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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 11:42 AM
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Question about performance seats and longevity

Hello,

for everyone with performance seats, have you guys noticed they crease much easier than the regular seats?

I am about 5’11 and 212 pounds so definitely not super skinny but i wouldnt say I’m too big for these seats... My car currently has 5,000 miles and i definitely have been noticing the seats are starting to crease around the leg area and where my bottom end sits for some time. The sides are creasing a bit as well but not as bad as where my legs are. Is this normal since the seats were so stiff when i first got the car and are now starting to open up i guess?

Ive been applying leather conditioner to at least keep the leather moist...i get in and out of the car as carefully as i can however with the aero package along with the sport seats, getting in and out is definitely not the easiest thing in the world lol
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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 11:46 AM
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2 years later and my sport seats are fine. only 'issue' i would say are the creases on side bolster of the driver side seat but i think that is commong due to entering/exiting vehicle all the time.
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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 11:49 AM
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2 years later and my sport seats are fine. only 'issue' i would say are the creases on side bolster of the driver side seat but i think that is commong due to entering/exiting vehicle all the time.
ill upload some pics so you guys can see what I’m talking about... maybe I’m being OCD?
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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 11:52 AM
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Not good. I had visible wear on my driver's side bolster 1 year from new and Mercedes rejected my warranty repair for it saying it won't be covered. So now i'll have to get it restored with something when I find a leather fix up kit............ surprised how sh*t the quality is with our cars with all the little issues here and there but whatever 🤷‍♂️
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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 11:56 AM
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Not good. I had visible wear on my driver's side bolster 1 year from new and Mercedes rejected my warranty repair for it saying it won't be covered. So now i'll have to get it restored with something when I find a leather fix up kit............ surprised how sh*t the quality is with our cars with all the little issues here and there but whatever 🤷‍♂️

i thought it was a bit ridiculous to be honest. I bought the car December 3rd, MSRP of $99,040 and due to Covid etc I haven’t even driven the car that much. It is already august basically and the car just broke 5k miles...shouldn’t be seeing visible wear and tear already on a 100k car... that’s just my opinion though i guess
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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 11:57 AM
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i thought it was a bit ridiculous to be honest. I bought the car December 3rd, MSRP of $99,040 and due to Covid lockdowns in NYC for the last 5 months basically I haven’t even driven the car that much. It is already august basically and the car just broke 5k miles...shouldn’t be seeing visible wear and tear already on a 100k car... that’s just my opinion though i guess
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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Stevestil
Hello,

for everyone with performance seats, have you guys noticed they crease much easier than the regular seats?

I am about 5’11 and 212 pounds so definitely not super skinny but i wouldnt say I’m too big for these seats... My car currently has 5,000 miles and i definitely have been noticing the seats are starting to crease around the leg area and where my bottom end sits for some time. The sides are creasing a bit as well but not as bad as where my legs are. Is this normal since the seats were so stiff when i first got the car and are now starting to open up i guess?

Ive been applying leather conditioner to at least keep the leather moist...i get in and out of the car as carefully as i can however with the aero package along with the sport seats, getting in and out is definitely not the easiest thing in the world lol
getting in and out of these cars is a limbo/dance so to speak. I tell my passengers to mind the bolsters and don’t slide their asses over them, so as not to crease. When you yourself get in the car, put a foot in first then duck your head and swing your ****ter over the bolster, planting your butt in the seat without folding the bolster over. The best way to maintain them is not to ever slide in over them.
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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 12:07 PM
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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 03:39 PM
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You can avoid side bolster wear by not slamming into or rubbing against it each time you enter and exit the car.

If it’s too difficult, enter the car with your *** on seat first, then swing your legs inside. That way you don’t have your entire body weight nailing the bolster each time.

I don’t have excessive wear (15k miles), but I’m conscious of the bolsters when I enter/exit.
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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 03:54 PM
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When wearing my seat belt it rubs slightly against the left side of the sport seat's side causing a minor squeaking noise. I don't know if this also occurs on the standard seat. Otherwise the sport seats are great – comfortable on a long trip. I use the same entry / exit method as described above to avoid putting weight on the side bolsters.
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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 04:13 PM
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Nah, seat wear is fine. I've had mine for 15 months and 15k miles and conditioned them only once so far. Below is what it looked like a little earlier this year. Just some minor expected creases on the lower side bolster from getting in and out. I don't slide over the side bolsters or put my full weight on it, though. I'm 5'11" and 173 lbs and I use my core to get in and out of the seat. To get out, I swing my left leg over the high part of the side bolster, so it rests on the lower part towards the back, and then again I lift myself out of the car using my leg and core muscles. I have the aero package as well. Takes a bit of fitness for sure. Definitely a lot easier these days. I used to weigh almost 220 lbs when I got the car last year.


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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 04:59 PM
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Mine are fine and its a 2015 but one has 30,000 kms and I put a mechanics blanket on the lower as not to allow my pants to mark it up but not showing any creases as of yet .
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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 05:30 PM
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The smoother the leather the more it creases. As far as the driver side bolster, I usually hop over it. I weigh around 235 and the seat looks perfectly fine after 7k miles.
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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 05:43 PM
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As others have stated, it's the way you ingress/egress the vehicle. Personally, with the performance seats on the Benz and 18-way seats on the Macan, I've learned how to not tear up my seats. It really is more about technique.
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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 05:46 PM
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Let me say something else. A lot of people will let the back of their body hit the seat surface and then slide down the surface of the seat until the rump is planted. This movement will tear your seat up real fast. Wrinkles on the bolsters are from it being crushed over and over again. Practice getting in and out of the car if you care that much. If not, enjoy wrinkly seats.
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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 06:43 PM
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Im 6’2 220 lbs and it clearly shows that I get in and out as i please haha

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Old Jul 31, 2020 | 11:35 AM
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I can't speak to the fabric wear with only 3K on the clock, but the way the plastic trim around the fake 4 point harness slots has fallen off twice........ not to cool with that
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Old Jul 31, 2020 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Stevestil
i thought it was a bit ridiculous to be honest. ..shouldn’t be seeing visible wear and tear already on a 100k car...
To clarify this a bit, after dealing with numerous QC issues on my 2020 Coupe, I have come to the realization that this is NOT a $100K car. It's a $70K engine in a $30K car. But then to a certain degree we all knew that going in, right? We were all just hoping even a $30K Benz would be pretty reliable. Wrong !!! The C63 is either a bargain priced AMG GT or a ludicrously overpriced C300. Take your pick.


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To clarify this a bit, after dealing with numerous QC issues on my 2020 Coupe, I have come to the realization that this is NOT a $100K car. It's a $70K engine in a $30K car. But then to a certain degree we all knew that going in, right? We were all just hoping even a $30K Benz would be pretty reliable. Wrong !!! The C63 is either a bargain priced AMG GT or a ludicrously overpriced C300. Take your pick.
Yes, sure the C63 is a C Class and in Germany a C180 d starts in the mid 30k Euro, but there are higher quality materials in the more expensive versions. You don't get Nappa leather standard in a C180 and the Performance Seats are only for AMG. The price point does affect the choice of material. You'll find more plastic in a C Class than an S Class, but the AMG GT for example has many of the same issues with rattles and QC as the C63. Just look around on the forum here. This particular issue discussed here is a wear issue that comes down to how OP is getting in and out of the car. The material is Nappa leather, which is a high quality soft leather, C Class or not. Quite honestly, so far after 15k, my coupe feels very solid. Yes, there are a few obvious cheap parts, but overall the car has a very solid feel and occasional creaks can largely be attributed to the stiffer chassis and suspension. That's a compromise one has to accept with a performance variant.

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Old Jul 31, 2020 | 02:34 PM
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Yes, sure the C63 is a C Class and in Germany a C180 d starts in the mid 30k Euro, but there are higher quality materials in the more expensive versions. You don't get Nappa leather standard in a C180 and the Performance Seats are only for AMG. The price point does affect the choice of material. You'll find more plastic in a C Class than an S Class, but the AMG GT for example has many of the same issues with rattles and QC as the C63. Just look around on the forum here. This particular issue discussed here is a wear issue that comes down to how OP is getting in and out of the car. The material is Nappa leather, which is a high quality soft leather, C Class or not.
Agreed, but to be honest I'm shocked at the QC on these cars. Haven't had this many issues with a new car in probably 20+ years, and I buy a new car every three years. Had several BMWs and Audis prior to the C63 and they were far, far more reliable and better built. It's a shame we have to deal with this crap just to get a great engine, but so be it. I sort of expected it anyway. The C63 I had 12 years ago was pretty crap too other than the great engine. I guess that's just their game plan. Ha.
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Agreed, but to be honest I'm shocked at the QC on these cars. Haven't had this many issues with a new car in probably 20+ years, and I buy a new car every three years. Had several BMWs and Audis prior to the C63 and they were far, far more reliable and better built. It's a shame we have to deal with this crap just to get a great engine, but so be it. I sort of expected it anyway. The C63 I had 12 years ago was pretty crap too other than the great engine. I guess that's just their game plan. Ha.
I have had BMWs and Audis for the last 15+ years and I can't say my coupe feels any less solid than my previous cars. Having said that, the reality is that most Mercedes and luxury car buyers lease their cars and get a new one every three years. That's as long as it has to hold up for. Nobody really cares what happens after that. I'm not saying these cars can't hold up longer. I tend to keep my cars for 6-7 years and haive no issues with keeping them out of warranty if they hold up well during warranty and the early issues get addressed. If you constantly have issues with the car all the way up to the warranty expiring, then it's probably not a keeper. There's certainly truth to the saying "they don't build them like they used to", unfortunately. As for the W205, many don't like to hear this, but the W205 (sedan) was the first C Class built in the new Alabama factory and QC issues from that factory seemed to be way above average at least in the first few years. It's gotten better. Not sure if yours is a sedan, coupe or cab. Attention to detail by the work force and work ethics does matter in the final build quality of cars, even though some find this opinion controversial. German Engineering isn't what it used to be, either, but the culture and attention to details is very different in Western Europe compared to the USA. First time I came to this country I was shocked at how cheap and crappy the build quality of houses is here. Stuff is crooked all over and nobody seems to care. Complete lack of attention to details. When I see what Tesla considers acceptable to ship with their cars, my hairs stand up, but buyers don't seem to care to dump large sums of money on a car where stuff doesn't even line up properly and paint is flaking off after a few thousand miles or parts of the panels were missed during painting.

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Old Jul 31, 2020 | 03:02 PM
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My car is 2020 S Coupe, built in Germany. Good Lord, if the sedans are worse than the Coupes then I really do feel sorry for those owners.
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I, but the culture and attention to details is very different in Western Europe compared to the USA. First time I came to this country I was shocked at how cheap and crappy the build quality of houses is here. Stuff is crooked all over and nobody seems to care. Complete lack of attention to details. If I see what Tesla considers acceptable to ship with their cars, my hairs stand up, but buyers don't seem to care to dump large sums of money on a car where stuff doesn't even line up properly and paint is flaking off after a few thousand miles or parts of the panels were missed during painting.
Oh yea, and if you hop onto a Tesla forum and bad mouth any detail, the FanBoiyz with an inflatable Elon doll will crucify you in a heartbeat. (not mazdaspeedforums levels, but they try) So, I guess we wait until its more common than a stanley steamer, and the general public will "notice" the body panel mismatches.

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About 10 months and 7500 miles in. Wear is pretty good. Again, I lift myself over there the seat getting in and out.




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Reviving an old thread here ha . Does anyone know if the lower seat covers can be replaced on these performance seats ? If so cost/invasiveness , will contact mb tomorrow about it as well. Thanks
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