young

are CLs discounted? marked up? or sold at MSRP?

if i were to walk in tomorrow, what kind of price should i expect? mbusa has it starting at $91k

this is hypothetical btw...

JamE55

young

Hypothetically speaking it would really depend on the CL500. Will it have some options with it or what?? I'm assuming around $95-100k+??

young

well, i will build one at MBUSA and let you know what options this is fun!

young

here's my summary from mbusa

<b><i>Your Summary

M.S.R.P. $91,415.00
Exterior Color (Metallic paints are standard for this model.)
Midnight Blue1 $0.00
Interior Color Java Leather $0.00
Wood Trims Chestnut Trim2 $0.00
Special Order $1,150.00

Options
Keyless Go details $995.00
Tire-Pressure Monitoring System details $615.00
Luxury Tax $1,646.10
Gas Guzzler Tax $1,000.00

Total $96,821.10 </i></b>

so you think, i should expect to pay the MSRP?

JamE55

Depends on your dealer? How good are you at haggling?? Here's the trick tell them what's the best they can do and then walk away i'm pretty sure they will say "wait hold on...let's make a deal". And that's when you let em have it!!

young

heh heh, i suck at haggling! but for $100k, i'm going to try pretty hard!!

JamE55

For around $100k hey i would too!!

awiner

Here is the info you requested for a 2002 CL500 ..


Invoice: $84,398
MSRP: $90,750

Destination Fee is $650


Options

CL2 Sport Package - Includes 18" x 8.5" AMG Monoblock wheels with P245/45YR18V tires in front, 18" x 9.5" AMG Monoblock wheels with P275/40YR18V tires in rear, sculpted front apron, side sills and rear apron.
Invoice/MSRP: $4,990

CL3 Comfort Package - Includes active ventilated front seats with ten electric fans and dynamic multicontour front seats with pneumatically adjustable side bolsters and lumbar support.
Invoice: $1,386 MSRP: $1,490

Distronic Adaptive Cruise Control - Includes radar system mounted in grille that monitors distance to the car ahead and uses up to 20 per cent of braking power to automatically maintain speed and following range.
Invoice: $2,674 MSRP: $2,875

Electronic Trunk Closer
Invoice: $428 MSRP: $460

Keyless Go - Includes credit card size transponder that will lock/unlock vehicle and start/stop engine without use of a key.
Invoice: $925 MSRP: $995

Navigation CD Collection for USA/Canada
Invoice: $130 MSRP: $140

Parktronic System - Includes audio/visual indicators on dash and rear cabin ceiling attached to radar sensors that monitor sound waves to detect objects in front and rear of vehicle during parking.
Invoice: $944 MSRP: $1,015

Special Order Charge - Includes one-time surcharge when any one or more of the following are ordered: Black Opal Metallic paint, Capri Blue Metallic paint, Bordeaux Red Metallic paint, Everest Green Metallic paint, Tectite Grey Metallic paint, Midnight Blue paint, Wedgewood Blue Metallic paint, Charcoal or Ash leather interior with chestnut wood trim and Java or Oyster leather interior with burl walnut wood trim. Invoice/MSRP: $1,000

Tire Pressure Monitoring System - Includes sensors to monitor the air pressure and temperature inside each tire with results displayed via in-dash message center.
Invoice: $572 MSRP: $615

designo Espresso Edition - Includes designo Mocha Black paint, Charcoal interior with designo Dark Brown Nappa leather and Auburn maple wood trim, Alcantara trim on pillars, visors and headliner and Charcoal floor mats with Dark Brown leather trim. REQUIRES CL3 Comfort Package and Parktronic.
Invoice/MSRP: $10,000

designo Silver Edition - Includes designo Silver paint, Charcoal interior with designo Silver Nappa leather and Charcoal maple wood trim, Alcantara trim on pillars, visors and headliner and Charcoal floor mats with leather trim. [IREQUIRES CL3 Comfort Package and Parktronic.
Invoice/MSRP: $10,000

JamE55

Amazing how those options stack up.

young

but what's another few grand on a car that costs $100k? right?

but i still don't want the distronic b/c i think adam mentioned that it covers the grille. and, i'm definitely not going to get CD based nav system... c'mon, give me the world on a DVD! (ok, i'd be happy w/ just N. America, but it still needs to be on 1 DVD, not a bunch of CDs).

but adam, my real question was did you pay full price when you got your car?

awiner

When I got my car back in early 2001, CL55's were going for as high as $50,000 - $60,000 above window for a USED car (Ala, Fletcher Jones). Most dealers marked their 55's up $20,000 - $30,000 over window. I searched for approx 7 months and finally found mine new for MSRP about 800 miles away at a dealer in another state.

Moral of this story is that you can always find a car at MSRP if you wait long enough and look all over the US for it. Only 300-350 CL55's are brought to the US each model year. Therefore, supply totally was outweighed by demand.

JamE55

Adam

How do these people justify/calculate their markup on USED car as much as $50-60k?? I mean why not $20-30k. Is it because it's a high end car or just the demand?

Mr. Xristo

The car is only considered used in the legal sense. If it has been titled more than once (i.e., more than one name on the title), they can legally sell the cars as used, and raise the price to whatever they want, even though the car has less then 100 miles on it.

MBUSA does not allow new cars to be sold over MSRP, period.

This is how the dealers get away with the $20 - $50k mark-ups. I am sure there will be a great deal of this going on with the SL55.

But you are correct, if you walk in the dealer, and say "I want to order a NEW CL55", then he cannot charge you more than MSRP.

Any comments? I do not want to spread any incorrect information.

awiner

It is true that MBUSA doesn't like their dealers selling NEW vehicles above MSRP. However, at least here in California, it happens and MBUSA seems to look the other way. My local dealer was charing $20,000 - $30,000 over on EVERY 2001 CL55 he received (At least 3 of them that I know of). Each time some sucker would step up (Usually the day the damn car was dropped off the truck) and pay the "Markup" to take a shiney, limited production CL55 home. I still can't quite understand nor grasp why someone would do this other than that they have more money than common sense. I took my time and shopped with dealers that didn't charge over MSRP to find mine. I was on lists for a long time. Finally my number came up... It was just a waiting game. The day I bought my car I knew that I could turn around and sell it for a $20,000+ profit.