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I’m beginning my search for a used 2019ish C63 S. I know these things are hard to come by so I’ll be patient. Was wondering how much room buyers have working price on these cars. My last few cars have been from Lexus so never dealt with Mercedes before. Currently I own a Lexus GS350 and love it but Lexus lost me and discontinued the car...so time to upgrade!
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It really varies. There's so many factors like what the dealer had to adjust the ACV to make the deal make sense on whatever they were trading it in on, if it needed lots of wear items replaced when it was traded in, And of course how long its been on the lot. A dealer is less likely to take an aggressive deal on a car that is fairly new in inventory if they think they can get more especially if it is a harder to find model.
No real way to give you a set amount of wiggle room that you can get. I work in car sales and typically we will have our first asking price for used cars around 5-10k over cost. (Vehicle cost+repairs+pack fee)
But if you are at the point where they are letting you walk. You're probably at the bottom of the barrel.
Also keep in mind the dealer probably knows that these are hard to find so if you go in, understand they probably realize that you are looking for a very specific rare car they happen to have in inventory so the chances of you being willing to pay more are higher.
No real way to give you a set amount of wiggle room that you can get. I work in car sales and typically we will have our first asking price for used cars around 5-10k over cost. (Vehicle cost+repairs+pack fee)
But if you are at the point where they are letting you walk. You're probably at the bottom of the barrel.
Also keep in mind the dealer probably knows that these are hard to find so if you go in, understand they probably realize that you are looking for a very specific rare car they happen to have in inventory so the chances of you being willing to pay more are higher.
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Maybe not the best advise but try to sell your Lexus outright before pursuing the MB. Although you are losing your tax credit, you might make it up in having a little more wiggle room in your purchase not having a trade-in in the equation. Forum member SteveDesai may have some input into this strategy
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Maybe not the best advise but try to sell your Lexus outright before pursuing the MB. Although you are losing your tax credit, you might make it up in having a little more wiggle room in your purchase not having a trade-in in the equation. Forum member SteveDesai may have some input into this strategy
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FWIW.. Maybe think about it a different way. Unless you’re paying cash what is your pain threshold for driving what you want, per month. Car salesmen’s specialty is to manipulate the numbers to squeeze as much out of you as they can.
You’re going to pay more than what it’s worth to drive a high performance luxury vehicle, accept it. The best perspective you’re going to get is to shop the vehicles and see what the dealers will do. When I negotiated my car I had to drive 200+ miles to see it. I researched multiple models in the area (Atlanta), when we started talking price I told the dealer “I’m driving home in a C63s, there’s another one just like this one 10 miles up the road, how bad do you want to sell it?” I left indicating how much I needed for my trade if I paid asking for what I was shopping. He called me in an hour saying we had a deal. I still paid more than it was worth, but I’ve never regretted my decision. It’s everything I was looking for in a high performance GT. Lexus are great cars but I wouldn’t take one if you gave it to me, it’s a personal thing. If you get the MB, you’ll likely agree with me. Good luck, let us know how it turned out.
You’re going to pay more than what it’s worth to drive a high performance luxury vehicle, accept it. The best perspective you’re going to get is to shop the vehicles and see what the dealers will do. When I negotiated my car I had to drive 200+ miles to see it. I researched multiple models in the area (Atlanta), when we started talking price I told the dealer “I’m driving home in a C63s, there’s another one just like this one 10 miles up the road, how bad do you want to sell it?” I left indicating how much I needed for my trade if I paid asking for what I was shopping. He called me in an hour saying we had a deal. I still paid more than it was worth, but I’ve never regretted my decision. It’s everything I was looking for in a high performance GT. Lexus are great cars but I wouldn’t take one if you gave it to me, it’s a personal thing. If you get the MB, you’ll likely agree with me. Good luck, let us know how it turned out.
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FWIW.. Maybe think about it a different way. Unless you’re paying cash what is your pain threshold for driving what you want, per month. Car salesmen’s specialty is to manipulate the numbers to squeeze as much out of you as they can.
You’re going to pay more than what it’s worth to drive a high performance luxury vehicle, accept it. The best perspective you’re going to get is to shop the vehicles and see what the dealers will do. When I negotiated my car I had to drive 200+ miles to see it. I researched multiple models in the area (Atlanta), when we started talking price I told the dealer “I’m driving home in a C63s, there’s another one just like this one 10 miles up the road, how bad do you want to sell it?” I left indicating how much I needed for my trade if I paid asking for what I was shopping. He called me in an hour saying we had a deal. I still paid more than it was worth, but I’ve never regretted my decision. It’s everything I was looking for in a high performance GT. Lexus are great cars but I wouldn’t take one if you gave it to me, it’s a personal thing. If you get the MB, you’ll likely agree with me. Good luck, let us know how it turned out.
You’re going to pay more than what it’s worth to drive a high performance luxury vehicle, accept it. The best perspective you’re going to get is to shop the vehicles and see what the dealers will do. When I negotiated my car I had to drive 200+ miles to see it. I researched multiple models in the area (Atlanta), when we started talking price I told the dealer “I’m driving home in a C63s, there’s another one just like this one 10 miles up the road, how bad do you want to sell it?” I left indicating how much I needed for my trade if I paid asking for what I was shopping. He called me in an hour saying we had a deal. I still paid more than it was worth, but I’ve never regretted my decision. It’s everything I was looking for in a high performance GT. Lexus are great cars but I wouldn’t take one if you gave it to me, it’s a personal thing. If you get the MB, you’ll likely agree with me. Good luck, let us know how it turned out.
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what I’m getting at is for example the Lexus GSF is known to sell for almost 10% under asking price. Again I’m familiar with Lexus and how their cars sell but honestly this forum doesn’t have as much talk as the Lexus forum. There should be threads here just discussing prices paid. That helps all members
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what I’m getting at is for example the Lexus GSF is known to sell for almost 10% under asking price. Again I’m familiar with Lexus and how their cars sell but honestly this forum doesn’t have as much talk as the Lexus forum. There should be threads here just discussing prices paid. That helps all members
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I looked at a new 2020 C63s Cab. at a local MB dealership. They finally sold it a couple of weeks ago but with the depreciation of these cars and the fact that the 2021 models are out, it was in their showroom for a long time. Maybe the Cabriolets are not in high demand but living in Florida, this is the time of year that they should be in higher demand. They did have a 2019 C63 Cab CPO but that did sell quickly. As I recall, it was in the 70k range. I ended up ordering a 2021 C63s Cab at 7% off MSRP. I have shopped various models of pre-owned cars and can tell you it can get very frustrating being able to find the color, equipment and price you are willing to pay. Less negotiating power if you find one that checks off the right boxes. Unfortunately with high demand, low milage models, if you don't buy it, the next person will. The dealership knows that.
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I looked at a new 2020 C63s Cab. at a local MB dealership. They finally sold it a couple of weeks ago but with the depreciation of these cars and the fact that the 2021 models are out, it was in their showroom for a long time. Maybe the Cabriolets are not in high demand but living in Florida, this is the time of year that they should be in higher demand. They did have a 2019 C63 Cab CPO but that did sell quickly. As I recall, it was in the 70k range. I ended up ordering a 2021 C63s Cab at 7% off MSRP. I have shopped various models of pre-owned cars and can tell you it can get very frustrating being able to find the color, equipment and price you are willing to pay. Less negotiating power if you find one that checks off the right boxes. Unfortunately with high demand, low milage models, if you don't buy it, the next person will. The dealership knows that.
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Everyone is gonna have their story of some great under MSRP deal, but talking to a few friends that are in the biz, AMG (like Porsche tends to be, and NOT BMW) tend to sell for MSRP, take it or leave it. They dont HAVE to sell that rare C63 (there were only 8 sedans on the east coast when I was looking)
My Porsche 911 GTS was 8% off, definitely no discounts on their GT cars. Hell, I got a discount on McLaren 570s when they just hit the market.
My point is that unless it's a super rare model, you will be able to get discounts.
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Ummm no. Dealers selling AMG cars will pretend like how rare it is blah blah blah... You should easily be able to get 7% off. I had another dealer offer 10% off. This is on a brand new in stock cars. I can sure ordered cars are still able to get roughly 7%....
My Porsche 911 GTS was 8% off, definitely no discounts on their GT cars. Hell, I got a discount on McLaren 570s when they just hit the market.
My point is that unless it's a super rare model, you will be able to get discounts.
My Porsche 911 GTS was 8% off, definitely no discounts on their GT cars. Hell, I got a discount on McLaren 570s when they just hit the market.
My point is that unless it's a super rare model, you will be able to get discounts.
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What's the point of price talk on forums? Do your research, determine what you want to buy and can afford and roll with it. If someone tells you on a forum he got that or this what does it do to you? If after the fact it may feel like you regret the deal you just made, if before there are so many circumstance how negotiations vary and I doubt it helps you with your negotiations. So, maybe bragging rights i sth ereasin why people post on forums what they paid? If you can't determine what you should and want to pay for the car you want - don't buy it. to be honest, I don't even remember what I paid - would have to look at the sales paper...at that time I thought I paid a fair price...rest is irrelevant.
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Ummm no. Dealers selling AMG cars will pretend like how rare it is blah blah blah... You should easily be able to get 7% off. I had another dealer offer 10% off. This is on a brand new in stock cars. I can sure ordered cars are still able to get roughly 7%....
My Porsche 911 GTS was 8% off, definitely no discounts on their GT cars. Hell, I got a discount on McLaren 570s when they just hit the market.
My point is that unless it's a super rare model, you will be able to get discounts.
My Porsche 911 GTS was 8% off, definitely no discounts on their GT cars. Hell, I got a discount on McLaren 570s when they just hit the market.
My point is that unless it's a super rare model, you will be able to get discounts.
thank you
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What's the point of price talk on forums? Do your research, determine what you want to buy and can afford and roll with it. If someone tells you on a forum he got that or this what does it do to you? If after the fact it may feel like you regret the deal you just made, if before there are so many circumstance how negotiations vary and I doubt it helps you with your negotiations. So, maybe bragging rights i sth ereasin why people post on forums what they paid? If you can't determine what you should and want to pay for the car you want - don't buy it. to be honest, I don't even remember what I paid - would have to look at the sales paper...at that time I thought I paid a fair price...rest is irrelevant.
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i actually ignored this comment because it literally serves no purpose to anyone on this forum. Price paid for a vehicle is absolutely a useful tool for future purchases. It’s also just something to talk about. This forum is a community.
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Its your choice to agree or disagree with me and that is fine. But the fact you said my post serves no purpose is contrary to your own point that you like to hear opinions. Cant have it both ways. Good luck. I am also bored by reading threads who got what percentage or not.
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yes, there were changes between PFL and FL, which have been extensively discussed here, but I was wondering about "body" changes....I guess you clarified it as you consider a grille and diffuser a body change.
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it was just a generic response referring to slight changes from the 2018-2019
