Advice on C63S sedan vs. C63 coupe? (used)
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Advice on C63S sedan vs. C63 coupe? (used)
Hi guys. Looking to make a change and move on from my 2018 Mustang GT. I'm pretty set on getting a C63 after doing some research. And the dealer I'm working with happens to have a 2016 C63S, and 2017 C63 (non S) coupe for sale.
Just hard to decide between the two. The sedan is more well equipped and I like the color better (white vs. grey), but a year older. They both have the same miles. The coupe is $3000 more.
My question is this, would I regret paying more for the coupe just for the looks, over the faster and more well equipped sedan? I know I can get a tune for the coupe but I think I'll just keep them stock.
The sedan has the burmester sound, driver assistance, lighting package, multimedia package, performance seats (red/black two tone), performance exhaust, heads up display, carbon fiber interior trim, panoramic roof, etc. it seems to have everything.
The coupe is grey, which is not my first choice since my current car is grey and it's a little boring. But damn does it look good. It has the standard exhaust, and the standard seats. And again, it's a non-S and $3000 more (but a year newer). It just has premium 2, burmester, and carbon fiber trim. No HUD, driver assistance package, etc. and it also has the standard seats.
Right now I have a couple regrets with my Mustang. It's a premium but I do not have the digital gauges. It also didn't have the active exhaust so I had to get aftermarket exhaust. I don't have kids so small back seats aren't a big deal for me but the big long doors become a pain in some tight spaces and the C63 coupe would have the same issue. And I wish I had the Recaros instead of the standard seats.
Gas mileage is not a concern for me, neither is absolute at the limit handling. Acceleration is though, since I don't want to go to a car that is slower than my current one. The C63s would be about the same as my car when I run 91 instead of E85, and the C63 would be a little slower I think. I'm guessing a pump gas tune and CAI on these cars would make it a little faster than my current car on the E85 tune though (124mph trap in the 1/4 mile). But if I get an extended warranty I would probably have to keep it stock so I don't void it, and that's where the C63S vs. non-S comes into play....
So basically, I would be buying the coupe just for the looks. Would it have better resale value down the road? Have any of you guys bought the sedan and actually regretted it?
Just hard to decide between the two. The sedan is more well equipped and I like the color better (white vs. grey), but a year older. They both have the same miles. The coupe is $3000 more.
My question is this, would I regret paying more for the coupe just for the looks, over the faster and more well equipped sedan? I know I can get a tune for the coupe but I think I'll just keep them stock.
The sedan has the burmester sound, driver assistance, lighting package, multimedia package, performance seats (red/black two tone), performance exhaust, heads up display, carbon fiber interior trim, panoramic roof, etc. it seems to have everything.
The coupe is grey, which is not my first choice since my current car is grey and it's a little boring. But damn does it look good. It has the standard exhaust, and the standard seats. And again, it's a non-S and $3000 more (but a year newer). It just has premium 2, burmester, and carbon fiber trim. No HUD, driver assistance package, etc. and it also has the standard seats.
Right now I have a couple regrets with my Mustang. It's a premium but I do not have the digital gauges. It also didn't have the active exhaust so I had to get aftermarket exhaust. I don't have kids so small back seats aren't a big deal for me but the big long doors become a pain in some tight spaces and the C63 coupe would have the same issue. And I wish I had the Recaros instead of the standard seats.
Gas mileage is not a concern for me, neither is absolute at the limit handling. Acceleration is though, since I don't want to go to a car that is slower than my current one. The C63s would be about the same as my car when I run 91 instead of E85, and the C63 would be a little slower I think. I'm guessing a pump gas tune and CAI on these cars would make it a little faster than my current car on the E85 tune though (124mph trap in the 1/4 mile). But if I get an extended warranty I would probably have to keep it stock so I don't void it, and that's where the C63S vs. non-S comes into play....
So basically, I would be buying the coupe just for the looks. Would it have better resale value down the road? Have any of you guys bought the sedan and actually regretted it?
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Even though your missing out on the suspension and electronic diff and a few small things if it's a non "S", that's fine mate. Coupes are beasts.
Of course, sedans are very cool too but C63 Coupes have so much more road presence than the Sedan.
Just confirming again, the Coupe is a non "S" version, right?
Is there any chance you can scrap those two choices? Can you just try and find a pre facelift C63S Coupe? If you can, that would be the car to get.
Last edited by Jimmy_c63s; 12-26-2020 at 02:08 AM.
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In my opinion I would definitely go with the sedan. Missing out on the P.E. and HUD would be dealbreakers for me. With the HUD you never have to take you eyes off the road, or look down at the gauge cluster. And that P.E., ..... it sounds so good. The car is so much louder when it is engaged. I have the same red pepper interior in my sedan just without the performance seats and after 5 years they have aged incredibly well.
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I didn't mention before but the driver assist package is definitely nice to have, I dont have it on the 63 but my c450 had it, and while I always had steering and lane keep assist turned off because they are annoying, the radar guided cruise control was awesome in traffic.
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I didn't mention before but the driver assist package is definitely nice to have, I dont have it on the 63 but my c450 had it, and while I always had steering and lane keep assist turned off because they are annoying, the radar guided cruise control was awesome in traffic.
Last edited by '1663s; 12-26-2020 at 04:00 AM.
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Although I just ordered a 2021 Cabriolet, I get updates on Cars.com when a C63 or C63s hits the market. It seems that within the last 1-2 weeks, there has been more available. Obviously if you think you are not settling for the choices at your dealership, that would be the way to go especially getting the tax credit of your trade. Check local dealers around you to be able to trade your car. Just go in knowing your numbers on the selling and buying side. If selling your car privately is an option, you may get a few thousand more which would offset the tax credit. I would think it is easier to get a better deal if your trade-in is taken out of the equation. BUT, selling privately, especially with Covid could be a pain in the rear. It does seem that you have some nice choices at your dealership. Both cars look great! Good luck!
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Between the two I’d pick the Sedan because of Performance Exhaust, Performance Seats, HUD etc.
if you prefer the coupe c63s over sedan in general, I’d recommend you look for one with the color and options you want, even if takes longer.
if you prefer the coupe c63s over sedan in general, I’d recommend you look for one with the color and options you want, even if takes longer.
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Between the two I would also choose the sedan. Because of exhaust, seats, head up display, headlights...
But I would also recommend to wait for a better option (pre facelift coupe with good specs) if you really like the coupe so much more.
Just fyI: The sedan has an aftermarket diffusor - might be worth to check for a rear impact. The coupe however is lowered a lot so it might be worth to check if the shocks are still ok.
But I would also recommend to wait for a better option (pre facelift coupe with good specs) if you really like the coupe so much more.
Just fyI: The sedan has an aftermarket diffusor - might be worth to check for a rear impact. The coupe however is lowered a lot so it might be worth to check if the shocks are still ok.
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I would go for the Sedan since its better equipped and I find it better looking. Having come from 2014 Audi S5, I find C63 AMG Coupe to be too bulbous from rear. Like it looks too high off the ground from the back. But more importantly, you want the PE exhaust. I have 2017 C63s Sedan with performance seats, and all the other goodies but no PE. Thinking of getting the AWE Switch patch which is a good alternative but having a button in the center console to turn vales on/off is the way to go.
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Sedan...but I am biased towards white sedan's ...question is how you want to use it, Coupe's are great and I like the wider setup in front, I am not a real fan of the coupe rear vs the sedan rear but its still very nice. I picked the sedan as I use it daily and at times need those 4 doors...
And I agree with some of the comments above, there are things that are hard, impossible, or very expensive to upgrade later (HUD, Seats, Lane Keep Assist/Driver Assistance, Headlights), Exhaust is easy but the PE is great and most aftermarket of the same quality are expensive and/or don't integrate with the OEM valve controls (only few do). FL models have some perks (digital display, 9G transmission). I like my PFL though including the PE sound (with ASR even better) and the little harsher suspension of PFL sedans is up to my taste.
PS: From the pics, it also looks the sedan has the upgraded Brake package too! Big plus in my book.
And I agree with some of the comments above, there are things that are hard, impossible, or very expensive to upgrade later (HUD, Seats, Lane Keep Assist/Driver Assistance, Headlights), Exhaust is easy but the PE is great and most aftermarket of the same quality are expensive and/or don't integrate with the OEM valve controls (only few do). FL models have some perks (digital display, 9G transmission). I like my PFL though including the PE sound (with ASR even better) and the little harsher suspension of PFL sedans is up to my taste.
PS: From the pics, it also looks the sedan has the upgraded Brake package too! Big plus in my book.
Last edited by tobeit; 12-26-2020 at 12:47 PM.
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Same mileage and coupe costs $3k more. I definitely take the sedan. The sedan is an S and also has a lot more options. The PE exhaust is a must have in an AMG.
Not sure if sedan has Ceramic brakes but that’s a pretty expensive option as are the upgraded sports seats.
Yeah the coupe is overall nicer looking over sedan (I have sedan) but the S and options on sedan makes it better than coupe. If you were to spend the money to upgrade the coupe to near sedan spec, you’re looking to spend quite a bit more.
Btw I like the rear diffuser on that sedan. The oem diffuser from PFL looks a little too tame.
Not sure if sedan has Ceramic brakes but that’s a pretty expensive option as are the upgraded sports seats.
Yeah the coupe is overall nicer looking over sedan (I have sedan) but the S and options on sedan makes it better than coupe. If you were to spend the money to upgrade the coupe to near sedan spec, you’re looking to spend quite a bit more.
Btw I like the rear diffuser on that sedan. The oem diffuser from PFL looks a little too tame.
Last edited by mbny1234; 12-26-2020 at 05:49 PM.
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I'd keep searching if I was in your boat. The performance exhaust and seats are must have options in my opinion. I also much prefer coupes and wouldn't buy a sedan just because it was better optioned. You already have a car and if you aren't in a rush and prefer the coupe body style, I'd suggest you just keep looking for a coupe that has the options you want.
Last edited by SJGetsome; 12-27-2020 at 03:45 AM.
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Sedan has much better ride comfort.
Firstly I tried coupe S, 19/20" setup, too hard for daily use, then ordered fully loaded Sedan non S and added tune
Firstly I tried coupe S, 19/20" setup, too hard for daily use, then ordered fully loaded Sedan non S and added tune
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I typically prefer coupes to sedans, but there's such a difference in options packages here that I think the sedan is the clear choice.
Or if you think you'd be sacrificing something with either choice, keep looking until you find exactly what you want.
Or if you think you'd be sacrificing something with either choice, keep looking until you find exactly what you want.
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If you continue your search for a C63/s, especially if you are trying to be specific with what you want, you must decide how far (literally) you want to go to find the right car. If you limit your search to local dealers in your area, you probably won't be able to be as selective, but it would be an easier transaction. Increasing your search to longer distances will definitely give you more choices but then it gets more complicated with travel, arranging PPI's ( pre-purchase inspections) trading in your car, and transporting your new car.
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If you continue your search for a C63/s, especially if you are trying to be specific with what you want, you must decide how far (literally) you want to go to find the right car. If you limit your search to local dealers in your area, you probably won't be able to be as selective, but it would be an easier transaction. Increasing your search to longer distances will definitely give you more choices but then it gets more complicated with travel, arranging PPI's ( pre-purchase inspections) trading in your car, and transporting your new car.
I probably could've chiseled a slightly better deal by dealing direct, but it was headache-free and its invaluable to have an established relationship with my local dealer (who had zero C63s in stock), and a "throat to choke" if something were to have gone wrong. But knock on wood, I'm just over 1,000 miles in, and am in love with the car. And I'm so glad I got all the options I wanted.
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I beg to differ - neither looks more or less different than its none-AMG counterpart. The untrained eye will not see a difference for Coupe or Sedan. There are additional differences between Sedan and Coupe but neither share the same setup as their none-AMG counterpart.
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I am biased but I’d say sedan. The one I have like this one is equipped up to the gills. It’s a clear choice to me, although I did want the coupe, I have found that having the sedan has better suited me. And like others have said, try extending your search, I live in San Diego but bought mine in North Carolina. It had the price point and exact spec I was looking for. Don’t settle at the end of the day, it is your hard earned money.
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Sedan. You get the better seats, HUD, adaptive cruise and more practicality. Performance wise you get more power, upgraded brakes, performance exhaust, dynamic engine mounts and most likely a lighter chassis. Coupes are great (personally I think they look better/more aggressive), but between these two options you are missing a lot going non-S. And, it's cheaper. Would be no brainer for me!
PS. I have the designo white sedan with similar specs but no moonroof to keep the weight down (our cars are already heavy as is) and no CC brakes (as I have no interest in tracking a 3,900lb sedan).
PS. I have the designo white sedan with similar specs but no moonroof to keep the weight down (our cars are already heavy as is) and no CC brakes (as I have no interest in tracking a 3,900lb sedan).