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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 08:44 AM
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App engine remote start -- but then....

This is really weird - when I start my car with the MM app and then go to open the door, the engine immediately shuts off and you have to re-start the car. What gives with that! I've tried various times with the same result, and the "remote unlock" feature of the MM app is grayed out after you start the car. This may sound like my OCD is kicking in, but damn that's stooooopid if it's supposed to be like that.
Anyone else have a different experience? I need to try it on the C43 and see if it does the same!
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 09:09 AM
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Yup, this is a security feature, nothing wrong with the car
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by NYCSoiL
Yup, this is a security feature, nothing wrong with the car
+1 - I think its a requirement not just for MB but all others, Was the same on all my cars so far who had remote start. Remote start was mostly envisioned to help warming up the engine (and some let you also turn on A/C) and in particular for cold winters.
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 10:19 AM
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Well I say blah to that! My 2019 Jeep Wrangler doesn't do this so take that MB!! Dang!
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by djprov431
Well I say blah to that! My 2019 Jeep Wrangler doesn't do this so take that MB!! Dang!
You sure your Wrangler was not rigged?
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by tobeit
You sure your Wrangler was not rigged?
Ha Ha -- yep! You remote start it (via keyfob) with doors locked, press unlock on the key fob ---( I just realized I never tried that step on the MB, I always use the door handle) press the engine start button to wake everything up and go (engine stays running). Now I gotta go test the MB again and see if pressing unlock on the key fob allows the engine to stay running!
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 10:41 AM
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Well my excitement for a resolution has been quickly erased -- it didn't work As soon as I hit unlock on the keyfob the MB engine cuts out.
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 11:01 AM
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I am with you that it is stupid that it shuts off the engine when you pull the handle to open the door. The car can obviously detect the presence of the key so it should allow you to get in and go without having to re-start the car.

I understand not allowing the doors to be unlocked via the app while the car is ruining, but if you're opening the door to get in, it should remain on.
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 12:04 PM
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As said by others, yes that's how it is. Engine only runs for 10 minutes or until you unlock the car in person, whichever comes first. I don't use it at all. Find it wasteful, which I guess is a bit funny coming from somebody driving a V8, but it does bother me to idle the engine just to warm up or cool down the car before getting in. Not to mention that idling an ice cold engine increases wear and tear as the metal expands much slower. With modern engines, you are supposed to start it and drive off immediately. That way the transmission and everything warms up, too, and the engine reaches operating temperature much quicker. I've considered using it on a hot summer day if the car was parked in the sun, but I generally just hold the unlock button on the fob to as I'm walking up to it to lower the windows, open the sunroof and turn on the seat ventilation, so that the bulk of the heat can escape. At home, the car is parked in my garage, so it's never too cold or too hot getting in, and on a chilly day just turn on the bun warmers.

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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
As said by others, yes that's how it is. Engine only runs for 10 minutes or until you unlock the car in person, whichever comes first. I don't use it at all. Find it wasteful, which I guess is a bit funny coming from somebody driving a V8, but it does bother me to idle the engine just to warm up or cool down the car before getting in. Not to mention that idling an ice cold engine increases wear and tear as the metal expand much slower. With modern engines, you are supposed to start it and drive off immediately. That way the transmission and everything warms up, too, and the engine reaches operating temperature much quicker. I've considered using it on a hot summer day if the car was parked in the sun, but I generally just hold the unlock button on the fob to as I'm walking up to it to lower the windows, open the sunroof and turn on the seat ventilation, so that the bulk of the heat can escape. At home, the car is parked in my garage, so it's never too cold or too hot getting in, and on a chilly day just turn on the bun warmers.
I only use it after I've driven it somewhere - as in, the car is already warmed up, it's been parked in the sun and I want it cooled off before I hop in. My car doesn't get too hot with the ceramic window tint, but when I don't put up the front window screen it will heat up....so perfect use of remote start. Other than that I don't use it.
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by djprov431
I only use it after I've driven it somewhere - as in, the car is already warmed up, it's been parked in the sun and I want it cooled off before I hop in. My car doesn't get too hot with the ceramic window tint, but when I don't put up the front window screen it will heat up....so perfect use of remote start. Other than that I don't use it.
Mhm, if that is how you use it why does it bother you it turns off when opening the door?
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Old Jul 17, 2021 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by tobeit
Mhm, if that is how you use it why does it bother you it turns off when opening the door?
I think you're missing the point of this thread - I don't care for the "safety or security" feature - I think it's unnecessary to start the car twice, in fact it's embarrassing.
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Old Jul 17, 2021 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by djprov431
I think you're missing the point of this thread - I don't care for the "safety or security" feature - I think it's unnecessary to start the car twice, in fact it's embarrassing.
Imagine you start your car remotely and its running. You walk to your car and the neighbor (or a stranger) stops you to ask you a question. Since you're close to your car it senses the key and while you're not paying attention to your car someone can open a door and drive it away. Then you wouldn't think that this "feature" is embarrassing..
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Old Jul 17, 2021 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by NYCSoiL
Imagine you start your car remotely and its running. You walk to your car and the neighbor (or a stranger) stops you to ask you a question. Since you're close to your car it senses the key and while you're not paying attention to your car someone can open a door and drive it away. Then you wouldn't think that this "feature" is embarrassing..

That is ridiculous - you've got to be kidding.
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Old Jul 17, 2021 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by djprov431
I think you're missing the point of this thread - I don't care for the "safety or security" feature - I think it's unnecessary to start the car twice, in fact it's embarrassing.
Nah, not missing the point ... you maybe the only one embarrassed to start his V8...I bet some do it just to have fun more often then needed ;-) This sounds like a problem made up in search of a problem.
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Old Jul 17, 2021 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tobeit
Nah, not missing the point ... you maybe the only one embarrassed to start his V8...I bet some do it just to have fun more often then needed ;-) This sounds like a problem made up in search of a problem.
I foolishly thought the price of these cars would filter out the BS and idiots - If I start the car remotely I don't want to start it again in three minutes when I get in it, get the ****in point yet?
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Old Jul 17, 2021 | 03:16 PM
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I foolishly thought the price of these cars would filter out the BS and idiots - If I start the car remotely I don't want to start it again in three minutes when I get in it, get the ****in point yet?
You sound very childish at best. Have a nice day and grow up some before insulting people.
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Old Jul 17, 2021 | 03:17 PM
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You sound very childish at best. Have a nice day and grow up some before insulting people.
Quite sure I'm old enough to be your dad -- so grow the **** up son.
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Old Jul 17, 2021 | 03:19 PM
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Quite sure I'm old enough to be your dad -- so grow the **** up son.
doubt that. Chill out and cut out the insults.
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Old Jul 19, 2021 | 11:16 AM
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I think it's mainly because of German regulations. Just about all other cars offer you remote start via the key fob and none of my other cars turn off when you get in them after a remote start. All you need to do is put your foot on the brake and hit the start button again. Hell I had a couple of Dodge Durango's that I could get in a ride down the street without the key before a message popped up saying "key not recongnized"!
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Old Jul 19, 2021 | 11:24 AM
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I think it's mainly because of German regulations. Just about all other cars offer you remote start via the key fob and none of my other cars turn off when you get in them after a remote start. All you need to do is put your foot on the brake and hit the start button again. Hell I had a couple of Dodge Durango's that I could get in a ride down the street without the key before a message popped up saying "key not recongnized"!
My Toyota and Mazda did the same, shut off when door is opened.
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Originally Posted by djprov431
Quite sure I'm old enough to be your dad -- so grow the **** up son.
You're getting real upset over something people in this forum didn't design and have zero control over. If you don't like it, get a regular remote start that doesn't have that feature instead of relying on a free, ****ty app.
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Old Jul 20, 2021 | 06:16 AM
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You're getting real upset over something people in this forum didn't design and have zero control over. If you don't like it, get a regular remote start that doesn't have that feature instead of relying on a free, ****ty app.
I'm not upset at MB, the forum, nor am I going to change anything - it was a simple question that received some comments I didn't care for....it's as easy as that.
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Originally Posted by djprov431
it was a simple question that received some comments I didn't care for....it's as easy as that.
Welcome to the INTERNET .. lol
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I foolishly thought the price of these cars would filter out the BS and idiots - If I start the car remotely I don't want to start it again in three minutes when I get in it, get the ****in point yet?
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Quite sure I'm old enough to be your dad -- so grow the **** up son.
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I'm not upset at MB, the forum, nor am I going to change anything - it was a simple question that received some comments I didn't care for....it's as easy as that.
"don't care" about something vs insults - two different things...3..2..1..
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