing the install Monday. going with pure turbo 800s next week and a whole bunch of other upgrades. csf heat exchanger, intake -either wiestec or eventuri haven't decided maybe even something else , maybe water meth looking into a good kit , definitely wanna get upgraded diverter valves at the least.
I'm curious as to what made you choose the Pure 800 turbos over the Pure 900 option? I may order turbos at some point in the future and think I've decided that if I am going to undertake that task, might as well get the turbos that have the higher upside. It would be nice if there was an option to switch to a twin scroll manifold and ball bearing turbos (as opposed to journal bearings).
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Old May 15, 2020 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam Adi
intercooler ordered eta Friday oem from Mercedes was only 450 with expedited shipping so I figured worth the extra 100 bucks from used ,certified shop doing the install Monday. going with pure turbo 800s next week and a whole bunch of other upgrades. csf heat exchanger, intake -either wiestec or eventuri haven't decided maybe even something else , maybe water meth looking into a good kit , definitely wanna get upgraded diverter valves at the least.
My two cents , if you’ve got the extra money go with the pure 900”s . I’ve had Pure 800/900 and now YP4”s . The Pure900”s are the best balance between power and drivability and are complete plug and play , you can run 15psi or 32psi , just depends on your goals but that’s the best part about them , you have room to move if you want more power , you don’t really have this option with the 800”s.
I’ve sent you a DM about the intake options
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My two cents , if you’ve got the extra money go with the pure 900”s . I’ve had Pure 800/900 and now YP4”s . The Pure900”s are the best balance between power and drivability and are complete plug and play , you can run 15psi or 32psi , just depends on your goals but that’s the best part about them , you have room to move if you want more power , you don’t really have this option with the 800”s.
I’ve sent you a DM about the intake options
well I took your advice lol , both on intakes ands turbos . im pretty confident I can hit somergood numbers with setup im aiming for . only time will tell I guess =D


also good to note on this post -2k to fix the car , one dealer wanted well over 15k- always double check and always get other opinions.

edit:frorgot to add that currently im still running the same turbo

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well I took your advice lol , both on intakes ands turbos . im pretty confident I can hit somergood numbers with setup im aiming for . only time will tell I guess =D


also good to note on this post -2k to fix the car , one dealer wanted well over 15k- always double check and always get other opinions.

edit:frorgot to add that currently im still running the same turbo
Was the second opinion at another dealership or an independent shop?

Did you ever figure out what did it? Maybe just 10 hours of hard canyon driving in 95 degree weather? Do you remember if your cooled the car/took it easy for a bit before parking for the night?

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Glad it ended up being somewhat reasonable to fix cost wise for you OP. Good luck with the build, looking forward to seeing it completed.
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Was the second opinion at another dealership or an independent shop?



Did you ever figure out what did it? Maybe just 10 hours of hard canyon driving in 95 degree weather? Do you remember if your cooled the car/took it easy for a bit before parking for the night?
I got it fixed by a dealer actually , not under warranty or anything like that but a dealer in SoCals did fix it without question actually , I had. buddy with a repair shop order me the part (driver side intercooler assembly)-450, and the install by a dealer was about 1k , that fixed the limp issue and the car was able to run well , still misfired tho , well it came back. so I swapped all the spark plugs at the same dealer a couple days later. that was a that last thing to get it running perfectly . now it feels like nothing ever happened . still swapping turbos because im sure this one is shot .
---honestly I never could Gert a definite answer out of anybody, the best conclusion I coulkd come to was Ive driven the car pretty hard for three years , a burble tune and 27k miles fried my plugs , add the 90 degree plus weather that day and hill climbing and excessive burbling , also the car said it was low 1 quart of oil . I didn't let it cool when I parked it because the damage was already done .I opened the hood before I shut the car off and saw the hole , that's when I turned it off . that's the best I could come up with multiple little things that usually wouldn't matter added together . also the car did run veery hot that day 220 who knows maybe the intercooler/diverter already had an issue . one dealer said the MAF sensor wasn't plugged in which was complete bs the other dealer confirmed that it was bs .


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Glad it ended up being somewhat reasonable to fix cost wise for you OP. Good luck with the build, looking forward to seeing it completed.
yea lucky save, thank you! will update with picutres when I finish it up
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Does anyone have installation instructions for the turbo smart kit?
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anyone have a part number for those plastic pieces that connect to the hoses?

OP can you chime in?
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I guess I’d like to get to the bottom of it more than anything regardless of a warranty claim or not. Unless I plan on trading the car in, it seems as if ima have to fix this one way or another

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