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I have a 2017 C63 AMG Sedan with 30,000 Miles on it. I am eventually get my Brake Calipers Powder Coated and to make things EASY for the shop. I planned to Provide them with:
1. OEM Mercedes New Caliper Bolts (Manual says to replace Caliper Bolts with NEW Bolts when removing Calipers), but not sure HOW necessary that really is?
Part # for FRONT Bolts: 0039907905 $9.24 Each * I looked this part # up on an OEM Benz Site for Parts and it showed $3.50 Part # for REAR Bolts: 910105012010 $3.60 Each
2. Caliper Rebuild Kit for the Rear and Front Rotors. I think this consists of 4 Seals and 4 Dust Boots for Each Caliper?
I called the Mercedes Parts Department and was told, they don't Offer or Sell the Individual Parts for Rebuilding the Calipers? He said you'd have to buy a whole Caliper
So my question is, for those who HAVE Taken off their Calipers and replaced the Caliper components with what I THOUGHT was Called "a Caliper Rebuild Kit", Where do you get these from and is it OK to use an after market kit? He did say they may be similar to BREMBO kits and they MAY sell them?
Timely ... I'm in the middle of doing a seal/dust-boot replacement. I did a WIS search and didn't find them so ordered an aftermarket seal/dust-boot kit by Centric. Turns out, it's a garbage product. In desparation, I called my dealer and they've ordered me the kits ... unfortunately they'll have to come from Germany, so I'll miss the last track day of the year. Lesson learned. Turns out there's no WIS job and you need to look in EPC. Lesson learned.
OK, so my car is a C63 S with the U70/red-caliper option (6-piston calipers) so yours are likely different. Regardless, you might want to try another dealer (and stay away from the Centric kits).
For reference, the dust-boot kit for U70/red C63 S calipers is Mercedes part # A 001 421 3186 (see attached screenshot from EPC).
For detail, the Centric seal/dust-boot kit (part # 143.35052) was unacceptable on 2 fronts:
- the Centric boots are "paper thin" (actually, I suspect most paper is thicker)
- the Centric boots won't extend far enough and will be torn (or pop out of it's caliper-surface mounting) when the pads get to their wear limit (see attached picture that has the piston extended to the point of worn pads and you can see that the boot still needs to be longer in order to allow the base to be seated into the caliper ... the worn-out black boots are the originals from the factory, after numerous track days)
Would anyone happen to know what the part number is for the rear brake (single piston) dust boot for the C63S (red brake calipers)? Not the dust boots for the bolts but the brake piston boot itself.
[QUOTE=user33;8153410]Timely ... I'm in the middle of doing a seal/dust-boot replacement. I did a WIS search and didn't find them so ordered an aftermarket seal/dust-boot kit by Centric. Turns out, it's a garbage product. In desperation, I called my dealer and they've ordered me the kits ... unfortunately, they'll have to come from Germany, so I'll miss the last track day of the year. Lesson learned. Turns out there's no WIS job and you need to look in EPC. Lesson learned.
OK, so my car is a C63 S with the U70/red-caliper option (6-piston calipers) so yours are likely different. Regardless, you might want to try another dealer (and stay away from the Centric kits). For detail, the Centric seal/dust-boot kit (part # 143.35052) was unacceptable on 2 fronts:
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Thanks and ALSO Timely! I JUST LOOKED at the Centric Kit 2 minutes ago, so I am GLAD you said something. It sounds like they M Benz does SELL the components for the caliper rebuild, but I need to check with a dealer who really knows their stuff. This is the dealer I go to as my car is under warranty and he told me there weren't kits to buy? DO YOU really need a Caliper Rebuild Kit? Or could my existing parts be in good shape after I take a look at them? Is a rebuild kit 100% Necessary? I heard they were $50 so that is why I figured may as well get one for both F&R, but maybe I don't? IF something got damaged while taking off or trying to reinstall, and the kits are in Germany, then I could be in trouble.
C63/C63S Rear calipers made by "TRW", and they don't have a contract with MB for a repair kit, isn't..?!?!
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They are TRW branded (231-423-04-81), not Brembo like the fronts.
They are the same rear calipers that AMG uses on the S63/S65 (Sedan and Coupe) and the SL63/65, so I’m surprised there’s no parts available to rebuild like a dust boot despite coming from TRW.
WIS : the Mercedes Workshop Information System (used by all dealers, etc.)
EPC : the Mercedes Electronic Parts Catalog (used by all dealers, etc. ... though it's being superceded)
Guys the whole reason I posted this was because I’m considering Powder Coating and a few places say they rebuild the Caliper SO I was trying to make sure I could get the correct OEM rubber parts and seals.
IF places (In General) are saying we Rebuild the Caliper after the Powder Coating. What the Hell are they using to do this?
OR maybe they are just saying REBUILD and are just reassembling the parts they removed in order to be able to put them in the oven.
so they are rebuilding it, but just putting back what they took off?
BUT what is they Rip something? I wonder what they are using. Of course I just need to ASK!
The place I’m close soldering the owner is a VET and they were both Race Car Drivers and know cars. He spent 40 minutes in March and 20 minutes last week so they are very patient and transparent.
They JUST Had a Benz AMG SUV and I’m calling tomorrow to find out HOW that went?
Did they have any issues with reinstalling calipers, Bleeding Brakes, Resetting the ABS System and it bleeding IF needed.
He told me he can do it manually. But it is a more involved process. He mentioned going 40 MPH and braking hard to engage the ABS and that Opens them up and bleeds the fluid out and then they have to do re bleed the brakes again.
This is only if the ABS needs to be reset. I was trying to Get as much info MYSELF to make sure things go smooth. I’m glad they just did Powder Coating a Mercedes Benz AMG SUV (Red).
Example,
1. Releasing The E Parking Brake which is required.
2. Getting into the Service Menu to scroll down to the menu that you Need to Access when you change or remove the Brake Pads. YOU GET HERE BY Pressing the 2 Buttons on the steering wheel at the same time and it brings up menu.
They know how to do the brakes and bleed them, BUT most people that haven’t removed calipers on Mercedes on a regular basis would NOT KNOW HOW to access that menu. I didn’t either until I looked it up.
I am just being Cautious as I don’t want to get my Calipers Done and Jack Up My Car! I am going to call tomorrow and find out how the AMG SUV They just powder coated RED Brake Caliper Removal, Bleeding, and Reinstall Went!
As far as the Caliper Rebuild Kit, it may NOT EVEN be necessary? As long as they are in good shape And they don’t accidentally damage them when they are removers, they should be able to reuse everything for the install. However, I’d LOVE to have just been able to just BUY the Rebuild Kit from the MB Dealership Parts Dept and provide it to them so they can rebuild the caliper with NEW Sealed Etc.
I bought the G2 Paint Kit 6 months ago and have it. That sure would be easier to Paint them and NOT Remove the calipers, BUT it won’t look as OEM and Perfect as Powder Coating.
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