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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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I jsut bought a CL600 (2007) and there is not a sport package even available. What gives? FOr 5600 you can get the sport package on the 550 and look waaaaay cooler than the 600. I do not understand this at all. I might take my deposit back.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 01:47 AM
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Get the Carlsson kit....they most likely do this so there is actually a reason to buy the CL63 over the CL600 IMO.
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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I could do that but that is not the point.
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 08:22 PM
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They really don't offer the sport package on the CL600? I'm surprised, especially after seeing this link.

https://mbworld.org/forums/cl-class-w216/168318-new-pix-best-than-ever.html

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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 08:37 PM
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Yeah I saw that a while back too...WTF?
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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They really don't offer the sport package on the CL600? I'm surprised, especially after seeing this link.

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=168318
That's a European car. Not offering the AMG package on the S600 and CL600 is an MBUSA marketing decision. They seem to want to reserve the AMG look of the V-12 cars for the 65s. Marketing does stuff like that. If they get convinced that they'll lose more money from people asking for their deposits back than they will in upselling to the 65s, they'll change their minds in a flash.

Personally, I'd consider the $35K or so it would take to move from a 600 Sport (if it were available) to a 65 to be a great bargain. Having an engine, brakes, suspension and seats to match the cosmetics -- priceless.
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 09:09 PM
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Agreed. The W221 CL65 will be a beauty. I suspected it was a marketing antic. But wouldn't it be to boost 63 sales, since the 600 makes more power than 63?
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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Agreed. The W221 CL65 will be a beauty. I suspected it was a marketing antic. But wouldn't it be to boost 63 sales, since the 600 makes more power than 63?
Good point. I suppose it depends on who was in the focus group. But a 600 Sport would cost more (and probably be more profitable) than an S63 so it's not clear that it would drive the decision. I also suspect there's a V12 marketing and/or product marketing team that's behind it rather than just AMG product marketing. That may be part of the problem. It might be an interesting topic to bring up on the next AMG Private Lounge chat on 12/13. I notice that in addition to Rob Allan (MBUSA Product Manager for AMG) there's also "Mr. Mark Ramsey, AMG Product manager from MBUSA." My first question is going to be what's the difference?
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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Haha, I'd love to hear an answer to that one.

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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 12:03 AM
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I would purchase the CL 600 rather than the CL 63. So what if its AMG! Bi turbo, and till now i dont trust the 63 engines. And i agree, get the carlsson or brabus kit.
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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They dont have sport pckg available for The s class on mbusa.com but i've seen few s600's with sport pacakge on ebay ?????
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those are aftermarket kits and or not sold through the factory. Trust me I bought a cl600 and the sales manager told us that there was NO sport package for 600's. total BS. I have had them in the past (sport packages on 600's) and the sport package on the cl550 looks GREAT! that is a great question to bring up to the guys @ mercedes how do I do this. I agree I could spend 50k more and get it with the engine. But that is getting a little too outrageous money wise for me. I would then consider a bentley or aston where in that price range they tend to hold thier value more.

the basic question is how can a TWIN TURBO 500+ HP V12 not warrant a sport package if that is what I desire...at least give ME the choice!
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 10:29 PM
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If I had a CL600 w/o sports package, I would most likely get a quality aftermarket body kit instead paying for the AMG kit.....more unique IMO and in some cases better looking.
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 11:37 PM
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yes I honestly worry about looking a little cheap or ghetto. had a schnitzer package on an m5 once and it was cool but came off and was annoying.

gimme a SPORT PACKAGE OPTION!
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 01:27 AM
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listen jimand7 come there and be like , LISTEN IM GOING TO GET MY DEPOSIT BACK AND GET SOME BMW OR MASERATI INSTEAD OF THe BENZ IF YOU DONT GIVE ME THE SPORTS PACKAGE lol im sure they'll get their lazy asses of THE chair and do anything for you to buy it and be mad serious about it , because 600 with sport package thats the BEST way to go =]
its goin to look so much better with it .
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 01:43 AM
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it will look something like this


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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 01:55 AM
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If you get a quality aftermarket body kit that is installed correctly, it will neither look ricey or fall off...plus it will be unique, since over the next year there will be more and more CL550 sport package cars on the road and very few custom kit ones...
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Yes, thats true. Besides ART, Carlsson and Brabus have designed a very clean looking kit.
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I also worry a bit about resale my dealer who has been doing this for 30 yrs seems to think that it will HURT resale unless I sell it myself which is annoying!
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 10:25 PM
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I also worry a bit about resale my dealer who has been doing this for 30 yrs seems to think that it will HURT resale unless I sell it myself which is annoying!
That is the reality with aftermarket - good luck getting that money spent back in resale unless u sell it yourself
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You could try a dealer in Canada since the AMG Sport Package is available for the CL here. (We ordered one with the Sport and Technology package a month ago. Should be arriving in Spring.)

http://www.mercedes-benz.ca/index.cfm?id=507
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Originally Posted by jimand7

I jsut bought a CL600 (2007) and there is not a sport package even available. What gives? FOr 5600 you can get the sport package on the 550 and look waaaaay cooler than the 600. I do not understand this at all. I might take my deposit back.
It really does not need boy-racer embellishments.

And as for after-market body kits they look so down market IMO.
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