It is a good spec. What a shame. I guess tell them you want to do a PPI and go from there so this is a cpo?

 

This one is the CPO. I brought it up a PPI and they said they did their 160 point inspection and they fixed whatever was needed. They did a Service B (40k / 4 yr maintenance), new rear tires, and new brake pads/rotors all around

Appreciate all your help, man. Tough one. Car isn’t perfect - nothing is - but there are few 2021 63 S sedans out there

 

Of course they say that, if you do insist to do a PPI, do not do it at the same dealership, as they will charge you for the PPI and not do anything as they keep insisting they did their inspection during the CPO. There is no proof they actually did it, that is the problem with CPOs. At least with non CPOs, there is proof that clearly nothing is done. You do get that CPO warranty although very limited, and you do pay a higher price than a non CPO.

 

You're very welcome, happy to help, sadly rough road so far for you, hope you see the light in the tunnel soon.

 

An update: I went down to Nashville to buy the car. Despite all the photos, videos, and assurances from the dealer, there was still damage (dents, stone chips, curbed wheel) that weren’t disclosed. Left empty handed. Waste of a day

I might just buy a new car despite the lame interior screen and 4 cylinder - just seems impossible to find a well maintained 2021 c63 sedan

 

Well that sucks. I'm sorry you went through that man! From reading some reviews of the E version, I'd say that before you settle on that path, just make sure you test drive it and like it.

 

I have a hunch that you'd likely have much better luck finding a mint condition coupe, simply due to the difference in demographics. Sedan owners tend to be more utilitarian. They might have kids that bang about the car and have to take them to soccer practice and such where other kids fling doors open and into other cars. If you lift up the seats, you'll probably find old cheerios that found their ways through the cracks. Not to mention the distractions from the kids in the back seat leading to potentially curbing a wheel and such. Coupe owners on the other hand tend to be single, or married w/o children and view their cars as more than just transportation. They live a very different lifestyle. They don't have yelling kids in the car distracting them and they don't hang around in places with a bunch of messy kids. With the larger doors of the coupe, we also tend to park far away from other cars with plenty of space to open the doors resulting in much less of a chance to get a door ding. For example, I tend to seek out end spots and rather walk across the entire parking lot than parking close to the store entrances where all the careless people, who are in a rush, park. I have time and don't need to lug along my kids. We have friends with kids, and especially when they were smaller, whenever we hung out with them somewhere I never took the nice car.

 

Brilliant post and dead on, man. You’re 100% right. I have been eyeing coupes but haven’t seen anything yet. The final edition is looks great (a few on the market) but I don’t want to care for a matte car (I find waxing a car to be quite therapeutic)

 

Other red flags were a passenger headlamp that had a lot of condensation and fog on the inside (not a good sign) and a telescopic steering wheel that malfunctioned and was stuck in a low position. Not sure how this car made it into the CPO category

 

There are other MB V8s to consider, you don't have to get a C 63 S although C 63 S is a good balance and a good package.

 

Once upon a time, MB decided that condensation was normal and acceptable, they later on removed it from the operator's manual.

 

True. I’ve just always been drawn to the C Class. It strikes the right balance (for me) of size for the driver and compactness for east coast driving.

i think I’ll look this summer for a great 2021-2023 c63. If I can’t find it, I’ll try one of these new designs (but perhaps on a lease)

 

Forum member superswiss' coupe suggestion is a good idea especially in the way he explained it makes a lot of sense but my understanding is that you are a sedan person and prefer sedan but looks like you are still relatively flexible. So that is good then look at coupe 205 63 S first then maybe if you really want a new car but don't mind not a V8, the CLE 53 or is that still too big for you? If you are going to get the C 63 S E Performance might as well get a CLA 45, unless you really need (want?) that extra power, since you already lost the V6 (from the C 43 you had) and the V8 that you were considering.

 

This is so true couldn't agree more. Sedan C 63 S is for small family who wants some performance. While the coupe is for those who chase a certain lifestyle and very likely a weekend car and very possible are car enthusiasts that takes care of their toys.

 

not to mention you lose the complexity of the E Performance drivetrain, the weight, the transmission quirks, the price tag, the depreciation and other software problems if you get the CLA 45, same engine just no E Performance stuff.

 

No offense to the CLA folks, but that car has never been my bag. Always struck me as too entry and not a true MB. The C class has been the baby S class for a long time, but I think became its own entity - in a good way - in the W204 and W205

I am a sedan guy, so hopefully one comes up. I am calling all my local MB dealers to put me on a list if a pristine sedans that comes through.

 

Also, probably won’t travel for a used car again. That was dumb and a huge waste of time. Travel costs weren’t bad with lots of unused flight miles

 

Fair enough, I understand you don't want a CLA and the vehicle (in its tier) is the main deal breaking and not the engine.

 

I see, well I at least hope you could had enjoyed the visit to that state? no point of interest that you stayed for?

 

not really. I had too much **** to do with work, so I had to cut my losses and move on. Hopefully I can join your esteemed ranks by this summer!

 

what are the transmission quirks? If I did get a new w206, do you think it’s just worth leasing given how much folks on here hate it? MB Manhattan has new ones from model year 2024! Maybe I can get a good value

 

Very much agree with that. I chose the C63S Coupe over the GT 2-door for example, because I found it to be more usable as an actual grand tourer. It's got usable backseats to take out friends or family to dinner and enough trunk space for luggage and gear. For example, I did a 2 months European Delivery driving almost 7000 miles across Europe after picking it up at the factory in Germany. Two checked luggage in the trunk and room to spare. Just what a grand tourer is supposed to be and plenty of power to blast down the German Autobahn at triple digit speeds. Even the current GT63 Coupe while more of a true grand tourer just doesn't really hit the mark. The rear seats are largely a waste, so while it's less of a track car now, I still much prefer the C205.

I've driven the A45S several times at AMG Experience events. Same powertrain and effectively the same car. While a neat hot hatch, it is primarily FWD, so it has more in common with a VW Golf R, not that that is a bad car, then with the rest of the Mercedes lineup. I didn't like how it understeered and it has turbo lag the size of Texas. That's something the W206 C63 S E masks with the help of the electric motor at least. If I lived in Europe again, the A45S would be a contender. A compact hatch is just so much easier and more fun to drive around on the small city roads and park it in the small parking structures. Even the C63 Coupe felt a bit like an elephant in the porcelain store outside of the Autobahn. It's actually more fun to drive on the wider roads here in the USA than the narrow roads in Europe. I pretty much always rent a Golf or similar when I visit Europe. It ends up being more fun to zip around, especially since I always get one with a manual transmission if available. With the C63 outside of the German Autobahn I always had to hold back. Even 500 hp is too much with speed cameras around every corner.

 

Well, it is a MCT so you do need to drive it like a manual otherwise it will be very jerky or uncomfortable.

 

Test drive! I can't stress it enough, test drive and make sure you really want the E Performance vehicle.

 

We should clarify. AMG seems to struggle adapting the MCT to the 4-cylinder. This is the first time it was paired to something else than a V8. I love the 9-speed MCT in the FL C63, but I hated the MCT in the W206 C63 SE. It is very poorly implemented there, IMO. There are also known issues in the W206 C43 with it that AMG has acknowledged since the car was revealed, but I believe owners are still waiting for a software fix. The MCT was originally specifically developed for the V8 engines, and it seems it doesn't get along too well with the M139. The A/CLA 45 use a transverse dual clutch which seems the better fit for this engine.