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I have decided on the 33k mile CPO one in Nashville (w/o Driver Assistance) vs the 4k in Michigan (with Drivers Assistance).
I called the Chevy dealer in Michigan that has the 4k one. They bought the car at an auction for a Michigan football player who was just drafted to the Chicago Bears. He then rejected the car, so the Chevy dealer is stuck with it. I got the service record from a friend who works at another MB dealer - it has only seen an MB dealer once in 4 years and has never had a full service A or B. That is a red flag. Dealer also won’t come down on price, so I think it’s a pass. Here is the link again to that car
Look forward to your delivery and hope to see more pictures when you take delivery, congrats again on getting a V8 RWD beast that keeps on getting rarer and rarer.
Forgot to ask, did you test drive one like ever before or you were like alright this is it and you know you would want it?
I have always wanted a true AMG and the new cars ain’t it. I have not driven this era of a C63, but I’ve driven old AMGs when I worked as a lotman at an MB dealership 25 years ago.
My last car was a 2020 C43 (had it for three years). I loved that car and likely should have bought that. Live and learn. I need a car again and figured I might as well go for the 63! That said, it will be a new experience in terms of power and the RWD.
I have a slight concern on how loud the interior will be from the exhaust but it sounds like it shouldn’t be bad when in Comfort mode. I have some flashbacks to the 90s of idiot friends and their modded out ricers and how loud they were inside the car. I assume that won’t be an issue here!
I have always wanted a true AMG and the new cars ain’t it. I have not driven this era of a C63, but I’ve driven old AMGs when I worked as a lotman at an MB dealership 25 years ago.
My last car was a 2020 C43 (had it for three years). I loved that car and likely should have bought that. Live and learn. I need a car again and figured I might as well go for the 63! That said, it will be a new experience in terms of power and the RWD.
I have a slight concern on how loud the interior will be from the exhaust but it sounds like it shouldn’t be bad when in Comfort mode. I have some flashbacks to the 90s of idiot friends and their modded out ricers and how loud they were inside the car. I assume that won’t be an issue here!
Haha : ) if the C 43 didn't go you wouldn't had get a chance to buy the C 63 S, real AMG like you mentioned, different beast altogether. Staying true to its roots.
As for exhaust note, that is the beauty thing of AMGs, dual personality. Gentleman in a suit with a flip of a button. The facelift also have the very nice 9-stage traffic control that forum member superswiss goes in depth on explaining. Let me see if I can find his thread.
C 43 is a car that you want when you find the C 300 too slow. C 63 S on the other hand is for those who are serious about performance and fun.
Keep in mind, I said this despite myself still having a C 43. I live in Canada and back then (2017) when I purchased this new, I needed (or felt more confident with) 4MATIC, as it snows like 3 seasons here and I don't like the idea of garage queens : )
I have always wanted a true AMG and the new cars ain’t it. I have not driven this era of a C63, but I’ve driven old AMGs when I worked as a lotman at an MB dealership 25 years ago.
My last car was a 2020 C43 (had it for three years). I loved that car and likely should have bought that. Live and learn. I need a car again and figured I might as well go for the 63! That said, it will be a new experience in terms of power and the RWD.
I have a slight concern on how loud the interior will be from the exhaust but it sounds like it shouldn’t be bad when in Comfort mode. I have some flashbacks to the 90s of idiot friends and their modded out ricers and how loud they were inside the car. I assume that won’t be an issue here!
I assume those ricers you mentioned weren't a Mercedes, correct? Mercedes is a luxury car, you get refinement and interior sound dampening/insulation so you can't quite compare it to those ricers you mentioned : ) not apples to apples.
Haha : ) if the C 43 didn't go you wouldn't had get a chance to buy the C 63 S, real AMG like you mentioned, different beast altogether. Staying true to its roots.
As for exhaust note, that is the beauty thing of AMGs, dual personality. Gentleman in a suit with a flip of a button. The facelift also have the very nice 9-stage traffic control that forum member superswiss goes in depth on explaining. Let me see if I can find his thread.
C 43 is a car that you want when you find the C 300 too slow. C 63 S on the other hand is for those who are serious about performance and fun.
Keep in mind, I said this despite myself still having a C 43. I live in Canada and back then (2017) when I purchased this new, I needed (or felt more confident with) 4MATIC, as it snows like 3 seasons here and I don't like the idea of garage queens : )
Traffic control
Sorry I mean traction control, maybe when you drive pass traffic, they stop to see what just passed them, so basically it does control traffic/clear it, they give their way
haha. I basically plan to drive this car rather conservatively relative to others on here. I don’t plan to be doing skids. I’ll definitely need a tutorial - in layman’s - terms for the different modes.
What is the “elderly mom” mode? Is that just comfort? My mom is coming with me and we are working a road trip out of it. I also plan to store the car with her - and away from garages in NYC - so the car doesn’t get damaged
Haha : ) if the C 43 didn't go you wouldn't had get a chance to buy the C 63 S, real AMG like you mentioned, different beast altogether. Staying true to its roots.
As for exhaust note, that is the beauty thing of AMGs, dual personality. Gentleman in a suit with a flip of a button. The facelift also have the very nice 9-stage traffic control that forum member superswiss goes in depth on explaining. Let me see if I can find his thread.
C 43 is a car that you want when you find the C 300 too slow. C 63 S on the other hand is for those who are serious about performance and fun.
Keep in mind, I said this despite myself still having a C 43. I live in Canada and back then (2017) when I purchased this new, I needed (or felt more confident with) 4MATIC, as it snows like 3 seasons here and I don't like the idea of garage queens : )
do you have a 43 or 63? The 43 is definitely the most practical car, especially with winters. Winters in the NY area aren’t so bad, so I think I can make it work with the 63. When it snows, I’ll just leave this car in the garage
haha. I basically plan to drive this car rather conservatively relative to others on here. I don’t plan to be doing skids. I’ll definitely need a tutorial - in layman’s - terms for the different modes.
What is the “elderly mom” mode? Is that just comfort? My mom is coming with me and we are working a road trip out of it. I also plan to store the car with her - and away from garages in NYC - so the car doesn’t get damaged
pick up is scheduled for next Wednesday!
I see those were links to some of my posts. There's too much to pack into a single post. To be frank if you plan to drive this car conservatively, then you might wanna stick with a C43 or even a C300. You are not getting your money's worth. I don't mean you have to go drifting and such on public roads, but these things don't come fully alive until you start driving it in Sport+ and/or Race mode and start dialing down ESP to at least ESP Sport. The 2019+ models have a 9-stage traction control system, so you turn ESP off fully and then you can choose the level of traction control you want between 1 and 9. That's what I was talking about in that snow drifting post. Even if you don't use this to drift, it can help you get around in the snow as you can fine tune traction control.
There's a whole slew of adjustability in this car. It's sort of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Yes, the mom mode is Comfort. There's one more mode below Comfort in the 2019+ models called Slippery. You guessed it for what that is. It reduces engine torque and makes the throttle less sensitive, so you are less likely to spin the wheels when the roads get slippery. But driving this car around only in Comfort mode would be sad. You'll be missing out on what a C63 is about. I highly recommend you attend one of the AMG Experience events (link below). When buying a brand new 63 it includes a complementary AMG Experience day. It's a great experience and you really learn what these cars are capable of and you learn the limits in a safe environment. Well worth it even if you have to pay for the day since you are buying used.
It is somewhat sad that many people buy these cars and then do mundane commuter traffic type driving. These cars are so much more. If that's all the kind of driving you plan to do, then a 63 is not worth it over a 43. Yes, you get the V8 rumble, but you also get a stiffer ride and more NVH, for essentially nothing in return unless you start opening this thing up in the sport and race modes.
haha. I basically plan to drive this car rather conservatively relative to others on here. I don’t plan to be doing skids. I’ll definitely need a tutorial - in layman’s - terms for the different modes.
What is the “elderly mom” mode? Is that just comfort? My mom is coming with me and we are working a road trip out of it. I also plan to store the car with her - and away from garages in NYC - so the car doesn’t get damaged
pick up is scheduled for next Wednesday!
You could always ask in those threads for clarifications : )
nice, Wednesday is not a long time from now at all! Don't let it keep you awake at night though, time goes slower that way (personal experience).
do you have a 43 or 63? The 43 is definitely the most practical car, especially with winters. Winters in the NY area aren’t so bad, so I think I can make it work with the 63. When it snows, I’ll just leave this car in the garage
I have a 43, 63 at least the V8 RWD C 63 S W/S/C205 gen doesn't quite work for my usage. The new C 63 S E Performance gets 4MATIC but you get half the cylinders and half the fun.
I see those were links to some of my posts. There's too much to pack into a single post. To be frank if you plan to drive this car conservatively, then you might wanna stick with a C43 or even a C300. You are not getting your money's worth. I don't mean you have to go drifting and such on public roads, but these things don't come fully alive until you start driving it in Sport+ and/or Race mode and start dialing down ESP to at least ESP Sport. The 2019+ models have a 9-stage traction control system, so you turn ESP off fully and then you can choose the level of traction control you want between 1 and 9. That's what I was talking about in that snow drifting post. Even if you don't use this to drift, it can help you get around in the snow as you can fine tune traction control.
There's a whole slew of adjustability in this car. It's sort of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Yes, the mom mode is Comfort. There's one more mode below Comfort in the 2019+ models called Slippery. You guessed it for what that is. It reduces engine torque and makes the throttle less sensitive, so you are less likely to spin the wheels when the roads get slippery. But driving this car around only in Comfort mode would be sad. You'll be missing out on what a C63 is about. I highly recommend you attend one of the AMG Experience events (link below). When buying a brand new 63 it includes a complementary AMG Experience day. It's a great experience and you really learn what these cars are capable of and you learn the limits in a safe environment. Well worth it even if you have to pay for the day since you are buying used.
It is somewhat sad that many people buy these cars and then do mundane commuter traffic type driving. These cars are so much more. If that's all the kind of driving you plan to do, then a 63 is not worth it over a 43. Yes, you get the V8 rumble, but you also get a stiffer ride and more NVH, for essentially nothing in return unless you start opening this thing up in the sport and race modes.
Ya OP should do Italian tune-ups, these vehicles love to exercise, perhaps OP can start slow by doing manual shifting and get comfortable with the vehicle, you never know, OP might end up tracking it in no time once the confidence is built. Baby steps.
do you have a 43 or 63? The 43 is definitely the most practical car, especially with winters. Winters in the NY area aren’t so bad, so I think I can make it work with the 63. When it snows, I’ll just leave this car in the garage
I also live in the nyc area. If you decide to drive in winter conditions 40 degree or below even if the roads are clear of snow or ice you will need to get Winter tires.
I have my 2019 C63s coupe since new and swap out my summer tires to winter tires usually early/mid December then back to summer performance tires in march. I keep the same rims. AMG Forged Cross Spoke wheels in Black. Staggered F 255/35/19 and R 285/30/20.
I never had any issues with some moderate snow and ice but concerning is using the car in freezing cold weather with summer tires.
Here are the new Michelin Pilot Alpin 5 snow tires I installed this this year. They were much better, I felt than the Pirelli Sottozero 3. A lot less bulky looking and smoother during driving conditions. As you can see by photos.
Currenty I use the car 2-3 times a week.
* If you plan to purchase a Winter tire set up do so by ordering beginning of October as they do sell out quickly esp with my set up.
Ordered from Tire Rack about $1,900.00.
Good luck with the car.
Ya OP should do Italian tune-ups, these vehicles love to exercise, perhaps OP can start slow by doing manual shifting and get comfortable with the vehicle, you never know, OP might end up tracking it in no time once the confidence is built. Baby steps.
Yeah, driving in manual mode is another whole game as well. As you probably remember, I mostly drive mine in manual mode, especially when driving spirited. It's still IMO the only way to fully experience this machine, but it requires an understanding of shifting gears. The automatic modes are not bad, but it's not hard to catch them in an untimely shift and such compared to being in full control of the gears and be able to hold gears, short shift etc. as the situation demands. It's next level driving really.
If OP has never even driven a 63, I would highly recommend to first go for a test drive. His elderly mom may not enjoy it if the roads are anything but smooth. NY is not known for good roads, just saying. The transmission is also at a different level given that it uses a clutch instead of a torque converter and requires thought with the throttle input to keep things smooth.
I also live in the nyc area. If you decide to drive in winter conditions 40 degree or below even if the roads are clear of snow or ice you will need to get Winter tires.
I have my 2019 C63s coupe since new and swap out my summer tires to winter tires usually early/mid December then back to summer performance tires in march. I keep the same rims. AMG Forged Cross Spoke wheels in Black. Staggered F 255/35/19 and R 285/30/20.
I never had any issues with some moderate snow and ice but concerning is using the car in freezing cold weather with summer tires.
Here are the new Michelin Pilot Alpin 5 snow tires I installed this this year. They were much better, I felt than the Pirelli Sottozero 3. A lot less bulky looking and smoother during driving conditions. As you can see by photos.
Currenty I use the car 2-3 times a week.
* If you plan to purchase a Winter tire set up do so by ordering beginning of October as they do sell out quickly esp with my set up.
Ordered from Tire Rack about $1,900.00.
Good luck with the car.
Thank you for this. Super helpful. Are winter tires a must if taking the car out on a cold day but the roads are bone dry? I work 12-14 hour days and don’t need a car to commute to work. This car is really going to be for the weekend
I see those were links to some of my posts. There's too much to pack into a single post. To be frank if you plan to drive this car conservatively, then you might wanna stick with a C43 or even a C300. You are not getting your money's worth. I don't mean you have to go drifting and such on public roads, but these things don't come fully alive until you start driving it in Sport+ and/or Race mode and start dialing down ESP to at least ESP Sport. The 2019+ models have a 9-stage traction control system, so you turn ESP off fully and then you can choose the level of traction control you want between 1 and 9. That's what I was talking about in that snow drifting post. Even if you don't use this to drift, it can help you get around in the snow as you can fine tune traction control.
There's a whole slew of adjustability in this car. It's sort of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Yes, the mom mode is Comfort. There's one more mode below Comfort in the 2019+ models called Slippery. You guessed it for what that is. It reduces engine torque and makes the throttle less sensitive, so you are less likely to spin the wheels when the roads get slippery. But driving this car around only in Comfort mode would be sad. You'll be missing out on what a C63 is about. I highly recommend you attend one of the AMG Experience events (link below). When buying a brand new 63 it includes a complementary AMG Experience day. It's a great experience and you really learn what these cars are capable of and you learn the limits in a safe environment. Well worth it even if you have to pay for the day since you are buying used.
It is somewhat sad that many people buy these cars and then do mundane commuter traffic type driving. These cars are so much more. If that's all the kind of driving you plan to do, then a 63 is not worth it over a 43. Yes, you get the V8 rumble, but you also get a stiffer ride and more NVH, for essentially nothing in return unless you start opening this thing up in the sport and race modes.
thank you very much for the thoughtful note here. You’re right - a C43 is more practical and why I kick myself for not buying my old one, which I babied. My need for car has increased so I figured I might as well get a good condition C63 while I still can. If it turns out to be the wrong car, I can always sell it.
I probably sound like a wimp because I want to get a good feel and build confidence with how to operate the machine.
The amg driving class is a great idea. I will look into it - perhaps a good vacation idea
thank you very much for the thoughtful note here. You’re right - a C43 is more practical and why I kick myself for not buying my old one, which I babied. My need for car has increased so I figured I might as well get a good condition C63 while I still can. If it turns out to be the wrong car, I can always sell it.
I probably sound like a wimp because I want to get a good feel and build confidence with how to operate the machine.
The amg driving class is a great idea. I will look into it - perhaps a good vacation idea
Yeah, driving in manual mode is another whole game as well. As you probably remember, I mostly drive mine in manual mode, especially when driving spirited. It's still IMO the only way to fully experience this machine, but it requires an understanding of shifting gears. The automatic modes are not bad, but it's not hard to catch them in an untimely shift and such compared to being in full control of the gears and be able to hold gears, short shift etc. as the situation demands. It's next level driving really.
If OP has never even driven a 63, I would highly recommend to first go for a test drive. His elderly mom may not enjoy it if the roads are anything but smooth. NY is not known for good roads, just saying. The transmission is also at a different level given that it uses a clutch instead of a torque converter and requires thought with the throttle input to keep things smooth.
Agree, I mean the computer can't really read our minds, when we give exact inputs to the car, then will it know what we really wanted to do.
@jsloan01 i might be late here as it seems you moved forward with the car, but should not matter, enjoy your car if you got it and congrats.
1) drivers assistance package - an absolute must have imo. I live in LA and rarely use it for its autonomous features, but when I do it’s a huge pleasure and convenience. The value I see every time I drive are the safety features that prevent the car from getting into accidents (your blunder or not) which comes with the package. Besides its utility for the driver, the package significantly modernizes the car and resale value is that much better. When I was shopping cars without the package and brought it up, every salesman’s face showed weakness. They know people want the package and you definitely can leverage concessions if the car is without it. Basically a loaded c63 is future proof.
2) don’t fall in love too much with CPO status. Dealers have to pay Mercedes thousands to CPO the car. Basically CPO means if a car has a clean history and is not cosmetically beat, the dealer will take the risk and make the investment to CPO the car so they can sell it for much more. They also get the returns on when you do come in for warranty work, they can sell you on wear and tear items so they create a higher LTV from you as a customer. Mercedes takes the risk of paying for warranty repairs, but that is offset on the money they made from the dealer as well as the event that nothing goes wrong. Though I’ll say the marketing behind the CPO is strong. Whether it’s superficial or not, it effectively creates “peace of mind” which alone can make a buyer buy despite any other shortcoming, like a missing option, and especially on cars like amgs where forums are littered with fear and problems lol.
3) known concerns - law of attraction. Talk about and look for problems and you’ll certainly find them. Enjoy your car and life in good health my brother!
2) don’t fall in love too much with CPO status. Dealers have to pay Mercedes thousands to CPO the car. Basically CPO means if a car has a clean history and is not cosmetically beat, the dealer will take the risk and make the investment to CPO the car so they can sell it for much more.
Agreed, hard to find any used vehicles at the OEM dealer that haven't all been CPO'd. There are huge invectives from the OEM's to push CPO specific inventory... which dealers then just make all inventory CPO...
@jsloan01 i might be late here as it seems you moved forward with the car, but should not matter, enjoy your car if you got it and congrats.
1) drivers assistance package - an absolute must have imo. I live in LA and rarely use it for its autonomous features, but when I do it’s a huge pleasure and convenience. The value I see every time I drive are the safety features that prevent the car from getting into accidents (your blunder or not) which comes with the package. Besides its utility for the driver, the package significantly modernizes the car and resale value is that much better. When I was shopping cars without the package and brought it up, every salesman’s face showed weakness. They know people want the package and you definitely can leverage concessions if the car is without it. Basically a loaded c63 is future proof.
2) don’t fall in love too much with CPO status. Dealers have to pay Mercedes thousands to CPO the car. Basically CPO means if a car has a clean history and is not cosmetically beat, the dealer will take the risk and make the investment to CPO the car so they can sell it for much more. They also get the returns on when you do come in for warranty work, they can sell you on wear and tear items so they create a higher LTV from you as a customer. Mercedes takes the risk of paying for warranty repairs, but that is offset on the money they made from the dealer as well as the event that nothing goes wrong. Though I’ll say the marketing behind the CPO is strong. Whether it’s superficial or not, it effectively creates “peace of mind” which alone can make a buyer buy despite any other shortcoming, like a missing option, and especially on cars like amgs where forums are littered with fear and problems lol.
3) known concerns - law of attraction. Talk about and look for problems and you’ll certainly find them. Enjoy your car and life in good health my brother!
Wish someone has a comparison of extended warranty vs star certified/cpo warranty to see what is covered and not covered.
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