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Sadly yes, they are taking a bit more time than we wanted, the launch of the C 63 S E Performance was hugely delayed then the software update also came late, now after those software updates, it is still not fixed with no ETA when the next software update or attempt is to be released/made. Originally Posted by superswiss
We should clarify. AMG seems to struggle adapting the MCT to the 4-cylinder. This is the first time it was paired to something else than a V8. I love the 9-speed MCT in the FL C63, but I hated the MCT in the W206 C63 SE. It is very poorly implemented there, IMO. There are also known issues in the W206 C43 with it that AMG has acknowledged since the car was revealed, but I believe owners are still waiting for a software fix. The MCT was originally specifically developed for the V8 engines, and it seems it doesn't get along too well with the M139. The A/CLA 45 use a transverse dual clutch which seems the better fit for this engine.
I can't remember if I asked this before but did they ever considered/planned/announced they will pair the MCT with the M256 and M256 M engine? Or because it is not hand built or fully designed by amg (only tuned) they won't?
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I can't remember if I asked this before but did they ever considered/planned/announced they will pair the MCT with the M256 and M256 M engine? Or because it is not hand built or fully designed by amg (only tuned) they won't?
There hasn't been an announcement, but I suppose never say never. The 53 models have the electric motor integrated into the transmission, which so far hasn't been done with the MCT. All the hybrid models that use the MCT use the P3 Hybrid system where the electric motor is separate from the transmission integrated into the rear axle differential and that setup has so far been exclusively for the 63 badge. Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Sadly yes, they are taking a bit more time than we wanted, the launch of the C 63 S E Performance was hugely delayed then the software update also came late, now after those software updates, it is still not fixed with no ETA when the next software update or attempt is to be released/made.I can't remember if I asked this before but did they ever considered/planned/announced they will pair the MCT with the M256 and M256 M engine? Or because it is not hand built or fully designed by amg (only tuned) they won't?
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Sounds like a major rework will have to be done if they to put that system in the MCT. Originally Posted by superswiss
There hasn't been an announcement, but I suppose never say never. The 53 models have the electric motor integrated into the transmission, which so far hasn't been done with the MCT. All the hybrid models that use the MCT use the P3 Hybrid system where the electric motor is separate from the transmission integrated into the rear axle differential and that setup has so far been exclusively for the 63 badge.
New C63-S on the market outside of Boston. 2023 coupe with <5k miles. It’s fully loaded. It’s a high price: $89k for a non-final edition. That said, it’s CPO, although not sure that does anything since there are 23 months left on the OEM warranty
https://www.mbob.com/used-Burlington...WJ8HB9PG127753
https://www.mbob.com/used-Burlington...WJ8HB9PG127753
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CPO still adds another 12 months to those 23 months, so that's a nice warranty period. Originally Posted by jsloan01
New C63-S on the market outside of Boston. 2023 coupe with <5k miles. It’s fully loaded. It’s a high price: $89k for a non-final edition. That said, it’s CPO, although not sure that does anything since there are 23 months left on the OEM warrantyhttps://www.mbob.com/used-Burlington...WJ8HB9PG127753
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Oh wow, that’s great. I thought it was concurrent. So I could buy the extended CPO and be covered for ~5 years? That would be a good outcomeOriginally Posted by superswiss
CPO still adds another 12 months to those 23 months, so that's a nice warranty period.
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Only problem with CPO warranty is that it is extremely limited, again I forgot what is the difference between the CPO (also called Star warranty) and new car warranty but at least the major things of the powertrain the engine and transmission is covered under CPO warranty. Originally Posted by jsloan01
Oh wow, that’s great. I thought it was concurrent. So I could buy the extended CPO and be covered for ~5 years? That would be a good outcome
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Do not buy extended CPO, buy extended warranty on the new car warranty as it covers more items than CPO.
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Oh really? I thought the extension on the factor warranty was more limited. Thank you for advising. Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Do not buy extended CPO, buy extended warranty on the new car warranty as it covers more items than CPO.
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I had a friend that bought a CPO lately, the dealership immediately offered extended warranty packages to extend on the new car warranty. They give them a list of items covered with cpo and non-cpo, it was a huge list, wish he kept a copy. Yes extended warranty is more limited than factory new car warranty but it still covers more than cpo, much more. Originally Posted by jsloan01
Oh really? I thought the extension on the factor warranty was more limited. Thank you for advising.
Obviously, we can argue the dealership is just trying to make money by selling warranties but the fact remains cpo warranty is very limited but the very big ticket items as mentioned is covered, maybe you can just get by with cpo after all. Or maybe you could also wait till near the end of the new car warranty then negotiate around, you don't have to make the decision now, not sure if that is a good idea though.
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Here is a brochure of extended limited warranty: https://www.mercedes-benz.ca/content...rochure_EN.pdf
https://www.mercedes-benz.ca/en/cpo#...d%20kilometres.
https://www.mercedes-benz.ca/en/cpo#...d%20kilometres.
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Should had gave you a mbusa link: https://www.mbusa.com/content/dam/mb...%2006.2019.pdf
https://www.mbusa.com/en/cpo
not sure why you can't find the covered items online, why is it such top secret
but the brief list mentioned is
https://www.mbusa.com/en/cpo
not sure why you can't find the covered items online, why is it such top secret

but the brief list mentioned is
- Engine Components
- Powertrain Components
- Battery state of health (EVs only)
- Suspension
- Brakes (excluding normal wear of discs and pads)
- Steering
- Electrical Systems
- Climate Control
- Audio and Navigation Systems
- Central Locking
- Convertible/Retractable Top Systems (if applicable)
- And more
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Friend replied to me and said he have a copy of the list of items SCW (star certified warranty) vs extended limited warranty.
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Remember, this is Canada though although should be similar to mbusa market.
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Welp, hope that helps, good luck with your continued search OP, please keep us posted.
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Obviously, we can argue the dealership is just trying to make money by selling warranties but the fact remains cpo warranty is very limited but the very big ticket items as mentioned is covered, maybe you can just get by with cpo after all. Or maybe you could also wait till near the end of the new car warranty then negotiate around, you don't have to make the decision now, not sure if that is a good idea though.
Yes, you can purchase a MB Extended Warranty right before the 4 year/ 50,000 miles expires. The options are 1 year, 2 years or 3 years. That's it.Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
I had a friend that bought a CPO lately, the dealership immediately offered extended warranty packages to extend on the new car warranty. They give them a list of items covered with cpo and non-cpo, it was a huge list, wish he kept a copy. Yes extended warranty is more limited than factory new car warranty but it still covers more than cpo, much more.Obviously, we can argue the dealership is just trying to make money by selling warranties but the fact remains cpo warranty is very limited but the very big ticket items as mentioned is covered, maybe you can just get by with cpo after all. Or maybe you could also wait till near the end of the new car warranty then negotiate around, you don't have to make the decision now, not sure if that is a good idea though.
In April 2023 I purchased the MB Extended Warranty for 2 year/75,000 miles. It's just expired. I now regret I didn't purchase the 3 year/75,000 miles. Peace of mind.
This warranty is transferable, if so desirable, to a private new owner.
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In April 2023 I purchased the MB Extended Warranty for 2 year/75,000 miles. It's just expired. I now regret I didn't purchase the 3 year/75,000 miles. Peace of mind.
This warranty is transferable, if so desirable, to a private new owner.
Vehicle is Reliable right? Might as well pocket the money you use with buying extended warranty and store it in a bank account and set it aside for any repairs that comes. Originally Posted by jj18
Yes, you can purchase a MB Extended Warranty right before the 4 year/ 50,000 miles expires. The options are 1 year, 2 years or 3 years. That's it.In April 2023 I purchased the MB Extended Warranty for 2 year/75,000 miles. It's just expired. I now regret I didn't purchase the 3 year/75,000 miles. Peace of mind.
This warranty is transferable, if so desirable, to a private new owner.
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Here is a great post on extended warranties: https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-c63s-...ml#post8023361
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Welp, hope that helps, good luck with your continued search OP, please keep us posted.
I am going to start negotiating on this 2023 coupe. I have to be in Boston in 3 weeks for work, so this could work out! 🤞
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I am going to start negotiating on this 2023 coupe. I have to be in Boston in 3 weeks for work, so this could work out! 🤞
You're most welcome! I am glad to hear that I was helpful. All the best with the search please feel free to always keep us posted.Originally Posted by jsloan01
thanks man. You deserve a drink or dinner for all the help here. I’ve learned so much about this purchase through my post. Truly gratefulI am going to start negotiating on this 2023 coupe. I have to be in Boston in 3 weeks for work, so this could work out! 🤞
Quick update here. After my Nashville failure, I thought a new vehicle would be best for me. I tested a well optioned new CLE 53 AMG. The exterior is beautiful. Then I got inside: it was a disappointment. The steering wheel controls are unintuitive (and I am relatively tech savvy) and sensitive. I also have large hands, so placing pressure for “up” often wouldn’t go up. I also didn’t enjoy the large screen and the nested menus. The “touch” control for the moonroof was also strange - I couldn’t’ figure out how to slide it up open vs. pop it open. I really tried to embrace it but just didn’t enjoy it. Not sure how you operate these features easily while driving.
I am back on the hunt for a 2021-2023 C63 W205 style. I found a new one with 18k miles with Drivers Assistance Package. Some minor wear and tear, but I think it can all be remedied. Hope to pull the trigger here soon!
I am back on the hunt for a 2021-2023 C63 W205 style. I found a new one with 18k miles with Drivers Assistance Package. Some minor wear and tear, but I think it can all be remedied. Hope to pull the trigger here soon!
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I am back on the hunt for a 2021-2023 C63 W205 style. I found a new one with 18k miles with Drivers Assistance Package. Some minor wear and tear, but I think it can all be remedied. Hope to pull the trigger here soon!
Yeah, I do like the CLE 53 and even the new GT 63 from a driving perspective, but like you, the interior ergonomics these days just put me off. I've had a few new loaners and drove new AMGs, so if I really had to, I could live with the capacitive buttons and the touchscreen, but I don't want to. All modern interiors kinda look the same now. A giant screen and digital instrument cluster, with no real unique character and capacitive buttons that don't work half the time or you trigger accidentally the other half of the time. Seems like they are all finally starting to go back to physical buttons, because customers largely hate it. I think it's all eventually coming back. Originally Posted by jsloan01
Quick update here. After my Nashville failure, I thought a new vehicle would be best for me. I tested a well optioned new CLE 53 AMG. The exterior is beautiful. Then I got inside: it was a disappointment. The steering wheel controls are unintuitive (and I am relatively tech savvy) and sensitive. I also have large hands, so placing pressure for “up” often wouldn’t go up. I also didn’t enjoy the large screen and the nested menus. The “touch” control for the moonroof was also strange - I couldn’t’ figure out how to slide it up open vs. pop it open. I really tried to embrace it but just didn’t enjoy it. Not sure how you operate these features easily while driving.I am back on the hunt for a 2021-2023 C63 W205 style. I found a new one with 18k miles with Drivers Assistance Package. Some minor wear and tear, but I think it can all be remedied. Hope to pull the trigger here soon!
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I am back on the hunt for a 2021-2023 C63 W205 style. I found a new one with 18k miles with Drivers Assistance Package. Some minor wear and tear, but I think it can all be remedied. Hope to pull the trigger here soon!
I too am shopping for a CLE 53 and still taking time to get used to the capacitive touch stuff, I thought it would be an easy fix and just retrofit the older style steering wheel with actual buttons but I think it is not as simple as it seems. Then there are also the capacitive touch seat heating/ventilation control on the door. So far, I have three vehicles on my shopping list, CLE 53, E 53 or the C 53 whenever that comes out, forum member superswiss kindly linked an article from a source saying they are bringing two more cylinders to the W206 lineup so that is good.Originally Posted by jsloan01
Quick update here. After my Nashville failure, I thought a new vehicle would be best for me. I tested a well optioned new CLE 53 AMG. The exterior is beautiful. Then I got inside: it was a disappointment. The steering wheel controls are unintuitive (and I am relatively tech savvy) and sensitive. I also have large hands, so placing pressure for “up” often wouldn’t go up. I also didn’t enjoy the large screen and the nested menus. The “touch” control for the moonroof was also strange - I couldn’t’ figure out how to slide it up open vs. pop it open. I really tried to embrace it but just didn’t enjoy it. Not sure how you operate these features easily while driving.I am back on the hunt for a 2021-2023 C63 W205 style. I found a new one with 18k miles with Drivers Assistance Package. Some minor wear and tear, but I think it can all be remedied. Hope to pull the trigger here soon!
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I hope you don't mind me sharing your very helpful thread and experience by linking it to this thread on the CLE 53, the C 63 S E Performance: https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-c43-a...ve-c63-se.htmlOriginally Posted by superswiss
Yeah, I do like the CLE 53 and even the new GT 63 from a driving perspective, but like you, the interior ergonomics these days just put me off. I've had a few new loaners and drove new AMGs, so if I really had to, I could live with the capacitive buttons and the touchscreen, but I don't want to. All modern interiors kinda look the same now. A giant screen and digital instrument cluster, with no real unique character and capacitive buttons that don't work half the time or you trigger accidentally the other half of the time. Seems like they are all finally starting to go back to physical buttons, because customers largely hate it. I think it's all eventually coming back.
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