Belong

Guys, what is a good set of upgraded brakepads for the stock 390mm 6 pots brakes on the C63s .... im looking for a good fast road pad that has good bite.. and will keep biting...

any recommendations?

superswiss

What's wrong with the OE pads? They provide what you are looking for. If you want an upgrade, then upgrade your rotors to full floating rotors for more consistent braking.

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mer...mbo-0004206600

Spicywolff

EBC red if street only. EBC yellow stuff or hawk ceramic/5.0 for aggressive street and auto X.

ATE super is the fluid I run., I buy from FCP euro since I can lifetime ware the pads and rotors. When these new disks wear I’m going brembo 2 part.

Iridium.C63s

I did the mistake of using Hawk 5.0's at the track... after the second hot lap they felt like butter. Using carbotech xp12's in the rear and xp20's in the front with brembo 2 piece rotors now.

Iridium.C63s

OE pads will defenitely be perfect. like this guy says just upgrade the rotors. even better setup is to order Goodridge ss braided brake lines. (order them from a UK shop*)

Srvclub

Original FF is poor. ONLY GG mark. i used EBC YELLOW+ROTORS on bobbins GT AMG on c63s. 390mm. perfect.

Iridium.C63s

WHAT IN THE FLYING EFFF IS FF,GG, AND BOBBINS?

C60 Free

Which rotors and bobbins? Can you post some P/Ns please?

Shlick96

I changed out my OEM pads on my 21 FL because the squealing was outrageous. I only had 18k miles on it when it would squeal at every stop sign. Swapped out with Portersfield front and rear.. Never heard a damn squeal again. And bite is decent.

ChrisHimself

Very few pads have the initial bite of a metallic pad, the pads are a wad of copper or iron glued together. The typical characteristics good pedal feel, good heat holding and a huge backing plate, cold brake torque since metal doesn't care what temp it is. The downside is dust, noise, longevity, which is typically 20-30k and they're done. They have started squealing as soon as 4 months after leaving the shop, still greased and clean. They just make noise, it's a fact of life.

Trading into ceramic you will have less pedal modulation which is a good thing since most people appreciate a firm pedal you don't have baby, less dust, no noise through the entire life of the pad down to the backing plate. You won't stop "harder", but operationally they are better pads for you. The first stop you might have to pedal it a little harder on the AMG's to get heat in them, but it's not noticeable unless you're flying into a stop from 60+.

If you're trying to stop even harder, you'd go to an even more aggressive pad which has harder bite at higher tempuratures than you're currently driving at. Hawk DTC, Blue, etc. The drive much worse at street temps when they have a chance to cool down between stops, super noisy and you won't get full brake functionality until about 3 stops, and once they get cold again it's not great. The stock pad compound for Mercedes is not even the same conversation as what you'd find on a normal car, Mercedes sedans and coupes have been capable of comparable braking distances to 911's for a while now.

My recommendation is to switch to Brembo NAO Ceramic. Also I wouldn't only change pads. The OEM TRW pad leaves grooves on the rotor which match the pad so they're pretty much paired. You won't get a consistent mating surface and you'll reduce the effectiveness and longevity of new parts. When shopping for rotors those Brembo 2-piece rotors look awesome, or you can go VNE for OEM. I've used both they're within $50 of each other.

Jeff SD

I just picked up a set of these pads .Reviews were pretty solid, I’m hoping they reduce the brake dust significantly . 🤞

ChrisHimself

those are great, people love them and they're pretty much Hawk HPS performance for way way less money. I do like that the kit forces people to replace their brake hardware and sensors too.

I had them on the 335i along with their rotors and I was very impressed. You can really lay into em too and they won't care.

Spicywolff

Hawk 5.0 being a street and auto cross pad, I’m not at all surprised. Some pads can handle the double duty. That pad does it’s primary 2 well and that’s it lol.

Spicywolff

speaking another language

Spicywolff

I find it crazy how so many shops and DIY folks never replace the hardware. It’s not expensive at all

ChrisHimself

I've never seen issues from not doing it, same with reusing the sensor if it physically still works. But it all goes through a large number of heat cycles. The factory Mercedes ones are a bit brutal but if I can substitute with Centric, Raybestos, Powerstop, Carlson, Dorman, in a pinch I'll throw it on the tab whether the customer wants it or not. Cleanliness is godliness. Clean work is kind of a hallmark of dealer-level service. and I go through a case of Brakekleen every month for it. Silicone spray beauty covers, cleaning out threads, I DON'T actually use antiseize on the hub because MB said the tolerances change and you can warp the hub with superheated grease, I don't use a picklefork/ball joint separator when it can be avoided, the tiniest things let me sleep at night. Some shops don't even clean down your oil leakage after doing the repair to fix it and I hate that.

Spicywolff

while most times old hardware isn’t a problem, I see it in a case of. If I’m already in there, may as well clean-replace-relube. I’m not in there often so an extra hour of
my time won’t kill me.

I do agree this would be the mark of a quality shop and dealer. But as we all know, they love to cut corners and go fast to get the next job in.

2020C63s

hey , has nothing to do with this thread , but is this site legit to buy Castrol SRF oil lol? Instead of amazon (im in canada)

superswiss

FCP Euro? They are totally legit.

///Bruce

I don’t track my cars. I fly to Vegas and race other people’s cars around a track in excess of 150mph (Exotic Racing). It breaks? Tough. Not my car.

I drive quickly. That said I have used EBC Red Stuff on two previous AMG C63’s, a Ford GT500 rated at 650hp at the flywheel, a 2006 M3 and currently on my 2020FL coupe. On the Macan Turbo I run Yellow Stuff with upgraded Teflon coated SS brake lines from Goodridge and fresh fluid.

I have three qualifiers for pads: must stop good cold, NO noise and minimal dust. I’m happy with the pads I’m running now.

GooseHK

+1.... same scenario , action and result

tp767

Same here. Ordered from FCP Euro and will get my next set from them as well because they offer a lifetime warranty on em! (Yes, really.)

Struth

Worst pad ever. Pedal goes hard after the 4th downhill corner. Junk
My Brembo factory pads are much better

Spicywolff

yes FCP euro is 100% legit. i use them for a lot of my parts

mischief

interesting experience. I utilize the z26 in the front and z23 in the rear. i don't notice any difference in performance when street driving compared to OE pads. I love that they produce way less dust than the OE pads though.