Advice: Buying a 2021 C63 AMG S
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This is mainly for the E 63 S but a good amount of information that does apply to the C 63 S as well:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...fixes-diy.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...fixes-diy.html
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This is mainly for the E 63 S but a good amount of information that does apply to the C 63 S as well:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...fixes-diy.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...fixes-diy.html
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Thanks all for the comments. I must admit, I am getting a bit of cold feet on the specific C63 S that I found.
whar do folks this of this car that posted on Autotrader? Not sure how a 4 year old car has only 4k miles. And it’s at a Chevy dealership. Would folks consider this or a hard no because it’s a Chevy dealer? Carfax is clean
http://atcm.co/S2PVDP/2C8E65A0.
whar do folks this of this car that posted on Autotrader? Not sure how a 4 year old car has only 4k miles. And it’s at a Chevy dealership. Would folks consider this or a hard no because it’s a Chevy dealer? Carfax is clean
http://atcm.co/S2PVDP/2C8E65A0.
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Problem is there is no permanent fix (apparently) so eventually you will have to repair it down the road, so I guess the other forum member's post is to let you know this is something you need to set aside funds for.
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Don't trust CPO, not all dealerships go through the process, I seen dealerships simply checking all the boxes without actually inspecting anything, at least you get the very limited CPO warranty at least.
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Thanks all for the comments. I must admit, I am getting a bit of cold feet on the specific C63 S that I found.
whar do folks this of this car that posted on Autotrader? Not sure how a 4 year old car has only 4k miles. And it’s at a Chevy dealership. Would folks consider this or a hard no because it’s a Chevy dealer? Carfax is clean
http://atcm.co/S2PVDP/2C8E65A0.
whar do folks this of this car that posted on Autotrader? Not sure how a 4 year old car has only 4k miles. And it’s at a Chevy dealership. Would folks consider this or a hard no because it’s a Chevy dealer? Carfax is clean
http://atcm.co/S2PVDP/2C8E65A0.
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Thanks all for the comments. I must admit, I am getting a bit of cold feet on the specific C63 S that I found.
whar do folks this of this car that posted on Autotrader? Not sure how a 4 year old car has only 4k miles. And it’s at a Chevy dealership. Would folks consider this or a hard no because it’s a Chevy dealer? Carfax is clean
http://atcm.co/S2PVDP/2C8E65A0.
whar do folks this of this car that posted on Autotrader? Not sure how a 4 year old car has only 4k miles. And it’s at a Chevy dealership. Would folks consider this or a hard no because it’s a Chevy dealer? Carfax is clean
http://atcm.co/S2PVDP/2C8E65A0.
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Attached are some photos of the car I am considering
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...7a9c7b35a.jpeg
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It mainly affects the M177 (used in both C and E) and M178 (used mainly in the AMG GT) engines, it technically should affect the M176 (used mainly in the S and G-wagen, the GLE 580, etc. ) in the S-Class as well but they use different oil separator and it is less common. Matter of fact, the good news is it is less common on the C 63 S than the E 63 S just that it still happens.
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Here, this might help: https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-c63s-...ml#post9064655
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what do you think of the black rims? At first, I thought this looked amazing but now I am wondering if I like the silver more. That said, the black rims with this paint color is a nice combo!
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Please don't let my comment scare you away, you should also check out that low mileage one too. You never know, you might had find yourself a (rare?) gem, only one way to find out...
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Here, this might help: https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-c63s-...ml#post9064655
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Wheels are personal preference but being an AMG, the darken ones look better in my opinion. The silver is usually used on regular Mercedes-Benz cars and I mean chrome is usually used to express/signify luxury (in a sense at least). The darken look is very sporty, again just my opinion. Congrats on the new V8 RWD beast.
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The issue primarily appears to affect the M177 LS2 engine variant which is found in the E63. The C63 has the LS1 variant. The LS2 has a redesigned OVS due to packaging constraints and that appears to be the source of the issue. There are very few C63 with this issue, but one theory I've floated out there is that the issue could partly be caused by lack of using the engine for what it was designed for. Driving mainly in commuter traffic at low rpm, lots of short distance driving that doesn't fully warm up the engine etc. could contribute to the oil clogging up the OVS. This speaks to the concern of a low mileage car. It likely hasn't been driven properly and mostly sat around. Who knows if the original owner even properly broke in the engine. With a well maintained C63 that's been driven properly and regularly gets to see a redline to keep the engine healthy, the RMS issue doesn't concern me at all. I think there were two or so on this forum in all the years, whereas E63S, GT63S and G63 owners seem to be widely affected. As said, they all have the LS2 engine variant.
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The issue primarily appears to affect the M177 LS2 engine variant which is found in the E63. The C63 has the LS1 variant. The LS2 has a redesigned OVS due to packaging constraints and that appears to be the source of the issue. There are very few C63 with this issue, but one theory I've floated out there is that the issue could partly be caused by lack of using the engine for what it was designed for. Driving mainly in commuter traffic at low rpm, lots of short distance driving that doesn't fully warm up the engine etc. could contribute to the oil clogging up the OVS. This speaks to the concern of a low mileage car. It likely hasn't been driven properly and mostly sat around. Who knows if the original owner even properly broke in the engine. With a well maintained C63 that's been driven properly and regularly gets to see a redline to keep the engine healthy, the RMS issue doesn't concern me at all. I think there were two or so on this forum in all the years, whereas E63S, GT63S and G63 owners seem to be widely affected. As said, they all have the LS2 engine variant.
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The issue primarily appears to affect the M177 LS2 engine variant which is found in the E63. The C63 has the LS1 variant. The LS2 has a redesigned OVS due to packaging constraints and that appears to be the source of the issue. There are very few C63 with this issue, but one theory I've floated out there is that the issue could partly be caused by lack of using the engine for what it was designed for. Driving mainly in commuter traffic at low rpm, lots of short distance driving that doesn't fully warm up the engine etc. could contribute to the oil clogging up the OVS. This speaks to the concern of a low mileage car. It likely hasn't been driven properly and mostly sat around. Who knows if the original owner even properly broke in the engine. With a well maintained C63 that's been driven properly and regularly gets to see a redline to keep the engine healthy, the RMS issue doesn't concern me at all. I think there were two or so on this forum in all the years, whereas E63S, GT63S and G63 owners seem to be widely affected. As said, they all have the LS2 engine variant.
What a response! I think I am pulling the trigger on the one with 33k miles. Wish it was 10k less, but I love just about everything else with the car. And it’s one of the only CPOs in the country (that is an S, sedan, and the right color)
I am sure I’ll have more questions as the weeks and months roll on. Take delivery next week. Look forward to contributing to this forum again after being absent for 10 years!
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What a response! I think I am pulling the trigger on the one with 33k miles. Wish it was 10k less, but I love just about everything else with the car. And it’s one of the only CPOs in the country (that is an S, sedan, and the right color)
I am sure I’ll have more questions as the weeks and months roll on. Take delivery next week. Look forward to contributing to this forum again after being absent for 10 years!
I am sure I’ll have more questions as the weeks and months roll on. Take delivery next week. Look forward to contributing to this forum again after being absent for 10 years!
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What a response! I think I am pulling the trigger on the one with 33k miles. Wish it was 10k less, but I love just about everything else with the car. And it’s one of the only CPOs in the country (that is an S, sedan, and the right color)
I am sure I’ll have more questions as the weeks and months roll on. Take delivery next week. Look forward to contributing to this forum again after being absent for 10 years!
I am sure I’ll have more questions as the weeks and months roll on. Take delivery next week. Look forward to contributing to this forum again after being absent for 10 years!
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I called the Chevy dealer in Michigan that has the 4k one. They bought the car at an auction for a Michigan football player who was just drafted to the Chicago Bears. He then rejected the car, so the Chevy dealer is stuck with it. I got the service record from a friend who works at another MB dealer - it has only seen an MB dealer once in 4 years and has never had a full service A or B. That is a red flag. Dealer also won’t come down on price, so I think it’s a pass. Here is the link again to that car
http://atcm.co/S2PVDP/2C8E65A0.
