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TMC Transmission tuning for the C63, is this for real?
I came across this from a friend who is going to run it on a different vehicle with a 722.9 transmission. Does anyone here have any experience with it? Any data on improved times? This is really affordable compared to the others out there.
I mean if it’s able to flash the TCU then it could be legit. I haven’t heard of this and TCU tuning for 7-speed MCT’s just recently became widely available is America... so maybe this is a discounted version of it?
Let us know how it works for your friend. What platform is he experimenting this with?
There are only 2 guys in the world that have access and can fully flash a Mercedes TCU. And it only can be done via laptop currently. I wouldn't trust a module with my trans computer.
There are 2 guys in the USA doing full TCU flashes. @5soko has been doing them on e63s side for a few months now and C63s that he posted videos of.
There are only 2 guys in the world that have access and can fully flash a Mercedes TCU. And it only can be done via laptop currently. I wouldn't trust a module with my trans computer.
There are 2 guys in the USA doing full TCU flashes. @5soko has been doing them on e63s side for a few months now and C63s that he posted videos of.
There are many more than just 2. I’ve done my due diligence, and there are a handful of tuners that have TCU tunes available now. Eurocharged, Solo Motorsports, Dyne Performance, Kirklandhans (independent), in addition to getting it direct from 5soko or any of the shops that have licensed the white label TCU tune he worked so hard to get from Germany. Even RennTech and GAD have had TCU tunes for years that North America never saw light of (until 5soko).
Every shop has quoted me different prices (the delta from low to high is huge). I’ve seen as little as $1200 all the way up to $1800 for just the TCU - it’s obviously not transferable either (locked to your TCU module) so no resale value once you do it. I’m a firm believer that you should own software you purchase and have the ability (or legal right) to transfer/sell that license to the next owner...
Last edited by AlexZTuned; Jul 8, 2020 at 09:16 AM.
There are many more than just 2. I’ve done my due diligence, and there are a handful of tuners that have TCU tunes available now. Eurocharged, Solo Motorsports, Dyne Performance, Kirklandhans (independent), in addition to getting it direct from 5soko or any of the shops that have licensed the white label TCU tune he worked so hard to get from Germany. Even RennTech and GAD have had TCU tunes for years that North America never saw light of (until 5soko).
Every shop has quoted me different prices (the delta from low to high is huge). I’ve seen as little as $1200 all the way up to $1800 for just the TCU - it’s obviously not transferable either (locked to your TCU module) so no resale value once you do it. I’m a firm believer that you should own software you purchase and have the ability (or legal right) to transfer/sell that license to the next owner...
I know 5soko and ONLY David from Eurocharged austin texas have the white label real actual german full flash tune. It isnt a Eurocharged product or sold by any other EC dealer in the usa from what i know, only from him and his location.
Dyne performance I still havent seen results from them or talked to an customer or Seen information that provide real tcu tuning proof.
Kirklandhans is another mystery man who claims he does it but doesn't sell it and only 1-2 guys have it yet no proof of it existing besides him getting angry When asked and his annoyance being proof that It must be real lol
lastly solo motorsports also seems to have something going on, i have seen actual videos and customers with them, but their information about it is all over the place and they claim they do it in house, as we know the 2 men who do have access to this, are not in the usa. They might be resellers but their info and claims are horrible and off.
Thats what i meant when i said 2 lol 5soko and David seem to be the only guys who have actual information and facts on the tune, process and customers who have proof of logs/dragys.
I know 5soko and ONLY David from Eurocharged austin texas have the white label real actual german full flash tune. It isnt a Eurocharged product or sold by any other EC dealer in the usa from what i know, only from him and his location.
Dyne performance I still havent seen results from them or talked to an customer or Seen information that provide real tcu tuning proof.
Kirklandhans is another mystery man who claims he does it but doesn't sell it and only 1-2 guys have it yet no proof of it existing besides him getting angry When asked and his annoyance being proof that It must be real lol
lastly solo motorsports also seems to have something going on, i have seen actual videos and customers with them, but their information about it is all over the place and they claim they do it in house, as we know the 2 men who do have access to this, are not in the usa. They might be resellers but their info and claims are horrible and off.
Thats what i meant when i said 2 lol 5soko and David seem to be the only guys who have actual information and facts on the tune, process and customers who have proof of logs/dragys.
I do agree that with with TCU tuning being so new (to North America), the best/safest options are 5soko and Eurocharged. I do believe that Solo has the same white label tune, and they’ve done some pretty cool stuff with the FL 9 speeds as well (like adjustable launch control).
It will become more commonly available as more shops and tuners license it or create versions of their own to suit their own applications. Hopefully that increases (pricing) competition and drives prices to something reasonable for a transmission tune ($500-800 IMO if it’s locked and non-transferable). Or just include it with an ECU tune...
Last edited by AlexZTuned; Jul 8, 2020 at 11:43 AM.
Here is a fellow members car C63S, sounds amazing and is one clean beast!
TQ limits in the TCU are raised as to allow more power down to the ground but not fully removed as to still keep it safe, and of course line pressure, clamping pressure of the clutches are increased to match the increase in TQ, along with increase in shift speed, along with other nice small changes
It really makes for a more fun driving experience and nice performance increase.
Here is a fellow members car C63S, sounds amazing and is one clean beast!
TQ limits in the TCU are raised as to allow more power down to the ground but not fully removed as to still keep it safe, and of course line pressure, clamping pressure of the clutches are increased to match the increase in TQ, along with increase in shift speed, along with other nice small changes
It really makes for a more fun driving experience and nice performance increase.
No, not worried. For the extra fun and only 2k for good second hand box.
Do not think the ECU tune would do this. Might be the JB4 and the extra power it's making but tricking the ECU.
Anyway happy about it, less interference the better.
No, not worried. For the extra fun and only 2k for good second hand box.
Do not think the ECU tune would do this. Might be the JB4 and the extra power it's making but tricking the ECU.
Anyway happy about it, less interference the better.
That’s one way to look at it haha 👍
I’m curious what sort of hurdles you had to jump over to remove the TQ limits? Is this something we could do at home or requires expensive flashing tools? You’ve definitely sparked my interest, very curious to know how you managed this, be great if you could share for the community!
No, not worried. For the extra fun and only 2k for good second hand box.
Do not think the ECU tune would do this. Might be the JB4 and the extra power it's making but tricking the ECU.
Anyway happy about it, less interference the better.
The jb4 does not provide accurate tq values to the TCU. This can lead to long term clutch wear and issues. JB4 will under report those tq values.
Really the best way to get it done is via a proper Flash tune that accurately reports proper tq, with a full flash TCU tune, so they can work together
There are only 2 guys in the world that have access and can fully flash a Mercedes TCU. And it only can be done via laptop currently. I wouldn't trust a module with my trans computer.
There are 2 guys in the USA doing full TCU flashes. @5soko has been doing them on e63s side for a few months now and C63s that he posted videos of.
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