😌 Facelift Vs Prefacelift C63s: My honest test drive & why I'm keeping the old one
#26
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Why is it valid that your priority is electronics and not valid that others is sound? Seems to me that both are reasonable and comes down to personal preference. Also, yes, you can make it louder, but replicating the wild PFL sounds is no small task.
#27
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designo is MB's individual customization program. You can get any interior you want on the C Class. On the E Class and higher you can even get any exterior color you want. It's just an extra cost. MB occasionally offers some pre-selected designo interiors as convenient options in the order guide, but pretty much anything is possible otherwise.
https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/benz/...00237,15700242
https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/benz/...00237,15700242
Look at the new X5M, the entire door, dash, center console and seats are covered in leather. Not fake leather, real animal leather.
#28
You need to swap out the downpipes and tune the CEL to get the most out of the sound of the car. An akraprovic or whatever else exhaust will still be silent because of the stock OEM downpipes. So yes you will have to void your warranty to fix that.
#29
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All you need to do is add DP’s with high flow cats and no tune. That’s exactly what I plan on doing. I’ve done this exact mod before on another car with great results.
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SimMB (05-02-2020)
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OP, Good of you to keep the preFL. Only the owners who have had both and have an appreciation for the way this car noise pollutes the environment know what you are talking about.
I like the FL in every single way with one exception. I don't enjoy driving it, knowing what it could have been in the sound department. This trend will gradually change how performance petrol cars will sound and not in a good way!
I like the FL in every single way with one exception. I don't enjoy driving it, knowing what it could have been in the sound department. This trend will gradually change how performance petrol cars will sound and not in a good way!
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Jimmy_c63s (05-02-2020)
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I've never looked into the cost for MB, but volume isn't really the issue I think. It's a pretty popular program with Audis. An individual exterior color is like $3000 or so. I don't recall what the individual interiors go for, but folks have done it successfully on cars cheaper than a C63. It does add extra time to the order. Audi lumps the individual orders together towards the end of a production run, so it takes some patience. I definitely noticed that it doesn't seem to be a popular thing with MB. Other brands seem to be making a killing of off the individualization programs.
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#35
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Of course, you don't need to agree and everyone will defend their own purchases as if they built it themselves, but this is a forum, so you need to accept everyone has their own opinion.
I was all set for buying a PFL at one point, but I would have to look out at those analogue clocks and the tacky display and fight back the wave of regret as I stumble for the buttons on the centre console.
Each to their own though eh 👍
ETA. If the PFL and FL were the same price, do you think people would go for the PFL? I highly doubt it, therefore the biggest determining factor is price. IMO.
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AV1 (05-03-2020)
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i got my 2020 amg gt r yesterday and I have heard that you will get a cel if you remove opf without tune.
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So I just went over 6000 miles on my FL coupe and something definitely changed. You really had to try to get the car to pop and bang before. Now, it pops and bangs a lot more. It even pops on downshifts now. I was trying to record it yesterday and completely failed on getting the suction cup installed correctly on my GoPro.
Something absolutely changed because I had recorded few videos before trying to make it pop and backfire. All you have to do is put the car in sport plus and manual shifting.
Something absolutely changed because I had recorded few videos before trying to make it pop and backfire. All you have to do is put the car in sport plus and manual shifting.